EPTNFL 2014 Season - Page 5
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DannyJ
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c0ldfusion
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AgentW
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LeeDawg
United States1306 Posts
On March 05 2014 11:25 Shotcoder wrote: Jets fan, hating on Pennington...does not compute? Who Next? Curtis Martin? I'm definitely not hating, since Pennington was one of my favorite Jets when I was growing up. I'm just saying he was being compared to Joe Montana when he had started only a few games. He had a similar play style, but his results? Not even close... And if there was a next, It'd be Joe Namath for sure. I've never seen a player in any sport be considered a great because of one game. his numbers were terrible throughout his career. He only had 2 seasons with more TDs than INTs, a career passer rating of 65.5, made the playoffs twice, which were his only winning seasons, and his record as a starter is a tick below .500 I get why he's in the HoF, since that one Super Bowl win was so influential and unexpected, but he was more of a superstar personality/icon than a superstar player. | ||
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c0ldfusion
United States8293 Posts
On March 06 2014 05:35 AgentW wrote: Everyone goes for 2 because it's a point expectancy of about 0.96 versus a point expectancy of like 0.90 from the kick. Is that based on actual data or are you just making it up? Even if that's true, there's still variance to be considered. You're not always gonna try to max expected value. | ||
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Aveng3r
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AgentW
United States7725 Posts
On March 06 2014 22:58 c0ldfusion wrote: Is that based on actual data or are you just making it up? Even if that's true, there's still variance to be considered. You're not always gonna try to max expected value. That's about right, but I was a tad off from memory. It's about a 48% conversion rate on 2 PT attempts (hence 0.96 point expectancy) whereas a 42 yard FG attempt hits about 85% of the time, which generates a 0.85 point expectancy. | ||
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Otolia
France5805 Posts
On March 06 2014 23:59 AgentW wrote: That's about right, but I was a tad off from memory. It's about a 48% conversion rate on 2 PT attempts (hence 0.96 point expectancy) whereas a 42 yard FG attempt hits about 85% of the time, which generates a 0.85 point expectancy. Except a kick a a independent event, whereas the 2 PT conversion is not (because the decision to go for 2 is often dictated by a dire situation) | ||
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Dogfoodboy16
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AgentW
United States7725 Posts
On March 07 2014 03:40 Otolia wrote: Except a kick a a independent event, whereas the 2 PT conversion is not (because the decision to go for 2 is often dictated by a dire situation) I don't see how that makes it a dependent event. Sure the sample size is smaller, but I don't think it makes much of a difference. On March 07 2014 03:41 Dogfoodboy16 wrote: so is Incognito gonna be back on the Dolphins or what? Absolutely not. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17411 Posts
On March 06 2014 01:03 AgentW wrote: As a Bills fan, I agree with all points. it'll be a cryin' shame if the team moves away from Buffalo. my hope is... Ralph Wilson becomes the first human in modern history to live to age 200. | ||
GTR
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Sermokala
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GTR
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QuanticHawk
United States32130 Posts
On March 07 2014 16:19 GTR wrote: On Clowney: Another reason for his dip in production was that teams were scheming specifically for him with double-teams etc. Can't get away with that in the NFL. yeah i think that was part too, and he also had injuries and some illness early on. i think it was also pretty evident the dude was not going at 100% to not get injured all things considered, i still think he's one of the most compelling picks in recent years. | ||
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LeeDawg
United States1306 Posts
On March 08 2014 00:02 QuanticHawk wrote: yeah i think that was part too, and he also had injuries and some illness early on. i think it was also pretty evident the dude was not going at 100% to not get injured all things considered, i still think he's one of the most compelling picks in recent years. He's definitely a huge boom or bust candidate with a lot of scrutiny around him, I just wouldn't pick him... | ||
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c0ldfusion
United States8293 Posts
On March 08 2014 03:38 LeeDawg wrote: He's definitely a huge boom or bust candidate with a lot of scrutiny around him, I just wouldn't pick him... I think your perception comes from busts and stars being more memorable. Flat out busts are still relatively rare in the 1st round. He could very well have an average career. | ||
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LeeDawg
United States1306 Posts
On March 08 2014 03:51 c0ldfusion wrote: I think your perception comes from busts and stars being more memorable. Flat out busts are still relatively rare in the 1st round. He could very well have an average career. very possible, but with all the hype, wouldn't an average career be at least disappointing? and being a disappointment after being picked in the top 5, where he's projected, usually means you're a bust. not a major one, though. I suppose it depends on your definition of 'bust' | ||
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AgentW
United States7725 Posts
IDK who I was discussing this with but it was someone in this thread. Interesting discussion. | ||
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iNcontroL
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