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evilfatsh1t
Australia8931 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8931 Posts
and sneirac im not sure what youre implying. dangerous play is no longer actionable unless its "serious foul play"? im actually done now. | ||
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sneirac
Germany3464 Posts
I wrote that already and then quoted myself again. Dangerous play: yellow card Serious foul play: red card An overhead kick is allowed unless an opponent is endangered because there isn't enough space. If an opponent is endangered/hit it dangerous play, a yellow card. | ||
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Skynx
Turkey7150 Posts
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28911 Posts
Evilfatsh1t, have you ever touched the studs of a proper football shoe? | ||
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28911 Posts
On September 18 2017 18:13 evilfatsh1t wrote: oh dear pande..... and sneirac im not sure what youre implying. dangerous play is no longer actionable unless its "serious foul play"? im actually done now. It's totally actionable. A free kick and a yellow card were given. Is 'red card' the only way a referee can 'action' something to you? | ||
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Dante08
Singapore4200 Posts
On September 18 2017 17:51 evilfatsh1t wrote: "So on that manner, its always going to be a foul so you should never be putting your foot up on a 50-50 aka when the ball is in the air and another player is coming to you. It would solve all these issues if they just clarified that publicly the referee association or whatever. For me i would give a red card to any attempt at ball in a 50-50 (aka 2 players going for same ball) where the boot is above the waist line regardless of contact." heres what you wrote buddy. lets try some basic reading comprehension. who can find the words "face on" in the above extract? $100 for the winner. what i do see is "another player is coming to you", which describes kos in that incident. i also see "2 players going for the same ball" which also describes luiz and kos. also i see "red card.....where the boot is above waist line regardless of contact". yet somehow it doesnt apply to luiz even he did make contact because hes a chelsea player. this is exactly what ive been saying by spectators being inconsistent and creating narratives to justify decisions. it matters because playing vs 10 men for longer than 5 mins is what might have made that small difference which allows arsenal to put a goal in your net I think you are focusing too much on the interpretation the rules. Yes they might fall under the same category but they are 2 completely different tackles. One was a bicycle kick which was dangerous but did not really cause serious damage to the player whereas the other resulted in stitches on the player's face. Again I emphasize on studs because as Liquid'Drone pointed out, I much rather take 10 bicycle kicks to the face than Mane's stud kick. You are comparing 2 totally different challenges even though they fall under the same category. I can see where you're coming from if Mane did a bicycle kick and got sent off while Luiz only got a yellow card, or if someone does a tackle similar to Mane and got away with a yellow card. This is where the referees's discretion comes into play to judge whether the tackle was indeed a red card or not, and I think most referees would have sent Mane off as well. Also, I don't see how people can dispute Mane getting a red card. He obviously knew the keeper was coming. Think about it, would you leap for a ball like that if no one was in front of you? He made a reckless move, caused a pretty bad injury (which could have been much worse) and got a red card. I don't see how people can argue that especially if you look at it again in slo-mo. Also I think it's perfectly logical to give yellow/red depending on whether you injure someone as nayumi pointed out earlier. | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On September 18 2017 17:43 evilfatsh1t wrote: i wanted rules to be enforced at ref's discretion, not to the letter. i honestly dont care that luiz wasnt fouled for the kick, in fact i welcome it. i only brought it up because i found the double standards in this forum hilarious when everyone enforces the rule to the letter when it was for mane, yet luiz's incident falls under the EXACT same category (note. the high boot rule doesnt explicitly make exceptions for overhead kicks) and no one says a word about the injustice. whatever, unless someone else comes along and provides a good argument theres no point discussing any further. i quoted pande on his opinion regarding high boots and he is so disgustingly obviously going against his own word whilst trying to create a technicality, and sneirac is saying the rule was enforced correctly because it wasnt dangerous play when there was actual contact at head height. ok bros and i havent seen the matt richie incident because i dont watch every pl game. On September 11 2017 22:44 Rebs wrote: I reckon there is always plenty of room for appropriately interpreting the rules. I disagree that there needs to be consistency on high boots in general because as some apologist rightly mentioned you dont want to discourage people expressing themselves. ]But in a contested situation if you raise your boot and hit someone you gotta live with getting penalized. But a flying kick in the face is a flying kick in the face. There isnt much to discuss there. Thats why the rule exists and is not stupid. Im just going to point out, this "letter of the law" argument was not made by everyone. Unless you count like 2 people who did so. It was so obvious to me that something like the Luiz incident would happen and the whole "what about this then argument" would come flying out all guns blazing. Luiz got the appropriate punishment for his challenge.. Also Matt Richie shoulda got a red.. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Bacillus
Finland2117 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Hummels again on a free, they just do good business on top talent. Minus Renato Sanches who looks like he needs time is the only massive failings with money they have made to my knowledge? | ||
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hootsushi
Germany3468 Posts
On September 19 2017 04:24 Bacillus wrote: In some ways that speaks more about how conservative Bayern are with their transfers. They still haven't made a single 40 million transfer. Tolisso was 41 Million Euro, but your point is still valid | ||
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
On September 19 2017 08:41 nayumi wrote: Munich got pretty much the entire country to grow/spot talents for them which they can just do a side deal with the players and get them when their contracts expire for almost next to nothing. Yep. And their squad is deep enough that they're totally fine with waiting for the contract to expire. | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On September 19 2017 09:16 DucK- wrote: Yep. And their squad is deep enough that they're totally fine with waiting for the contract to expire. Yeah but PSG is in a position to do the same thing but they still manage to somehow spend over 500 million so you gotta give credit to Bayern for that. Its not like other teams cant swoop in for those players either. So there is something in the koolaid that makes those players want to go there. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18762 Posts
On September 19 2017 10:48 Rebs wrote: Yeah but PSG is in a position to do the same thing but they still manage to somehow spend over 500 million so you gotta give credit to Bayern for that. Its not like other teams cant swoop in for those players either. So there is something in the koolaid that makes those players want to go there. Yes, the koolaid being that Bayern are the only world class German club. PSG is not on the same level as Bayern internationally. | ||
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Greg_J
China4409 Posts
Everton losing Lukaku looks to have been a much larger loss to them than perhaps people where expecting. He gave the team so much not just goals. That stat about Munchen never paying more than 40 million for a player is really impressive if it's true. Makes the English teams look pretty foolish in contrast but it's not a simple comparison. Arsenals performance was good and they should have won. Not sure what would piss off their fans the most. The fact they didn’t get the result or the fact that they are clearly not a bad squad and can switch it on every now and then. Implies their just lazy and unmotivated rather than not good enough. Exeter City won again. Still top of the League no motivation problems down in Dazzling Devon. | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
On September 19 2017 10:48 Rebs wrote: Yeah but PSG is in a position to do the same thing but they still manage to somehow spend over 500 million so you gotta give credit to Bayern for that. Its not like other teams cant swoop in for those players either. So there is something in the koolaid that makes those players want to go there. PSG was a mediocre club that had to spend loads of money to become relevant, just like my team Chelsea. Unlike us though, they don't appear to want to stop spending. Almost like a vanity project for the owners. Moreover after spending so much year on year, they still struggle to achieve anything relevant in Europe and can't even win their own league last season. When they don't have enough success, I guess the way for them is to continue spending. | ||
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