EPT2013-2014 Champions League & Europa League Thread - Page 63
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
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sharkie
Austria18751 Posts
On November 28 2013 06:21 RvB wrote: The BPL has more money available than the Bundesliga. ANd they just buy all the good players from somewhere else. Even without the loans there's still a lot more money involved in the BPL than any other league. Yes I know but I think his question is how come the PL got so big? | ||
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Twoflowers
Germany241 Posts
On November 28 2013 06:19 3point14 wrote: but hows England creating such strong teams and players? its smaller than germany, and from what I know not really more wealthy. The premier league has much deeper pockets than the Bundesliga. The international viewership is simply much bigger and the teams have wealthier investors. You can see the difference in population etc. when their national teams compete. Englands squad can't hold a candle to the german national team. Btw, Leverkusen is infamous for failing against established 'big' international teams. München would probably beat ManU and bayer is able to draw against them... | ||
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wingpawn
Poland1342 Posts
FINAL EDIT: 36 goals in 8 matches; that's exactly 4,5 goals per game today. CL, do you ever defend? | ||
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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
Seems like the defending in the Bundesliga is worse than in the Premier League too. And it's reflected in the national team. | ||
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WerderBremen
Germany1070 Posts
On November 28 2013 06:21 RvB wrote: The BPL has more money available than the Bundesliga. ANd they just buy all the good players from somewhere else. Even without the loans there's still a lot more money involved in the BPL than any other league. Just to give a few reasons, like the structure in ownerships (50+1 rule). Taken from an article: "Arsenal charging them £62 to attend their League fixture at Emirates Stadium last month. In contrast, the average price to watch a Bundesliga match is £19.55. It also comes with the promise of free travel on public transport within a significant distance from the ground." While the Bundesliga have a lot to be happy about, the Premier League’s mammoth new TV deal is giving them cause for concern. Starting from next season, English clubs will share a pot in excess of £5billion between them until 2017. Early estimates suggest the club who finish bottom will receive £61million while the winners will bank around £100m. It is in stark contrast to Germany where champions elect Bayern Munich are expected to earn €38m (£32.7m) this season. “It’s a problem,” Borussia Dortmund chief executive Hans-Joachim Watzke admitted. “The only area we can’t compete in is television. The other things we can certainly do a good job. link PL definetly >>> BL | ||
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
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sharkie
Austria18751 Posts
How the heck can a manager be so blind? | ||
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Micro_Jackson
Germany2002 Posts
On November 28 2013 06:26 Twoflowers wrote: The premier league has much deeper pockets than the Bundesliga. The international viewership is simply much bigger and the teams have wealthier investors. You can see the difference in population etc. when their national teams compete. Englands squad can't hold a candle to the german national team. Btw, Leverkusen is infamous for failing against established 'big' international teams. München would probably beat ManU and bayer is able to draw against them... TV Money for the next 3 years: German League: 1,72 Billion Premier League: 6,29 Billion Also the German system is way more "social" which means that everyone gets his share were in England and Spain the top clubs get way more then the mid or bottom clubs. I don´t even talk about depts or ManCity... To be honest its almost pathetic thaht the PL is so bad international with so much more money. | ||
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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
On November 28 2013 06:34 Steveling wrote: Nooo, cavani strikes in the 89th minute to give the win to PSG. Benfica ended up winning too. City 4-2 Plzen. Does this mean Plzen are better than Spurs? :p | ||
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
Oh that's good, Anderlecht are now officially out of business and will come to Athens just for tourism, lol. | ||
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Twoflowers
Germany241 Posts
On November 28 2013 06:39 USvBleakill wrote: TV Money for the next 3 years: German League: 1,72 Billion Premier League: 6,29 Billion Also the German system is way more "social" which means that everyone gets his share were in England and Spain the top clubs get way more then the mid or bottom clubs. I don´t even talk about depts or ManCity... To be honest its almost pathetic thaht the PL is so bad international with so much more money. Even the lowest club of the PL gets more money from the TV-rights than the top of the Bundesliga. The bottom of La Liga is fucked though, as far as I remember Barca and Real set up their own deals, leaving the rest with the scraps. | ||
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TheDWorm
Germany69 Posts
On November 28 2013 06:35 sharkie wrote: Manchester United play so so so much better with Kagawa than without. How the heck can a manager be so blind? Mabye they should have asked Klopp. And in regards of the Bundesliga vs EPL discussion i personally think that the important factor in the last decades was the competition (in favor of EPL). In Germany we have the same situation for years - no matter who is the attacking team (Bremen, Leverkusen, Schalke, Dortmund, Gladbach,...) - Bayern has got such an extrem financial advantage that they easy can change situations with just some transfers while the contender needs to have extrem good scouting/signings to even stay at the same level. | ||
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mavignon
France369 Posts
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Twoflowers
Germany241 Posts
On November 28 2013 06:51 TheDWorm wrote: Mabye they should have asked Klopp. And in regards of the Bundesliga vs EPL discussion i personally think that the important factor in the last decades was the competition (in favor of EPL). In Germany we have the same situation for years - no matter who is the attacking team (Bremen, Leverkusen, Schalke, Dortmund, Gladbach,...) - Bayern has got such an extrem financial advantage that they easy can change situations with just some transfers while the contender needs to have extrem good scouting/signings to even stay at the same level. As long as Bayern stays in tip top international shape at least we get the points necessar to secure our CL-spots and the money that goes with them. Bayern maybe the dominating force in the bundeliga, but that domination has some benefits. | ||
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warding
Portugal2397 Posts
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TheDWorm
Germany69 Posts
On November 28 2013 07:03 Twoflowers wrote: As long as Bayern stays in tip top international shape at least we get the points necessar to secure our CL-spots and the money that goes with them. Bayern maybe the dominating force in the bundeliga, but that domination has some benefits. But also takes away much potential (in regard of developing teams - replacing players) for the rest. Take the BL matches - they are boring why should someone offer the same (or almost the same) money for BL as for EPL where the top matches are not so onesided as in Germany (fe. see the matches in the last years from schalke, leverkusen against Bayern). And lets be honest noone (excluding the team fans) wants to see onesided matches. Edit: that sounds like im blaming bayern for being to good but what i mean is that the BL needs to secure ways for other teams to develop to the top level without making bayern worst cuz at mom its too hard (if not impossible) for any team to keep a positive trend over some years going. | ||
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Akka
France291 Posts
 Verratti almost screwed us up by getting a red card, but in the end Cavani saved the day. Paris had >70% possession at the half if I remember correctly. | ||
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
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Maenander
Germany4927 Posts
That was a typical Leverkusen performance against the "big guys". Just remember the 0-7 against Barca lol. That team has a fragile spirit. On November 28 2013 06:22 wingpawn wrote: England has best football culture in the world, period. Oh, and EPLs wealth comes from Russia, USA and United Arab Emirates, lol. English is the global language, that's the PL's biggest advantage. The Spanish, Italian and German football cultures aren't worse in any way. People tend to underestimate the power of language. | ||
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