EPTThose are some sexy PRs btw S&M.
The 2014 Weightlifting Progress Thread - Page 72
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BenKen
United States860 Posts
Those are some sexy PRs btw S&M. | ||
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decaf
Austria1797 Posts
"We're all gonna end up in a wheelchair anyway." What a load of crap. If ruining your body in the long run so you can do a high weight good morning is your sport, then that's cool, but it doesn't apply to me. I get it tho what you're trying to tell me, I've worked out sick and hung over numerous times, I haven't skipped a single workout so far unless it was really necessary. I'm not gonna stop going to the gym because of this, but deadlifting thru a pulled intercostal muscle like this retarded video wants suggests me to do is just that, retarded. Or do you go to the gym squatting a week after your broke your femur? Not gonna compromise spinal position because some dude made powerlifting his life and now wants me to listen to his 'inspirational' shit. Not for nothing, but I just dislike PLing a lot. | ||
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steelANDmalice
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AoN.DimSum
United States2983 Posts
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Recognizable
Netherlands1552 Posts
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decafchicken
United States19932 Posts
On June 17 2013 03:24 Recognizable wrote: How does one know if someone uses steriods? I mean, this Ben Rice guy is pretty muscular as well. Testing. That or analysis of training versus tested competition lifts over time, more samples the better. | ||
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decaf
Austria1797 Posts
I don't know what the exact biomechanics behind my injury are, all I know is deadlifting hurts and aggravates it. I don't know who these guys are and I don't care about them, but it's pretty safe to say that everyone who puts up amazing lifts is on steroids. Every natural bodybuilder (IFBB, no need to even mention mr olympia) is on steroids, every oly lifter in the olympics is on steroids and so is every powerlifter. So was CT Fletcher (and he very clearly still is). Just because I'm unwilling to further injure myself because you want me to and call me a bitch if I don't doesn't mean I don't push myself. And I do work around it, I do hang cleans and hyperextensions. And yes, other exercises hurt a little bit as well, like the press and the pull up, I just didn't mention it because it's not so bad that it makes my injury worse. It's good to get some blood flowing there. Don't pretend to know my body better than I do. And if I really wanted an easy way out I wouldn't train for the reasons I do anyway - or train at all for that matter. @recog + Show Spoiler + there are more than just this part to it if you're in doubt if someone is using roids or not, he most likely is @decaf there are so many performance enhancing drugs you simply cannot test for, like insulin, but I haven't done a lot of research about steroids because I don't plan on ever using any | ||
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decafchicken
United States19932 Posts
On June 17 2013 04:40 decaf wrote: but it's pretty safe to say that everyone who puts up amazing lifts is on steroids. Every natural bodybuilder (IFBB, no need to even mention mr olympia) is on steroids, every oly lifter in the olympics is on steroids Absolutely false. | ||
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decaf
Austria1797 Posts
edit: @steel no offense taken (I'm not easily offended I like you guys anyway~), I knew right from the get go what you was on about, but I felt your approach was off, I really don't think this is something I should take lightly and simply ignore. I'm not one of those guys who rely on extrinsical motivation and take the easy way out in everything they do unless they read hardcore motivational quotes. Plus I believe if you completely removed roids the champions would still remain the same. Arnold would still have been Mr Olympia 7 times total and Ilya Ilin would still be the best weightlifters on earth (sry dimas). And I'm not in for a steroid debate, it's tiresome and pointless, you guys can have one if you like to but I won't be part of that discussion. | ||
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steelANDmalice
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Netherlands1552 Posts
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steelANDmalice
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autoexec
United States530 Posts
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funkie
Venezuela9374 Posts
I'M ALWAYS ON THE JUICE YO! SHITS AMAZING! Orange Juice, pineapple Juice, all kinds of juice! Love it! :D | ||
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Vitruvian
United States168 Posts
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Deadeight
United Kingdom1629 Posts
The shoulders and upper pec have more androgen receptors so for a given method of training certain areas will be larger. However, genetics and training method also play a big role in that so can't rely on something like that. The only thing I find annoying about steroids is that because there isn't transparency with it it's almost impossible to set myself long term goals as a natural lifter as I have no idea what's realistically possible. | ||
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GoTuNk!
Chile4591 Posts
However, being 100% honest, I cannot see a reason not to take them other than fear monging; they work and they are amazing. I'm not talking about BBder overdose, but for staying young with replacement therapy untill you die. Hollywood actors look sick good in their 50 and 60s (stallone, tom cruise, etc), while the average joe is destroyed by 45. | ||
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phyre112
United States3090 Posts
On June 17 2013 05:58 autoexec wrote: This makes me wonder if we will ever have an "Esports performance enhancing drugs scandal". lol I'm sure we will, but it will be with adderall and the like, rather than Androgenic Anabolic Steroids. There's already been some talk of it, and quite a few people think Gumiho was abusing them, because his hyperhidrosis, while it can appear spontaneously, is a common side effect of those drugs. On June 17 2013 05:09 decaf wrote: Plus I believe if you completely removed roids the champions would still remain the same. Arnold would still have been Mr Olympia 7 times total and Ilya Ilin would still be the best weightlifters on earth (sry dimas). And I'm not in for a steroid debate, it's tiresome and pointless, you guys can have one if you like to but I won't be part of that discussion. Not even a little bit true. Just like some people have certain genetic advantages, and react differently to different training or different foods, so to do certain people react more or less strongly to different steroids. Removing them from the equation completely would not 100% have changed the champions, and it wouldn't have them be 100% the same - but different people would have been better suited to becoming champions, and so there would have been significant change in the history books. There's also the consideration of money - these things aren't cheap, and it's easier for a sponsored competitor to afford them than the up-and-comer with great potential, but no history. On June 17 2013 18:45 GoTuNk! wrote: I've never taken steroids and I won't anytime soon cause I wanna take a shot at the drug tested powerlifting records within a few years (I see myself doing a 275kg squat with really tight wraps, I pretend to do more than that with single ply at nationals anyway) However, being 100% honest, I cannot see a reason not to take them other than fear monging; they work and they are amazing. I'm not talking about BBder overdose, but for staying young with replacement therapy untill you die. Hollywood actors look sick good in their 50 and 60s (stallone, tom cruise, etc), while the average joe is destroyed by 45. Also absolutely true. While science on the subject is limited by "Ethical Concerns" (lol) the downsides to taking steroids primarily seem to appear in the cases of super-mega doses, (we're talking 5 times normal body production, for years on end) or by people already genetically prone to certain diseases. For smaller doses (say, enough to double natural hormone levels) and with forethought and cycling, the side effects are much less prominent. For their applications in AIDs and Cancer patients alone, I think they're worth giving more attention to. | ||
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YangJia
United States54 Posts
On June 17 2013 18:45 GoTuNk! wrote: I've never taken steroids and I won't anytime soon cause I wanna take a shot at the drug tested powerlifting records within a few years (I see myself doing a 275kg squat with really tight wraps, I pretend to do more than that with single ply at nationals anyway) However, being 100% honest, I cannot see a reason not to take them other than fear monging; they work and they are amazing. I'm not talking about BBder overdose, but for staying young with replacement therapy untill you die. Hollywood actors look sick good in their 50 and 60s (stallone, tom cruise, etc), while the average joe is destroyed by 45. Good luck, since most people in drug tested federations still use roids, as well as gymnasts, strongmen and your great uncle dan. People gotta stop being so naive, and if you know what you're doing (95% of people don't) theres nothing wrong with certain cycles. | ||
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decafchicken
United States19932 Posts
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