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Steveling

Greece10806 Posts

November 28 2013 13:42 GMT

#1281

On November 28 2013 21:57 RvB wrote:

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Spanish is a global language as well and they're still not close to the BPL.

Spanish is not that universal as English but either way the most watched match every year is the clasico.

haitike

Spain2716 Posts

November 28 2013 15:09 GMT

#1282

I think that the language argument for popularity is bullshit, no offense.

In the 90s Serie A was considered the most popular and important league, and italian has few speakers.

Ferrose

United States11378 Posts

November 28 2013 15:42 GMT

#1283

UEFA Europa League - Matchday 5

Group A

20:05 GMT (+00:00) Swansea City AFC vs Valencia CF
17:00 GMT (+00:00) FC Kuban Krasnodar vs FC St. Gallen

Group B

20:05 GMT (+00:00) PFC Ludogorets Razgrad vs PSV Eindhoven
20:05 GMT (+00:00) FC Chornomorets Odesa vs GNK Dinamo Zagreb

Group C

20:05 GMT (+00:00) Esbjerg fB vs Royal Standard de Liège
20:05 GMT (+00:00) IF Elfsborg vs FC Red Bull Salzburg

Group D

17:00 GMT (+00:00) FC Rubin Kazan vs NK Maribor
20:05 GMT (+00:00) Wigan Athletic FC vs SV Zulte Waregem

Group E

20:05 GMT (+00:00) FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk vs CS Pandurii Târgu Jiu
20:05 GMT (+00:00) FC Paços de Ferreira vs ACF Fiorentina

Group F

20:05 GMT (+00:00) APOEL FC vs Maccabi Tel-Aviv FC
20:05 GMT (+00:00) FC Girondins de Bordeaux vs Eintracht Frankfurt

Group G

18:00 GMT (+00:00) SK Rapid Wien vs FC Thun
18:00 GMT (+00:00) KRC Genk vs FC Dynamo Kyiv

Group H

18:00 GMT (+00:00) Sevilla FC vs GD Estoril Praia
18:00 GMT (+00:00) FC Slovan Liberec vs SC Freiburg

Group I

18:00 GMT (+00:00) HNK Rijeka vs Vitória de Guimarães
18:00 GMT (+00:00) Olympique Lyonnais vs Real Betis Balompié

Group J

18:00 GMT (+00:00) Legia Warszawa vs SS Lazio
18:00 GMT (+00:00) Trabzonspor AŞ vs Apollon Limassol FC

Group K

18:00 GMT (+00:00) Tromsø IL vs Tottenham Hotspur FC
17:00 GMT (+00:00) FC Anji Makhachkala vs FC Sheriff

Group L

18:00 GMT (+00:00) AZ Alkmaar vs Maccabi Haifa FC
15:00 GMT (+00:00) FC Shakhter Karagandy vs PAOK FC

Ferrose

United States11378 Posts

November 28 2013 15:50 GMT

#1284

On November 28 2013 17:59 Malinor wrote:
I cannot get over what Leverkusen showed us yesterday. OIf course the team can clearly play much better, but this really has to be a mentallity thing - for years and years, as soon as they play an international team with a big name, they just let themselves get destroyed. And it is not only because the other team is a bit better, they just stand by and watch the other team play football, they don't fight back.
The game vs ManU demonstrated why this team is not going to win anything (besides maybe a German Cup once in a while). It sounds so clichée but they simply don't have a winning mentallity. I don't even know why I should root for them to get to the Ro16 - they would just get destroyed anyway.

My consolation is that I think they are more like the forth best team in Germany. Dortmund is clearly better and I think even Schalke would be much better - but they have to deal with lots of injuries, a not very good coach and an even worse front office (I still cannot comprehend why they fired Stevens). But if everyone was healthy, the team would be very strong regardless.

Anyway, yesterday's performance is just inexcusable and I haven't felt so strongly about a football game in forever. This game really puts the Bundesliga in a bad light. I hope they feel the shame.
There is a very real possibility that only one german team makes it through to the Ro16... hopefully Dortmund won't let that happen, but I don't have much trust in the other two teams anymore. Basel just looks stronger than Schalke and Leverkusen winning in Spain... I don't think that is going to happen.

Leverkusen's defending was just...I can't even think of a word to properly describe it. Even from the opening kickoff they laid down and let United boss them around like a second division side would.

My favorite goal from yesterday. That was unreal.

RvB

Netherlands6240 Posts

November 28 2013 16:13 GMT

#1285

On November 28 2013 22:42 Steveling wrote:

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Spanish is not that universal as English but either way the most watched match every year is the clasico.

That's true but Spanish is spoken on a whole continent (except Brazil) which is as football crazy as Europe. I'm sure English being a universal language is an advantage but I don't see it as more than that.

Ysellian

Netherlands9029 Posts

November 28 2013 16:49 GMT

#1286

On November 29 2013 00:09 haitike wrote:
I think that the language argument for popularity is bullshit, no offense.

In the 90s Serie A was considered the most popular and important league, and italian has few speakers.

True, I actually remember reading that at the start of the EPL the most watched game was 2 million people world wide, while the most watched Serie A game was 2 million people in the UK alone. The serie A has really fallen over the years.

Stratos_speAr

United States6959 Posts

November 28 2013 16:58 GMT

#1287

On November 29 2013 01:13 RvB wrote:

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Language is an advantage. It's not the dealbreaker. The dealbreaker is the absurd amount of money that moves through the English league.

warding

Portugal2394 Posts

November 28 2013 18:00 GMT

#1288

On November 29 2013 01:58 Stratos_speAr wrote:

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Language is an advantage. It's not the dealbreaker. The dealbreaker is the absurd amount of money that moves through the English league.

Is the insane amount of money in the PL a cause or an effect? If it's a cause, then what caused it in the first place? Was it Abramovic's acquisition of Chelsea?

3point14

Germany890 Posts

November 28 2013 18:31 GMT

#1289

and all that while England is also busy playing and watching and spending money on rugby.
theres not much else than football in Germany.

Mensol

14536 Posts

November 28 2013 18:44 GMT

#1290

Top 5 premier league teams would've scored tromso already.

i really dislike tottenham :<

city42

1656 Posts

November 28 2013 18:54 GMT

#1291

On November 29 2013 03:44 Mensol wrote:
Top 5 premier league teams would've scored tromso already.

i really dislike tottenham :<

It could be worse...at least they weren't run off the pitch by 10 man Real Madrid in a must-win game. That would just be embarrassing.

BeaTeR

Kazakhstan4130 Posts

November 28 2013 19:00 GMT

#1292

On November 29 2013 03:44 Mensol wrote:
Top 5 premier league teams would've scored tromso already.

i really dislike tottenham :<

they are fucking up my accumulators

Mensol

14536 Posts

November 28 2013 19:11 GMT

#1293

On November 29 2013 03:54 city42 wrote:

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It could be worse...at least they weren't run off the pitch by 10 man Real Madrid in a must-win game. That would just be embarrassing.

Nothing is worse than spending 100 million and still having hard time against low level teams.

im not even talking about 6-0 because its just embarrassing.

city42

1656 Posts

November 28 2013 19:20 GMT

#1294

On November 29 2013 04:11 Mensol wrote:

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Nothing is worse than spending 100 million and still having hard time against low level teams.

im not even talking about 6-0 because its just embarrassing.

Who spent 100 million? Spurs made a profit in the transfer window. They have had no transfer budget for 3 years and have to sell in order to buy. Don't talk about things you don't understand.

Ferrose

United States11378 Posts

November 28 2013 19:42 GMT

#1295

Looks like Freiburg are actually going to win a game. And Francis Coquelin got a goal