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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4416 Posts
January 08 2023 01:45 GMT
#1281
Newcastle out to Sheffield Wednesday lul
Sucker for nostalgia
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
January 08 2023 08:25 GMT
#1282
On January 08 2023 10:45 DropBear wrote:
Newcastle out to Sheffield Wednesday lul

Yeah, apparently only the first team is good so far. More money needed I guess.
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4416 Posts
January 09 2023 02:07 GMT
#1283
Savic with the testicle twister on Ferran Torres made me angry. You just don't do that.

Why are Atletico players all such extraordinary ****s?
Sucker for nostalgia
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-01-09 14:25:25
January 09 2023 14:24 GMT
#1284
Wow Martinez really got the Portugal job!

I remember 5-6 years ago getting all excited about the Belgium golden generation. But only to be frustrated with Martinez struggling at the helm.

Now, I'm actually quite excited of Portugal's new generation of stars (Felix, Leao, Ramos, etc). And now Martinez is in charge as well... *facepalm*
gg no re thx
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4570 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-01-09 15:26:47
January 09 2023 15:26 GMT
#1285


It's golfing time



On January 09 2023 23:24 RKC wrote:
Wow Martinez really got the Portugal job!



Lol....
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warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2396 Posts
January 09 2023 16:48 GMT
#1286
Trying to look on the bright side:
- Belgium did finish 3rd in WC2018, beating Brazil and Engerland (twice!), losing to winners France. In Euro 2020 they beat us and lost to winners Italy;
- Belgium's team was way past it by 2022 and the newer generation is worse than the Bruynes, the Hazards and the Kompanys;
- Portugal doesn't have a golden generation right now - it has a constant flux of great players from world class academies in Porto, Benfica and Sporting (the latter being a notch below the other two right now imo). So it's not a "now or never" situation. We can see how he does in the Euros and change course for the next WC if needed.



sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18707 Posts
January 09 2023 16:59 GMT
#1287
Croatians golden generation is i think older than Belgium's so thats not an excuse for 2022
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
January 09 2023 18:03 GMT
#1288
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18378 Posts
January 09 2023 18:14 GMT
#1289
On January 10 2023 01:48 warding wrote:
Trying to look on the bright side:
- Belgium did finish 3rd in WC2018, beating Brazil and Engerland (twice!), losing to winners France. In Euro 2020 they beat us and lost to winners Italy;
- Belgium's team was way past it by 2022 and the newer generation is worse than the Bruynes, the Hazards and the Kompanys;
- Portugal doesn't have a golden generation right now - it has a constant flux of great players from world class academies in Porto, Benfica and Sporting (the latter being a notch below the other two right now imo). So it's not a "now or never" situation. We can see how he does in the Euros and change course for the next WC if needed.




Martinez isn't a bad coach. He just doesn't have that extra spark. His substitutions in 2018 and 2020 were weird and while Belgium did well, they didn't appear to be utilising their star players maximally. Maybe they were tired after long seasons of club football, or maybe there was something that didn't jive between them, but while Belgium did okay, it felt they could've done better. That said, maybe our feelings are wrong.
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
January 09 2023 22:49 GMT
#1290
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8912 Posts
January 10 2023 05:27 GMT
#1291
with united having rumours about internal salary caps and tightened transfer budgets, were becoming the new liverpool and chelseas ridiculous spending and mediocre performances make them the new united
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28870 Posts
January 11 2023 06:04 GMT
#1292
On December 27 2022 06:17 bObaZ wrote:
Drone, you are a specialist on the scandinavian leagues
What can you tell me about Andreas Schjelderup. Although i cant pronounce his name it looks like Benfica is closing on him for 10+6M for 80%. Is he good?


Now it seems you're also buying Casper Tengstedt from Rosenborg, for a similar sum. This guy I saw plenty of. In 14 games he scored 15 goals and had 7 assists, and few of the goals were easy, several were real beauties.

Basically in more than 30 years of following Rosenborg, he's the most dominant attacking player we've had. Pure class.

However, not a given that he'll succeed. His main strength is exceptional composure and finishing, when given enough time and space. In the Norwegian league, he got just that. In Portugal, and especially in Europe, he might end up being a tiny bit too slow. Might be that he's a smashing success - for us he was an absolute revelation and the best signing we've ever made (his price seems to have more than 10-doubled in 14 games), but even then, I think he'll need some time to adjust to the higher pace. Anyway, seems like you basically bought the best player from the Danish league - a Norwegian youngster, and the best from the Norwegian league, a Danish one.
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bObaZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Portugal864 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-01-11 10:28:14
January 11 2023 09:43 GMT
#1293
On January 11 2023 15:04 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2022 06:17 bObaZ wrote:
Drone, you are a specialist on the scandinavian leagues
What can you tell me about Andreas Schjelderup. Although i cant pronounce his name it looks like Benfica is closing on him for 10+6M for 80%. Is he good?


Now it seems you're also buying Casper Tengstedt from Rosenborg, for a similar sum. This guy I saw plenty of. In 14 games he scored 15 goals and had 7 assists, and few of the goals were easy, several were real beauties.

Basically in more than 30 years of following Rosenborg, he's the most dominant attacking player we've had. Pure class.

However, not a given that he'll succeed. His main strength is exceptional composure and finishing, when given enough time and space. In the Norwegian league, he got just that. In Portugal, and especially in Europe, he might end up being a tiny bit too slow. Might be that he's a smashing success - for us he was an absolute revelation and the best signing we've ever made (his price seems to have more than 10-doubled in 14 games), but even then, I think he'll need some time to adjust to the higher pace. Anyway, seems like you basically bought the best player from the Danish league - a Norwegian youngster, and the best from the Norwegian league, a Danish one.


Since our previous President got "removed" due to legal reasons, and Rui Costa took over, things seem to be getting different. Although I don't like Rui Costa that much, since he was like the number two for Luis Filipe Vieira, he's clearly trying to move away from the modus operandi of the previous direction.

A big percentage of our transfers ended up in the pocket of people that had no business being there. The thing that i'm liking the most is that we are getting away from Jorge Mendes. This two transfers we got from the scandinavian leagues were made, in theory, without any intermediation and without putting money on agent's pockets.

Since we got Roger Schmidt it seems that we are also trying the scandinavian market. With these two transfer the count of scandinavian players goes up to 4 this season only. We already got Alexander Bah and Fredrik Aursnes.

Aursnes is probably one of my favorite players of the team right now alongside Rafa, Enzo and António Silva.

Let's see how this goes, and if we can be the Champions League Dark horse this season.

EDIT: And in other news, what Chelsea did with Enzo was really messed up. They talked directly to him and his agent and said they would pay the release clause. The player got full of himself, and being ill advised, went to argentina for the new year and missed training. And after all that Chelsea "only" offered 85M + Zyiech (According to the rumors). I don't know if Benfica will report this behavious to FIFA/UEFA, but we should.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28870 Posts
January 11 2023 10:40 GMT
#1294
Aursnes was good in Norway, but not even close to Tengstedt-level. However, he also had a season in Feyenoord to mature and get used to a higher pace. Usually people don't go straight from a Norwegian club to a club of Benfica's level because the difference is just too big. For example, Jens Petter Hauge, who went from Bodø-Glimt to Milan, was Tengstedt-level, but he ended up first being loaned to Eintracht Frankfurt, then bought by Frankfurt, but now he's loaned from Frankfurt to Gent. Had he started out going to Netherlands or Belgium as his first stop, he could totally be playing in Bundesliga or Serie A right now.

It's basically the same story for all our current top players and top players from the past two decades. John Carew going to Valencia was probably the last guy who went straight from a Norwegian club to a top European club who wasn't somewhat of a failure. (I did defend Ødegaard's decision in the past, but that's because he was so young and he basically went to RM's B team followed by going to Netherlands and then having a reasonable progression from that point.)
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28870 Posts
January 11 2023 22:54 GMT
#1295
Southampton knocks out City in what is described as City's worst performance in the past 4-5 years. City with 0 shots on target.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9954 Posts
January 11 2023 23:00 GMT
#1296
Forest through to a semi final for the first time in 30 years.
Its going to be tough against United though.
RIP Meatloaf <3
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4416 Posts
January 12 2023 05:31 GMT
#1297
@bobaz I watched a hitc sevens video on Benfica and the disappearance of all those transfer fees, he seemed to think Rui Costa was part of the problem but this was a year ago. Things are improving under him now?
Sucker for nostalgia
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
January 12 2023 13:22 GMT
#1298
On January 10 2023 07:49 plasmidghost wrote:
Chelsea is paying an honestly ridiculous amount for João Felix's six month loan. My god. At least we're closing Mudryk and hopefully we get a new midfielder too


How certain you are in case of Mudryk? Lots of rumors and related news for the last couple of months and still nothing. In Ukraine we tend to say that he's stuck in the golden cage and Shakhtar is trying to get as much money as possible from this transfer. Mudryk is very talented, motivation won't be a problem, but he needs a strong coach in order to keep progressing. Arteta might be the one who knows how to polish young diamonds
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Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
January 12 2023 14:29 GMT
#1299
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bObaZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Portugal864 Posts
January 12 2023 16:30 GMT
#1300
On January 12 2023 14:31 DropBear wrote:
@bobaz I watched a hitc sevens video on Benfica and the disappearance of all those transfer fees, he seemed to think Rui Costa was part of the problem but this was a year ago. Things are improving under him now?


He was the theoretical number 2 behind Luis Filipe Vieira, but I think he worked more as just smoke and mirrors (because he s kinda of a Benfica legend for most of the supporters, although he didn't play here that much).

He maintained a big part of the directorial team that worked under Vieira, so I'm not fully convinced that things changed that much but at least we can see a shift in the club politics, that are much more football centric vs money centric. Which is smart because if we play good football we will also increase the value of the players.

Let's see... I'm not sure we are off the hook just yet, but things seem to be improving.
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