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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 18 2023 18:01 GMT
#2901
Does David Beckham have a secret bank account that nobody ever knew of or something?

Inter Miami are set to confirm the signing of Jordi Alba, while Lionel Messi will make his debut for the MLS club on Friday, owner Jorge Mas has said.

Alba is currently a free agent after leaving Barcelona this summer after more than a decade with the club.

The 34-year-old has been linked with a move to Saudi Arabia but Mas said that he was set to link up with former Barca team-mate Messi.

“Jordi Alba will sign today. Messi will debut on Friday,” Mas told reporters on Tuesday.


Mas has admitted that Inter Miami could make a move for another former Barcelona star in Luis Suarez but said no talks had yet been held.

Suarez’s current deal with Gremio runs until 2024.

“Luis Suarez is a Gremio player,” Mas said. “He has a contract. We understand the close relationship that he has with Lionel, Busquets and Alba. They played together at Barcelona. There’s been a lot of talk about Luis Suarez coming to Inter Miami. We haven’t held direct talks with Gremio or with Suarez.

“I don’t know how Luis Suarez can leave Gremio. But if he does we are free to talk to Luis and bring him to Inter Miami. That possibility would be there.”


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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27395 Posts
July 18 2023 22:14 GMT
#2902
On July 19 2023 02:23 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2023 15:07 sharkie wrote:
Arsenal atm has the highest value of a football squad in the world, above city now.

We still wont finish top2 next season

Will struggle for top 4 imo, good job next season top 5 will get champs league though.

Doubt it. Young squad, have strengthened where they needed additions and depth, got business done early

Stranger things have happened though!

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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7408 Posts
July 19 2023 07:02 GMT
#2903
On July 19 2023 00:18 Bacillus wrote:
In some sense I could see some Bayern players going "Whelp, we did really bad this season and still won the championship, time for a new challenge". A lot of them are probably happy collecting the paycheck and trophies and taking a shot at the UCL once a year, but I can also see that some players wanting try something else at some point of their career too.

No idea how West Ham comes into that picture, but it sure is a new challenge if that's what Goretzka desires.


It's not just Tuchel it's the whole package at Bayern that runs around like headless chickens since firing Nagelsmann with the cherry on top: Old man Hoeneß making stupid public anouncements again.

I can fully understand Goretzka wanting to leave. I cannot understand going to West Ham. He could easily play at a top 5 club since he has like the perfect player profile for the PL.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
July 19 2023 13:42 GMT
#2904
On July 19 2023 16:02 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2023 00:18 Bacillus wrote:
In some sense I could see some Bayern players going "Whelp, we did really bad this season and still won the championship, time for a new challenge". A lot of them are probably happy collecting the paycheck and trophies and taking a shot at the UCL once a year, but I can also see that some players wanting try something else at some point of their career too.

No idea how West Ham comes into that picture, but it sure is a new challenge if that's what Goretzka desires.


It's not just Tuchel it's the whole package at Bayern that runs around like headless chickens since firing Nagelsmann with the cherry on top: Old man Hoeneß making stupid public anouncements again.

Their leadership has been calm and collected since the season ended, working on their plans. The sole exception was Hoeneß going off on one of his rants. Don't really understand the "headless chicken" assessment one bit.

On July 19 2023 16:02 Harris1st wrote:
I can fully understand Goretzka wanting to leave. I cannot understand going to West Ham. He could easily play at a top 5 club since he has like the perfect player profile for the PL.

The situation with Goretzka is that Tuchel isn't a big fan and has - rightfully - revoked his starting eleven carte blanche. Goretzka doesn't want to leave at all at this point. This might change if Bayern sign a high class CDM since Tuchel is pushing for one. But Goretzka wants to fight for his spot and if he decides to leave later in the window, he's sure to aim higher than West Ham.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 19 2023 17:59 GMT
#2905
On July 19 2023 07:14 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2023 02:23 Pandemona wrote:
On July 18 2023 15:07 sharkie wrote:
Arsenal atm has the highest value of a football squad in the world, above city now.

We still wont finish top2 next season

Will struggle for top 4 imo, good job next season top 5 will get champs league though.

Doubt it. Young squad, have strengthened where they needed additions and depth, got business done early

Stranger things have happened though!


More people are watching them now though right, last season they clearly didn't care about Europa league, all be it when they did they lost to Sporitng lol, so they were playing once a week with hardly any injuries and got top top of table. Then they blew that with one injured CB? They have "strengthed" that area with a guy called Timber who might be no better than Holding, but the big thing is again there tactics will be way more scrutinised now, and people adapt to them.

Add in playing champions league they cannot rest players anymore and rotate, they will be playing harder games more frequently with more eyes drawn to them.

My biggest thing, fuck me did they have a lot of luck last season lol. You need luck to win the league no question, City and Liverpool all have it, but they had so much luck last season with VAR decisions, playing teams "at the right time", scoring last minute goals via deflections etc, some of the luck was earned but it was still a lot of swings for them which just won't happen this year.

Injuries is also a big one, Saka goes out or Odegaard goes out and they will struggle.

Might be more of a wishful thinking post by me but still, a guy at work agreed and he is Liverpool fan xD
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27395 Posts
July 19 2023 21:11 GMT
#2906
On July 20 2023 02:59 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2023 07:14 WombaT wrote:
On July 19 2023 02:23 Pandemona wrote:
On July 18 2023 15:07 sharkie wrote:
Arsenal atm has the highest value of a football squad in the world, above city now.

We still wont finish top2 next season

Will struggle for top 4 imo, good job next season top 5 will get champs league though.

Doubt it. Young squad, have strengthened where they needed additions and depth, got business done early

Stranger things have happened though!


More people are watching them now though right, last season they clearly didn't care about Europa league, all be it when they did they lost to Sporitng lol, so they were playing once a week with hardly any injuries and got top top of table. Then they blew that with one injured CB? They have "strengthed" that area with a guy called Timber who might be no better than Holding, but the big thing is again there tactics will be way more scrutinised now, and people adapt to them.

Add in playing champions league they cannot rest players anymore and rotate, they will be playing harder games more frequently with more eyes drawn to them.

My biggest thing, fuck me did they have a lot of luck last season lol. You need luck to win the league no question, City and Liverpool all have it, but they had so much luck last season with VAR decisions, playing teams "at the right time", scoring last minute goals via deflections etc, some of the luck was earned but it was still a lot of swings for them which just won't happen this year.

Injuries is also a big one, Saka goes out or Odegaard goes out and they will struggle.

Might be more of a wishful thinking post by me but still, a guy at work agreed and he is Liverpool fan xD

They were by a distance the league’s second best team

They’ve got Rice augmenting their midfield and the enigma that is Kai Havaertz, let’s see what Arteta can do there. They’ve got more defensive depth, a problem last season.

At present United is United from last season plus Mason Mount. Chelsea is a million young players

Newcastle have to March what they did last time and Liverpool have to blood a bunch of new players

I can see a few teams hating those goals but you need all of them to do so to unseat Arsenal having a spot in the CL

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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4436 Posts
July 19 2023 23:53 GMT
#2907
Xhaka leaving is going to have a bigger impact than most people seem to be talking about. Arsenal might make top 4 but I don't see them challenging for the title again
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27395 Posts
July 20 2023 00:02 GMT
#2908
Xhaka wasn’t exactly highly rated, he had a good season last, I’ve always felt he got an unduly hard time and is a decent player.

Rice is an upgrade. Who knows if Arteta can unlock the mystery box that is Kai Haavertz but if he can, that’s a hell of an asset. Let’s not forget that Jesus started very well and was a big miss for a big chunk of the season. Strengthened in depth at the back too, and they definitely suffered when Saliba got injured.

City haven’t really refreshed, they’ve won the treble, are they as up for it?

Chelsea are a big unknown quantity. United weren’t especially close to the top 2 last season and their only move so far is for Mason Mount (who is very good to be fair). Liverpool have done good business and look to be shaping up well. Are Newcastle really a top 4 team or did they strike lucky when others were misfiring?

Looks an interesting season in prospect, I’d give Arsenal and maybe Liverpool a shot in properly challenging City this season
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Oukka
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Finland1683 Posts
July 20 2023 07:32 GMT
#2909
Hendo to leave for Saudi money as well. It really makes me think of the old times of MLS and the few years of Chinese super league when players with their best years already behind them would still find their best paychecks ahead of them.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/jul/19/liverpool-jordan-henderson-al-ettifaq-12m-saudi-arabia
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mathenalin
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom120 Posts
July 20 2023 08:36 GMT
#2910
On July 20 2023 09:02 WombaT wrote:
Xhaka wasn’t exactly highly rated, he had a good season last, I’ve always felt he got an unduly hard time and is a decent player.

Rice is an upgrade. Who knows if Arteta can unlock the mystery box that is Kai Haavertz but if he can, that’s a hell of an asset. Let’s not forget that Jesus started very well and was a big miss for a big chunk of the season. Strengthened in depth at the back too, and they definitely suffered when Saliba got injured.

City haven’t really refreshed, they’ve won the treble, are they as up for it?

Chelsea are a big unknown quantity. United weren’t especially close to the top 2 last season and their only move so far is for Mason Mount (who is very good to be fair). Liverpool have done good business and look to be shaping up well. Are Newcastle really a top 4 team or did they strike lucky when others were misfiring?

Looks an interesting season in prospect, I’d give Arsenal and maybe Liverpool a shot in properly challenging City this season


I agree that it will be an interesting season. There are some intriguing questions which you've identified.
Can Haaland have another season like last year or will there be some regression to a more "normal" stat line?

My personal prediction is that Chelsea, Liverpool and Man U will be better than last year. Arsenal and Newcastle will be worse. Man City will probably not win a Treble but still good enough to win the title. I can see any iteration of the top 5 teams being plausible.

For me personally I'm excited to see what Maddison can do at Newcastle, he's been one of my favorite players for a long time but injuries and Leicester's issues sort of limited him. With Newcastle being a real team now and hopefully enjoying a lot of possession there is real potential for him to take over games.

The Saudi league stuff is just sad to me but I can't blame the older players taking the ridiculous contracts to play in an easy league.

Biggest upset for me is no Bellingham in the PL. Would be fun to watch him every week.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8926 Posts
July 20 2023 09:00 GMT
#2911
james maddison went to tottenham mate
mathenalin
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom120 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-20 09:46:27
July 20 2023 09:44 GMT
#2912
On July 20 2023 18:00 evilfatsh1t wrote:
james maddison went to tottenham mate


oh yeh. No idea why I thought he went to Newcastle.

well wherever he goes , I hope he does good.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 20 2023 14:47 GMT
#2913
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27395 Posts
July 20 2023 16:00 GMT
#2914
On July 20 2023 16:32 Oukka wrote:
Hendo to leave for Saudi money as well. It really makes me think of the old times of MLS and the few years of Chinese super league when players with their best years already behind them would still find their best paychecks ahead of them.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/jul/19/liverpool-jordan-henderson-al-ettifaq-12m-saudi-arabia

Oscar leaving European football was a crime he had a ton of talent. But most of China’s moves were for the past-its or never-had-its (at the very top level)

I care less about the players on the downswing but there’s some real talent getting snapped up that’s still at their peaks, or close to it. Milinkovic-Savic, Brozovic are pretty big losses to Serie A and especially their previous teams. Ruben Neves is another that really should be playing in Europe
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10564 Posts
July 20 2023 16:02 GMT
#2915
On July 20 2023 09:02 WombaT wrote:
Xhaka wasn’t exactly highly rated, he had a good season last, I’ve always felt he got an unduly hard time and is a decent player.

Rice is an upgrade. Who knows if Arteta can unlock the mystery box that is Kai Haavertz but if he can, that’s a hell of an asset. Let’s not forget that Jesus started very well and was a big miss for a big chunk of the season. Strengthened in depth at the back too, and they definitely suffered when Saliba got injured.

City haven’t really refreshed, they’ve won the treble, are they as up for it?

Chelsea are a big unknown quantity. United weren’t especially close to the top 2 last season and their only move so far is for Mason Mount (who is very good to be fair). Liverpool have done good business and look to be shaping up well. Are Newcastle really a top 4 team or did they strike lucky when others were misfiring?

Looks an interesting season in prospect, I’d give Arsenal and maybe Liverpool a shot in properly challenging City this season

I know that it's just a friendly and we're not playing our starting XI, but Liverpool's right is still a gapping hole in defense, even after moving TAA to the 6 in the friendly. We desperately need to sign at least 2 more defenders, one RB and one CB/LB. Our offense is very strong but we're a glass cannon right now and Allison can only do so much as GK with our defense looking like swiss cheese. For sure we're good enough for CL next year but top 3 is still gonna be tough.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-20 16:21:50
July 20 2023 16:21 GMT
#2916
On July 20 2023 06:11 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2023 02:59 Pandemona wrote:
On July 19 2023 07:14 WombaT wrote:
On July 19 2023 02:23 Pandemona wrote:
On July 18 2023 15:07 sharkie wrote:
Arsenal atm has the highest value of a football squad in the world, above city now.

We still wont finish top2 next season

Will struggle for top 4 imo, good job next season top 5 will get champs league though.

Doubt it. Young squad, have strengthened where they needed additions and depth, got business done early

Stranger things have happened though!


More people are watching them now though right, last season they clearly didn't care about Europa league, all be it when they did they lost to Sporitng lol, so they were playing once a week with hardly any injuries and got top top of table. Then they blew that with one injured CB? They have "strengthed" that area with a guy called Timber who might be no better than Holding, but the big thing is again there tactics will be way more scrutinised now, and people adapt to them.

Add in playing champions league they cannot rest players anymore and rotate, they will be playing harder games more frequently with more eyes drawn to them.

My biggest thing, fuck me did they have a lot of luck last season lol. You need luck to win the league no question, City and Liverpool all have it, but they had so much luck last season with VAR decisions, playing teams "at the right time", scoring last minute goals via deflections etc, some of the luck was earned but it was still a lot of swings for them which just won't happen this year.

Injuries is also a big one, Saka goes out or Odegaard goes out and they will struggle.

Might be more of a wishful thinking post by me but still, a guy at work agreed and he is Liverpool fan xD

They were by a distance the league’s second best team

They’ve got Rice augmenting their midfield and the enigma that is Kai Havaertz, let’s see what Arteta can do there. They’ve got more defensive depth, a problem last season.

At present United is United from last season plus Mason Mount. Chelsea is a million young players

Newcastle have to March what they did last time and Liverpool have to blood a bunch of new players

I can see a few teams hating those goals but you need all of them to do so to unseat Arsenal having a spot in the CL


You are probably right and rationally speaking it makes sense, i just still feel like these players they have overachieved a lot and Arteta isn't some tactical god that is perceived, we will of course find out and now they have spent a lot of money on the "Missing pieces" so lets see.

Yanited btw imo, are a midfielder and striker away from really competing for the league.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27395 Posts
July 20 2023 19:17 GMT
#2917
On July 21 2023 01:21 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2023 06:11 WombaT wrote:
On July 20 2023 02:59 Pandemona wrote:
On July 19 2023 07:14 WombaT wrote:
On July 19 2023 02:23 Pandemona wrote:
On July 18 2023 15:07 sharkie wrote:
Arsenal atm has the highest value of a football squad in the world, above city now.

We still wont finish top2 next season

Will struggle for top 4 imo, good job next season top 5 will get champs league though.

Doubt it. Young squad, have strengthened where they needed additions and depth, got business done early

Stranger things have happened though!


More people are watching them now though right, last season they clearly didn't care about Europa league, all be it when they did they lost to Sporitng lol, so they were playing once a week with hardly any injuries and got top top of table. Then they blew that with one injured CB? They have "strengthed" that area with a guy called Timber who might be no better than Holding, but the big thing is again there tactics will be way more scrutinised now, and people adapt to them.

Add in playing champions league they cannot rest players anymore and rotate, they will be playing harder games more frequently with more eyes drawn to them.

My biggest thing, fuck me did they have a lot of luck last season lol. You need luck to win the league no question, City and Liverpool all have it, but they had so much luck last season with VAR decisions, playing teams "at the right time", scoring last minute goals via deflections etc, some of the luck was earned but it was still a lot of swings for them which just won't happen this year.

Injuries is also a big one, Saka goes out or Odegaard goes out and they will struggle.

Might be more of a wishful thinking post by me but still, a guy at work agreed and he is Liverpool fan xD

They were by a distance the league’s second best team

They’ve got Rice augmenting their midfield and the enigma that is Kai Havaertz, let’s see what Arteta can do there. They’ve got more defensive depth, a problem last season.

At present United is United from last season plus Mason Mount. Chelsea is a million young players

Newcastle have to March what they did last time and Liverpool have to blood a bunch of new players

I can see a few teams hating those goals but you need all of them to do so to unseat Arsenal having a spot in the CL


You are probably right and rationally speaking it makes sense, i just still feel like these players they have overachieved a lot and Arteta isn't some tactical god that is perceived, we will of course find out and now they have spent a lot of money on the "Missing pieces" so lets see.

Yanited btw imo, are a midfielder and striker away from really competing for the league.

Odegaard and Saka are phenomenal players who Arsenal got cheap, the former through smart business, the latter via academy. Martinelli is quality too

Jesus is excellent and if I was feeling uncharitable I’d rub that in with certain posters on this thread

Defence is solid, keeper is solid, Partey is quality

Why Arsenal were so good last season was they had a way of playing and they executed it most weeks. They’ve still got that except upgrades in personnel

City - Won the lot, no reinforcements, may lose some players will the hunger be there? It could be obviously

United - Starting to take shape. Mount’s a good player. Don’t have a true number 9 yet. Arsenal are currently a better squad

Chelsea - Fucking shitshow season, super ridiculous squad that’s finally being pared down to sensible. IMO Poch is a fantastic appointment as he does his best work with hungry young players who maybe haven’t done a huge amount, so I think there’s potential for a huge improvement, but whether that comes.

Liverpool - Very promising moves, I think they’ll be extremely competitive

Newcastle - Good squad well-coached but realistically are they top 4 because a large proportion of the traditional occupants misfired?

Spurs - Fuck off. (My brother’s words not mine, he supports them!)



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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 20 2023 19:21 GMT
#2918
Jesus Christ lol

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
July 20 2023 19:37 GMT
#2919
I would recommend shrinking the field size a bit, so the old gentlemen wont get exhausted as quick. This reminds me of the good old indoor tournaments with players during the winter off season where the former great get to kick it again for the fans. Oh those were great times.
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
July 20 2023 20:22 GMT
#2920
because they run too much. players should focus more on precise passes.
too many players prefers to run 30meter then a 10m pass instead of a 40meter pass.

If there should be change on pitch, I go with 10 vs 10.
pitch, goals and penalty area/sizes are fine.
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