Listen to a Penn State fan try to defend Joe Paterno and then tell me that football fans don't have misplaced values. Its the same with the NFL and this Super Bowl...trust me I know, I live in Baltimore

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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
Listen to a Penn State fan try to defend Joe Paterno and then tell me that football fans don't have misplaced values. Its the same with the NFL and this Super Bowl...trust me I know, I live in Baltimore ![]() | ||
Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On February 04 2013 14:38 Adreme wrote: Show nested quote + On February 04 2013 14:30 Jaaaaasper wrote: Did you guys see that raven shove a ref and not get called at all? Like I said they really werent calling anything on either team that wasnt a completely blatent penalty. Pretty sure shoving the ref qualified as blatant lol | ||
DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
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Adreme
United States5574 Posts
On February 04 2013 14:56 Doodsmack wrote: Show nested quote + On February 04 2013 14:38 Adreme wrote: On February 04 2013 14:30 Jaaaaasper wrote: Did you guys see that raven shove a ref and not get called at all? Like I said they really werent calling anything on either team that wasnt a completely blatent penalty. Pretty sure shoving the ref qualified as blatant lol Thats not the kind of blatent I meant because the refs in NFL are really really lenient when it comes to what they will take. They typically wont take physical contact but again the refs seemed to really not want to be a factor in this football game so they only called really the basic stuff (offsides, illeagal formation) and personal fouls. | ||
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Where dat snitch at?37024 Posts
On February 04 2013 14:26 EvilTeletubby wrote: HEY WHAT'S UP EVERYONE ^_^ Someone's happy ![]() | ||
TheRabidDeer
United States3806 Posts
On February 04 2013 14:29 Bajadulce wrote: ya early 1990's they changed the way the clock is used for out-of-bounds during normal play to speed up game. Clock used to stop anytime play went out of bounds. Should change that back for post season games imho. @ lights out to stall raven's momentum? lol.. they seemed pretty flat 2nd half other than the ko return. 2nd and goal from 5 = RUN RUN RUN = GG AUTO WIN. Ah that explains things. I never pay attention to the clock at that point in the game so I never notice it, but thought I remembered the clock stopping by running out of bounds strategies. | ||
Infernal_dream
United States2359 Posts
On February 04 2013 14:52 Doodsmack wrote: Lmao @ the NFL for not having stricter penalties for on field fights and no mandatory ejection for shoving a ref. Football gets more joketastic by the day. Player misconduct going unpunished for the sake of protecting the game, both in college and pro football. Lewis acting like he's God's messenger when...well let's not even get into that. The dumb football fan base will buy the narrative so surely they'll keep it going on tv. Listen to a Penn State fan try to defend Joe Paterno and then tell me that football fans don't have misplaced values. Its the same with the NFL and this Super Bowl...trust me I know, I live in Baltimore ![]() Lmao at you trying to white knight the entire NFL. It's a game, it's also entertainment. Players fighting is great entertainment. Pushing and shoving happens. They've already got so many fouls for pansy shit you can barely even hit players anymore. You can't celebrate. And you're talking about protecting the game? They are ruining it. It's a physical fucking sport. That's the point. Of course you're going to have players get in scrums, let alone during the SB in which two brothers are coaching. | ||
TheRabidDeer
United States3806 Posts
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Bajadulce
United States322 Posts
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On February 04 2013 15:03 Infernal_dream wrote: Show nested quote + On February 04 2013 14:52 Doodsmack wrote: Lmao @ the NFL for not having stricter penalties for on field fights and no mandatory ejection for shoving a ref. Football gets more joketastic by the day. Player misconduct going unpunished for the sake of protecting the game, both in college and pro football. Lewis acting like he's God's messenger when...well let's not even get into that. The dumb football fan base will buy the narrative so surely they'll keep it going on tv. Listen to a Penn State fan try to defend Joe Paterno and then tell me that football fans don't have misplaced values. Its the same with the NFL and this Super Bowl...trust me I know, I live in Baltimore ![]() Lmao at you trying to white knight the entire NFL. It's a game, it's also entertainment. Players fighting is great entertainment. Pushing and shoving happens. They've already got so many fouls for pansy shit you can barely even hit players anymore. You can't celebrate. And you're talking about protecting the game? They are ruining it. It's a physical fucking sport. That's the point. Of course you're going to have players get in scrums, let alone during the SB in which two brothers are coaching. "Fighting is entertainment" is exactly the problem in most American sports (especially hockey). Fights just serve to tarnish the game and make it a running joke; this isn't MMA, it's a competitive athletic event. Stop throwing flags for accidentally stepping on a QB's fingers and start ejecting people for throwing punches at each other. | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
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semantics
10040 Posts
On February 04 2013 15:00 Adreme wrote: I'd say it's odd that someone actually pushes a ref, a real push and not get ejected esp after a big fight when they want to establish the law of the land. Refs weren't screwing anyone except screwing everyone by not controlling the game.Show nested quote + On February 04 2013 14:56 Doodsmack wrote: On February 04 2013 14:38 Adreme wrote: On February 04 2013 14:30 Jaaaaasper wrote: Did you guys see that raven shove a ref and not get called at all? Like I said they really werent calling anything on either team that wasnt a completely blatent penalty. Pretty sure shoving the ref qualified as blatant lol Thats not the kind of blatent I meant because the refs in NFL are really really lenient when it comes to what they will take. They typically wont take physical contact but again the refs seemed to really not want to be a factor in this football game so they only called really the basic stuff (offsides, illeagal formation) and personal fouls. | ||
M.R. McThundercrotch
United States265 Posts
On February 04 2013 15:23 Stratos_speAr wrote: Show nested quote + On February 04 2013 15:03 Infernal_dream wrote: On February 04 2013 14:52 Doodsmack wrote: Lmao @ the NFL for not having stricter penalties for on field fights and no mandatory ejection for shoving a ref. Football gets more joketastic by the day. Player misconduct going unpunished for the sake of protecting the game, both in college and pro football. Lewis acting like he's God's messenger when...well let's not even get into that. The dumb football fan base will buy the narrative so surely they'll keep it going on tv. Listen to a Penn State fan try to defend Joe Paterno and then tell me that football fans don't have misplaced values. Its the same with the NFL and this Super Bowl...trust me I know, I live in Baltimore ![]() Lmao at you trying to white knight the entire NFL. It's a game, it's also entertainment. Players fighting is great entertainment. Pushing and shoving happens. They've already got so many fouls for pansy shit you can barely even hit players anymore. You can't celebrate. And you're talking about protecting the game? They are ruining it. It's a physical fucking sport. That's the point. Of course you're going to have players get in scrums, let alone during the SB in which two brothers are coaching. "Fighting is entertainment" is exactly the problem in most American sports (especially hockey). Fights just serve to tarnish the game and make it a running joke; this isn't MMA, it's a competitive athletic event. Stop throwing flags for accidentally stepping on a QB's fingers and start ejecting people for throwing punches at each other. Yo, Ray Lewis could straight up stab a dude right on the field and Infernal_dream would want a penalty on San Francisco for getting his knife dirty. | ||
Signus
United States269 Posts
On February 04 2013 15:59 semantics wrote: Show nested quote + I'd say it's odd that someone actually pushes a ref, a real push and not get ejected esp after a big fight when they want to establish the law of the land. Refs weren't screwing anyone except screwing everyone by not controlling the game.On February 04 2013 15:00 Adreme wrote: On February 04 2013 14:56 Doodsmack wrote: On February 04 2013 14:38 Adreme wrote: On February 04 2013 14:30 Jaaaaasper wrote: Did you guys see that raven shove a ref and not get called at all? Like I said they really werent calling anything on either team that wasnt a completely blatent penalty. Pretty sure shoving the ref qualified as blatant lol Thats not the kind of blatent I meant because the refs in NFL are really really lenient when it comes to what they will take. They typically wont take physical contact but again the refs seemed to really not want to be a factor in this football game so they only called really the basic stuff (offsides, illeagal formation) and personal fouls. The Super Bowl is different than any other game, because everyone can't just move onto next week like nothing big happened. No Ref wants to be the cause of ire for the entire offseason if they make a call that hurts the losing team. This is why that guy didn't get ejected and why there wasn't a flag thrown on the Fourth Down play at the end of the game. They don't want to be the center of attention, so they won't go out of their way to enforce the rules unless they it's an absolute given. That's why the game got out of control at times as well, no one is going to get a personal foul for a little roughhousing in the Super Bowl, so things escalate pretty fast. | ||
EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
On February 04 2013 15:01 Seeker wrote: Someone's happy ![]() You could say that. ![]() | ||
TheRabidDeer
United States3806 Posts
On February 04 2013 16:15 Signus wrote: Show nested quote + On February 04 2013 15:59 semantics wrote: On February 04 2013 15:00 Adreme wrote: I'd say it's odd that someone actually pushes a ref, a real push and not get ejected esp after a big fight when they want to establish the law of the land. Refs weren't screwing anyone except screwing everyone by not controlling the game.On February 04 2013 14:56 Doodsmack wrote: On February 04 2013 14:38 Adreme wrote: On February 04 2013 14:30 Jaaaaasper wrote: Did you guys see that raven shove a ref and not get called at all? Like I said they really werent calling anything on either team that wasnt a completely blatent penalty. Pretty sure shoving the ref qualified as blatant lol Thats not the kind of blatent I meant because the refs in NFL are really really lenient when it comes to what they will take. They typically wont take physical contact but again the refs seemed to really not want to be a factor in this football game so they only called really the basic stuff (offsides, illeagal formation) and personal fouls. The Super Bowl is different than any other game, because everyone can't just move onto next week like nothing big happened. No Ref wants to be the cause of ire for the entire offseason if they make a call that hurts the losing team. This is why that guy didn't get ejected and why there wasn't a flag thrown on the Fourth Down play at the end of the game. They don't want to be the center of attention, so they won't go out of their way to enforce the rules unless they it's an absolute given. That's why the game got out of control at times as well, no one is going to get a personal foul for a little roughhousing in the Super Bowl, so things escalate pretty fast. Isnt instant replay an option for a reason? Or are you saying that making a negative call even if it is the right call is a bad thing? | ||
Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
On February 04 2013 15:59 Jibba wrote: I agree about football, especially since there's often so many people involved and it can get messy, but fights in hockey are amazing and they serve a different purpose. Fighting in football/basketball is just hotheaded people who can't control themselves. Fighting in hockey is a mini-game that's meant to impact how other players are treated. The problem isn't the fighting, but what leads to it. These players are emotional and nervous, as someone said, amped up on all the hype and whatever else we may or may not know about, playing in the biggest game of their careers. If someone makes a cheap shot or says something about somebody's mama, I can't really blame them for losing their cool. I think we have to accept that players are going to act like scumbags, and that we can all agree that Cary Williams deserved an ejection for shoving an official like that. Justice will be served however, and knowing Roger Goodell, I'm sure he'll get fined $500,000 or something ridiculous like that. And about the bitching about the Niners last play, you can't call that holding or PI or whatever and ignore that Crabtree was making a lot of contact as well. I can't find a video or gif so I'm going off my memory here, but I'm pretty sure he was pushing off and/or had his hand on the CB's helmet. Better to not call it and not be "that ref who ruined the Super Bowl." On February 04 2013 16:32 TheRabidDeer wrote: Show nested quote + On February 04 2013 16:15 Signus wrote: On February 04 2013 15:59 semantics wrote: On February 04 2013 15:00 Adreme wrote: I'd say it's odd that someone actually pushes a ref, a real push and not get ejected esp after a big fight when they want to establish the law of the land. Refs weren't screwing anyone except screwing everyone by not controlling the game.On February 04 2013 14:56 Doodsmack wrote: On February 04 2013 14:38 Adreme wrote: On February 04 2013 14:30 Jaaaaasper wrote: Did you guys see that raven shove a ref and not get called at all? Like I said they really werent calling anything on either team that wasnt a completely blatent penalty. Pretty sure shoving the ref qualified as blatant lol Thats not the kind of blatent I meant because the refs in NFL are really really lenient when it comes to what they will take. They typically wont take physical contact but again the refs seemed to really not want to be a factor in this football game so they only called really the basic stuff (offsides, illeagal formation) and personal fouls. The Super Bowl is different than any other game, because everyone can't just move onto next week like nothing big happened. No Ref wants to be the cause of ire for the entire offseason if they make a call that hurts the losing team. This is why that guy didn't get ejected and why there wasn't a flag thrown on the Fourth Down play at the end of the game. They don't want to be the center of attention, so they won't go out of their way to enforce the rules unless they it's an absolute given. That's why the game got out of control at times as well, no one is going to get a personal foul for a little roughhousing in the Super Bowl, so things escalate pretty fast. Isnt instant replay an option for a reason? Or are you saying that making a negative call even if it is the right call is a bad thing? You can't challenge penalties. | ||
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Where dat snitch at?37024 Posts
On February 04 2013 16:20 EvilTeletubby wrote: Show nested quote + On February 04 2013 15:01 Seeker wrote: On February 04 2013 14:26 EvilTeletubby wrote: HEY WHAT'S UP EVERYONE ^_^ Someone's happy ![]() You could say that. ![]() But the better question is, are you sober? ![]() | ||
Brett
Australia3820 Posts
If the Ravens had lost following that power outage, it would have been an absolute travesty. They deserved it. | ||
TheRabidDeer
United States3806 Posts
On February 04 2013 16:55 Ferrose wrote: Show nested quote + On February 04 2013 15:59 Jibba wrote: I agree about football, especially since there's often so many people involved and it can get messy, but fights in hockey are amazing and they serve a different purpose. Fighting in football/basketball is just hotheaded people who can't control themselves. Fighting in hockey is a mini-game that's meant to impact how other players are treated. The problem isn't the fighting, but what leads to it. These players are emotional and nervous, as someone said, amped up on all the hype and whatever else we may or may not know about, playing in the biggest game of their careers. If someone makes a cheap shot or says something about somebody's mama, I can't really blame them for losing their cool. I think we have to accept that players are going to act like scumbags, and that we can all agree that Cary Williams deserved an ejection for shoving an official like that. Justice will be served however, and knowing Roger Goodell, I'm sure he'll get fined $500,000 or something ridiculous like that. And about the bitching about the Niners last play, you can't call that holding or PI or whatever and ignore that Crabtree was making a lot of contact as well. I can't find a video or gif so I'm going off my memory here, but I'm pretty sure he was pushing off and/or had his hand on the CB's helmet. Better to not call it and not be "that ref who ruined the Super Bowl." Show nested quote + On February 04 2013 16:32 TheRabidDeer wrote: On February 04 2013 16:15 Signus wrote: On February 04 2013 15:59 semantics wrote: On February 04 2013 15:00 Adreme wrote: I'd say it's odd that someone actually pushes a ref, a real push and not get ejected esp after a big fight when they want to establish the law of the land. Refs weren't screwing anyone except screwing everyone by not controlling the game.On February 04 2013 14:56 Doodsmack wrote: On February 04 2013 14:38 Adreme wrote: On February 04 2013 14:30 Jaaaaasper wrote: Did you guys see that raven shove a ref and not get called at all? Like I said they really werent calling anything on either team that wasnt a completely blatent penalty. Pretty sure shoving the ref qualified as blatant lol Thats not the kind of blatent I meant because the refs in NFL are really really lenient when it comes to what they will take. They typically wont take physical contact but again the refs seemed to really not want to be a factor in this football game so they only called really the basic stuff (offsides, illeagal formation) and personal fouls. The Super Bowl is different than any other game, because everyone can't just move onto next week like nothing big happened. No Ref wants to be the cause of ire for the entire offseason if they make a call that hurts the losing team. This is why that guy didn't get ejected and why there wasn't a flag thrown on the Fourth Down play at the end of the game. They don't want to be the center of attention, so they won't go out of their way to enforce the rules unless they it's an absolute given. That's why the game got out of control at times as well, no one is going to get a personal foul for a little roughhousing in the Super Bowl, so things escalate pretty fast. Isnt instant replay an option for a reason? Or are you saying that making a negative call even if it is the right call is a bad thing? You can't challenge penalties. It covers some penalties... number of players on field and forward passes for example, right? | ||
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