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AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
June 17 2013 15:48 GMT
#1441
the drug testers was just in the gym last week testing my teammate! lol
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
Sneakyz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2361 Posts
June 17 2013 15:51 GMT
#1442
On June 18 2013 00:28 decafchicken wrote:
Not true. In america the lifters on no advance notice testing get tested 10+ times a year completely randomly, you're almost guaranteed to get caught if you're juicing.

From what I've heard, random tests are still easy to get around, they only prevent you from using the most powerful stuff. Andriol seems to be one of the more common compounds used for this.
I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20154 Posts
June 17 2013 16:18 GMT
#1443
On June 18 2013 00:51 Sneakyz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 00:28 decafchicken wrote:
Not true. In america the lifters on no advance notice testing get tested 10+ times a year completely randomly, you're almost guaranteed to get caught if you're juicing.

From what I've heard, random tests are still easy to get around, they only prevent you from using the most powerful stuff. Andriol seems to be one of the more common compounds used for this.


Maybe in Europe, but USADA doesnt fuck around. They'll literally show up and test before a training session and then again at the end of the day. There's not really any 'getting around' it.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
June 17 2013 18:43 GMT
#1444
The US tests their Oly lifters really heavily, which is why they never win any medals.

There are still ways around it though, like just going abroad and training in Bulgaria for 6 months, or being on roids for four years before entering any national program.



Squat Nemesis

I know a few people here have been on this, and I'm considering doing it because there's a gym next to my job that I can go to at lunch time and I can't stand sitting down all day. But I have a few questions:

1. Has anyone tried mixing the squat type up? I was thinking about mixing up between front, high bar and low bar but sticking to predominantly high.

2. Has anyone tried doing it multiple times a day? I'm planning on doing it at lunch and after work.

3. How do people tend to train press, upper back, etc whilst on it?

4. Has anyone tried substituting some of the squat sessions for deadlift? I was thinking to not quite go as heavy as a 1rm but maybe like 90-95%.

decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20154 Posts
June 17 2013 19:03 GMT
#1445
i've done it 4x a week usually 2 fs 2 bs. I trained my upper back by doing clean and jerks and snatches :-p
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
June 17 2013 21:44 GMT
#1446
I did front squat MWF and back squat TuTh. You can do upper body exercise after squatting a few times a week.
Your squat technique is going to be awesome. My front squat jumped like 10lb per week for a month on squat nemesis
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Donkeys
Profile Joined August 2010
Mexico308 Posts
June 17 2013 22:36 GMT
#1447
Jon North says he has gotten home and found the USADA guys in his living room waiting for him haha.

Todays training:

snatch - up to 165. four misses at 175
snatch push press - 135x5 140x5 145x5 165x2x2
snatch deadlift - 200x5x3
fs - 205 225 230 235x1x3

I've been snatching like total shit for the past couple of weeks. The pulls feel good, and the lifts look decent on video but I keep locking it out and shifting forward idk why. I'm not jumping forward, but when I catch it my weight shifts and I miss the lift. My programming has been non existant though. I'm going to go back to my old program, squatting 3x a week, doing higher volume in hangs/powers during the week and going heavy at the end of the week, that worked pretty well for me.
http://www.belowtherimyo.blogspot.com/
BenKen
Profile Joined August 2009
United States860 Posts
June 18 2013 01:03 GMT
#1448
BW: 166.1 lbs

Bench:
45x10, 95x10,135x5, 185x3, 205x2, 225x1, work sets: 185x5, 195x5, 205x5x3

Skwatz:
45x10, 135x10, 185x5, 225x3, 245x2, 275x1, work sets:245x5x5, bonus: 185x10

Came in low energy, bench felt awful then on the last set felt ezpz, so maybe I need to warm up better before I hop on the bench? I've been slacking on warmups b/c work leaves me drained, but I guess I just need to get over that. Once I got in a groove at the end of benching I felt great. Squats felt good, for once. Could have gone a little heavier on work sets maybe.

Tomorrow is Oly day. I'm gonna try to remember to bring a camera so I can post a form check. I've been doing the California strength progressions every Oly session, but I lift on my own and don't even really know what to look for form-wise yet.
I deadlift for Aiur
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
June 18 2013 01:33 GMT
#1449
On June 18 2013 07:36 Donkeys wrote:
Jon North says he has gotten home and found the USADA guys in his living room waiting for him haha.

Todays training:

snatch - up to 165. four misses at 175
snatch push press - 135x5 140x5 145x5 165x2x2
snatch deadlift - 200x5x3
fs - 205 225 230 235x1x3

I've been snatching like total shit for the past couple of weeks. The pulls feel good, and the lifts look decent on video but I keep locking it out and shifting forward idk why. I'm not jumping forward, but when I catch it my weight shifts and I miss the lift. My programming has been non existant though. I'm going to go back to my old program, squatting 3x a week, doing higher volume in hangs/powers during the week and going heavy at the end of the week, that worked pretty well for me.



vid? lets see what you are doing wrong. From what I remember, you tend to shift your weight forward too early.
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20154 Posts
June 18 2013 04:28 GMT
#1450
Snatch + 2 hang snatch - 40 60 70 80 90 95 100 105
Snatch - 110x 110 115 120 125x 125x
CJ - 70 90 110 120 130 140

Not bad for playing a rugby tournament saturday and getting fucked up at a music festival yesterday and not a lot of sleep
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
June 18 2013 05:01 GMT
#1451
lol at US officials harrasing lifters
I'm quite sure you can juice year around in bulgaria and russia though

That said, I don't care, I can squat 275kg clean with wraps -.-
decaf
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria1797 Posts
June 18 2013 08:12 GMT
#1452
Yesterday I went sailing for 6 hours, it was fun. I love sailing, it's sort of a man vs nature thing - esp when you have really strong winds and waves are floating the boat. On thu I'll go to Croatia for 3-7 days, I don't know yet. Guess I gotta do some bodyweight stuff then. This time around my pulled muscle heals much faster, I don't even have pressure pain anymore. I guess when I'm back to Austria I can deadlift again.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20154 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-18 13:57:50
June 18 2013 13:57 GMT
#1453
On June 18 2013 14:01 GoTuNk! wrote:

That said, I don't care, I can squat 275kg clean with wraps -.-


Amen.

how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
steelANDmalice
Profile Joined October 2011
87 Posts
June 18 2013 22:15 GMT
#1454
Tasty little PR in the box squats from last night 545-3 no vid then some walk outs at 650 hold for 30 secs. Then finished off with some

Hip circle: sidesteps 3 sets
backsteps 3 sets

Ab roller : knees-12-12-12

leg curl drop sets from 140
BenKen
Profile Joined August 2009
United States860 Posts
June 19 2013 12:07 GMT
#1455
BW: 163lbs

Snatch: 45, 65, 75, 95 (miss x 2)

C&J: 95, 135, 155, 165, 185, 205 (miss x 2)

...yes, those are in lbs...

Form check please, sorry for the shitty quality. Snatches and Cleans.



I have some ideas on what I need to work on, but I'd be interested to see what sticks out to you guys. Still new to these lifts.

Felt like shit during this workout for a bunch of reasons I won't list here, except that I slept like shit. I think I should have had half of the ones I missed, but maybe next time. Feel pretty good this morning though, so we'll see how this afternoon goes. It's "light day" in Texas Method so should be easy either way. I am also thinking I can add a second Oly day without hurting recovery too much for the next few weeks, mostly since I can't lift that much yet lol.

Next time I'll use a better camera, with a better camera angle, at a better gym.
I deadlift for Aiur
decaf
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria1797 Posts
June 19 2013 12:21 GMT
#1456
Your snatches and cleans seem too slow and it looks like you're initially catching the clean with your wrists. When you jerk you want to internally rotate your back foot.
I don't do snatches and jerks yet, but I watch a lot of oly stuff so take it with a grain of salt I guess.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20154 Posts
June 19 2013 14:09 GMT
#1457
I'll look at it later when i've got a minute benken

yesterday:
clean and jerk, bunch at 40-60, 80, 100, 100, 110, 110, 120, 120, 130, 130, 140, 145, 150, 153, 157x
snatch - 50, 70, 90, 100, 110, 120x, 121x, 121, 124, 127, 130x
Bench - 5x5 @ 100kg
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
BenKen
Profile Joined August 2009
United States860 Posts
June 19 2013 14:33 GMT
#1458
On June 19 2013 21:21 decaf wrote:
Your snatches and cleans seem too slow and it looks like you're initially catching the clean with your wrists. When you jerk you want to internally rotate your back foot.
I don't do snatches and jerks yet, but I watch a lot of oly stuff so take it with a grain of salt I guess.


Ok, so I need to catch the clean on my delts i guess? Yeah, I feel slow, hopefully I'll get faster as I get more confidence in the movement.

On the jerk, is it more of a "jump and punch it hard OHP-like" or " drop low real fast and extend arms" or both?

Thanks for the help guys!
I deadlift for Aiur
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20154 Posts
June 19 2013 14:45 GMT
#1459
The jerk is about getting under the bar, doesnt necessarilly matter how high you drive it up as long as you can get under it.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Vitruvian
Profile Joined September 2011
United States168 Posts
June 19 2013 16:30 GMT
#1460
On June 19 2013 21:07 BenKen wrote:
BW: 163lbs

Snatch: 45, 65, 75, 95 (miss x 2)

C&J: 95, 135, 155, 165, 185, 205 (miss x 2)

...yes, those are in lbs...

Form check please, sorry for the shitty quality. Snatches and Cleans.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWtCWik4OH0&feature=youtu.be

I have some ideas on what I need to work on, but I'd be interested to see what sticks out to you guys. Still new to these lifts.

Felt like shit during this workout for a bunch of reasons I won't list here, except that I slept like shit. I think I should have had half of the ones I missed, but maybe next time. Feel pretty good this morning though, so we'll see how this afternoon goes. It's "light day" in Texas Method so should be easy either way. I am also thinking I can add a second Oly day without hurting recovery too much for the next few weeks, mostly since I can't lift that much yet lol.

Next time I'll use a better camera, with a better camera angle, at a better gym.


First impression: The bar starts wayyy out in front on your snatch. I'm pretty sure from the starting position until the bar clears your knees, your shoulders are supposed to be directly over the bar, with your lats engaged to keep the bar close to your body. Your clean appears to have too much arm pull and not enough hip snap.

Yesterday's workout:
Back squat: 3 sets 5 reps @ 345
Bench press: 2 sets 4 reps @ 235, 1 set 6 reps @ 215 with pause at bottom. Chest and arms feel so damn weak lately.
Deadlift: 1 set 5 reps @ 405
Snatch technique work: high pull, hang, full sequence @ 135, 155, 165
CJ technique work: same sequence as above @ 135, 165, 185
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