EPTIt's hilarious that north euros blame spanish teams for overspending when their societies suffer from even bigger corruption levels.
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
It's hilarious that north euros blame spanish teams for overspending when their societies suffer from even bigger corruption levels. | ||
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Kleinmuuhg
Vanuatu4091 Posts
On August 01 2013 23:54 Steveling wrote: Meanwhile bayerns president Uli Hoeness was charged for tax evasion. It's hilarious that north euros blame spanish teams for overspending when their societies suffer from even bigger corruption levels. This has nothing to do with Bayern Munich. All of his normal earnings were taxed by Hoeness. It is "just" about an additional bank account in swiss which he used to speculate at the stock market. Nobody would have found out, he himself decided to go for the option of paying all the taxes plus a fee and therefore not having any legal issues. This can be done anonymous in Germany. His lawyers who handled that for him made a mistake and now he got publicly charged. Not saying he didnt make a mistake, but some background info is always nice. | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6327 Posts
On August 02 2013 00:00 Kleinmuuhg wrote: This has nothing to do with Bayern Munich. All of his normal earnings were taxed by Hoeness. It is "just" about an additional bank account in swiss which he used to speculate at the stock market. Nobody would have found out, he himself decided to go for the option of paying all the taxes plus a fee and therefore not having any legal issues. This can be done anonymous in Germany. His lawyers who handled that for him made a mistake and now he got publicly charged. Not saying he didnt make a mistake, but some background info is always nice. He only decided for that because he knew he was going to get caught anyway. And yes you're right Steveling there's a huge amount of corruption here in the North too and a lot of people are closing their eyes to this fact. | ||
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Kleinmuuhg
Vanuatu4091 Posts
On August 02 2013 00:09 RvB wrote: He only decided for that because he knew he was going to get caught anyway. And yes you're right Steveling there's a huge amount of corruption here in the North too and a lot of people are closing their eyes to this fact. This is wrong. Also of course there is corruption, it is everywhere. I dont see why that should keep any north euros from critizising spanish overspending. | ||
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Maenander
Germany4927 Posts
On August 02 2013 00:00 Kleinmuuhg wrote: This has nothing to do with Bayern Munich. All of his normal earnings were taxed by Hoeness. It is "just" about an additional bank account in swiss which he used to speculate at the stock market. Nobody would have found out, he himself decided to go for the option of paying all the taxes plus a fee and therefore not having any legal issues. This can be done anonymous in Germany. His lawyers who handled that for him made a mistake and now he got publicly charged. Not saying he didnt make a mistake, but some background info is always nice. Afaik gains from the sale of shares quoted on a Stock Exchange aren't even taxable in Greece. | ||
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Kleinmuuhg
Vanuatu4091 Posts
On August 02 2013 00:13 Maenander wrote: Afaik gains from the sale of shares quoted on a Stock Exchange aren't even taxable in Greece. Tax paying in Greece is a painful topic. It is the main reason the country is in this dire situation, besides from maybe to many government employed people. Getting a little offtopic here, sorry. Anyhow. Im excited for the Audi Cup finals! | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
 Lets leave that out of the FOOTBALL thread xDIn terms of the rest of financial discussion about FOOTBALL matters is fine. I do agree that Real and Barca should think about the TV deals, they could still chase the best players in the world and give the other teams more money and make the league better. By keeping it all for themselves it turns people away from watching them domestically and to focus on watching them European level only. | ||
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Maenander
Germany4927 Posts
On August 02 2013 00:12 Kleinmuuhg wrote: This is wrong. Also of course there is corruption, it is everywhere. I dont see why that should keep any north euros from critizising spanish overspending. It's not "Spanish overspending" when Real pays 100M € for Bale, they have the revenues to do that if they want. They might have received a lot of help from the government in the past, but right now Real are not in a bad financial position. So all the talk about Northern European tax payers paying for Real is nonsense. | ||
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Kleinmuuhg
Vanuatu4091 Posts
On August 02 2013 00:17 Maenander wrote: It's not "Spanish overspending" when Real pays 100M € for Bale, they have the revenues to do that if they want. They might have received a lot of help from the government in the past, but right now Real are not in a bad financial position. So all the talk about Northern European tax payers paying for Real is nonsense. I agree completely. Still I count myself to those people that think everything above 50 is insane. For that money you could develop 50+ young talents in your own academy. | ||
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warding
Portugal2397 Posts
On August 02 2013 00:21 Kleinmuuhg wrote: I agree completely. Still I count myself to those people that think everything above 50 is insane. For that money you could develop 50+ young talents in your own academy. Depends on the chance that one of those kids will be at the level of a Gareth Bale once he grows up. It might be very, very low. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Some hovering around it no doubt - Ake , Chalobah , McCheran , Feruz , Baker but i think at max on Ake and Chalobah will make it, unleses Baker Feruz and McCheran actually do something big on loan this year. | ||
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EchoZ
Japan5041 Posts
On August 02 2013 00:27 warding wrote: Depends on the chance that one of those kids will be at the level of a Gareth Bale once he grows up. It might be very, very low. Unless it comes out of Dortmund | ||
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
It would be nice to have a more formalised system like the US has for its sports but then again, it would be too hard to organise and the 'laissez faire' attitude of football is deeply entrenched. Look at how little regard clubs outside of England are giving to FFP. | ||
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TigerKarl
1757 Posts
On August 01 2013 23:54 Steveling wrote: Meanwhile bayerns president Uli Hoeness was charged for tax evasion. It's hilarious that north euros blame spanish teams for overspending when their societies suffer from even bigger corruption levels. don't comment if you're really poorly informed about that case and if you're trying to change reality to feel better about yourself. | ||
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Kleinmuuhg
Vanuatu4091 Posts
On August 02 2013 00:47 sc4k wrote: I think it works much better for football in general if instead of relying on youth academies, players go through minor leagues like Portugal, Netherlands, France, Scotland, lower England leagues before graduating to being picked up by higher teams when they have experience. The current system is that rich clubs poach players from under the noses of honest, hardworking clubs, and then piss around loaning them out for bloody ages. I understand why they do it, but it kind of sucks. It would be nice to have a more formalised system like the US has for its sports but then again, it would be too hard to organise and the 'laissez faire' attitude of football is deeply entrenched. Look at how little regard clubs outside of England are giving to FFP. I like the idea, but I think this is not an A instead of B situation, but maybe more like an age dependent thing. From 14-18 (until they finished school) they could stay in a youth academy. Then 2 years or so of being loaned to minor leagues, before returning to their home club or being sold (like hummels who was sold from bayern to dortmund) Bayerns team is a nice example of what a good youth academy can achieve. | ||
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EchoZ
Japan5041 Posts
Byeeeeeeeee | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8947 Posts
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
On August 02 2013 00:17 Maenander wrote: It's not "Spanish overspending" when Real pays 100M € for Bale, they have the revenues to do that if they want. They might have received a lot of help from the government in the past, but right now Real are not in a bad financial position. So all the talk about Northern European tax payers paying for Real is nonsense. Which to me makes it harder to swallow their current behavior. They were bailed out when they were in trouble and now that the roles are reversed they seemingly do nothing in return. Hell at least share some of the tv rights to the other Spanish teams, if Man Utd and Bayern can do it why not Madrid? edit: sry venting a little | ||
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warding
Portugal2397 Posts
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Epx
Switzerland209 Posts
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