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Recognizable
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Netherlands1552 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 11:13:57
May 10 2013 11:09 GMT
#1341
On May 10 2013 16:57 KaoReal wrote:
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On May 08 2013 20:53 Recognizable wrote:
On May 08 2013 18:48 sc4k wrote:
On May 08 2013 02:52 Recognizable wrote:
I love pull ups and chin ups. With my low weight I rock that shit yo.


start dangling a weight off yourself, go 5kg then 10kg then 20kg then 30kg and still try for the 6-10 rep range. Either buy a proper belt for it (with a chain) or just use a strong piece of cord and tie it round your waist + the weight.


I can do 10 right now. Once I hit 15 I'll start doing weighted pull ups/chin ups.


I found that I had diminishing returns on bodyweight chins. Started taking me months to add reps. I'd start weighting sooner. For me, personally, my chins started improving much faster on higher weight/intensity than they did on higher volume.


Alright, I'll do it as soon as I stop improving or when I hit 15, whatever happens first. Right now I can pretty much add 1 to my max every time I do them which is once a week for the pull up and chin up. Today I hit 11 for my chin ups for instance. So I am pretty close to 15 anyway. I finally benched 50 kg today, after failing twice. It was astoundly simple.. I mean the very last rep was difficult yes, but they have been harder. And I lost my balance on the squat rofl. I fell and felt like an idiot. I just stopped because I couldn't do 70 kg's past parralel anyway.
I'm thinking about deloading a bit because I've realized I haven't been going past parralel. I've been doing parralel thinking that was good, but you need to go slightly past parralel. How much should I deload? My squat is at 70 kg's right now(155 lb's)
MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
May 10 2013 12:41 GMT
#1342
I know that this is kind of off topic about the chins, but the way that I improved my chin ups and pull ups is by doing bent over rows, specifically with dumbbells since there are no barbells I can use. Pretty good for increasing back strength, and there are tons of ways to increase the difficulty without increasing the weight (stand on one leg, do alternating rows, decrease speed, etc.) that can help with your chin ups.

I went from 9 pull ups to 13 without doing a single pull up in months, and I don't even train with the consistency I should Increasing the weight on pull ups does seem to be more rewarding though, not going to lie.
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
May 10 2013 13:31 GMT
#1343
People do stare at you when you do weighted chin-ups with 2 plates
Official Entusman #21
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20176 Posts
May 10 2013 14:00 GMT
#1344
supposed to take today off and go heavy tomorrow but i've got a rugby game tomorrow so looks like i'm going heavy today after four heavy volume days in a row! lols
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Recognizable
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Netherlands1552 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 14:17:27
May 10 2013 14:16 GMT
#1345
On May 10 2013 22:31 infinity21 wrote:
People do stare at you when you do weighted chin-ups with 2 plates


That's crazy.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
May 10 2013 15:56 GMT
#1346
On May 10 2013 22:31 infinity21 wrote:
People do stare at you when you do weighted chin-ups with 2 plates

Dang, you made it to two plates?
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
LovE-
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1963 Posts
May 10 2013 16:03 GMT
#1347
Two plates o_O that's impressive. I am still struggling on going up from 30 lbs.. And I can't even imagine what 3x that weight would feel like
LovE.311 (NA) || @LovE_Sc2
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
May 10 2013 16:08 GMT
#1348
Lol I'm feeling super motivated to focus on weighted chins again, been working on back lever instead for the moment.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20176 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 16:24:27
May 10 2013 16:23 GMT
#1349
40kg? That's pretty fucking impressive. Never got very far in weighted pull ups. My bodyweight pull ups are pretty awful. used to be able to do around 20 at 90kg bw and now i can barely do 10 at 103kg. always too tired to do them after oly lifting need to be less lazy
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
May 10 2013 16:32 GMT
#1350
if you call yourself lazy decaf, I don't know what most of us are
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
May 10 2013 17:01 GMT
#1351
Chin-ups and pull-ups not the same when it comes to weighted imo. I could do 60lb maybe for a rep or two pull-ups but max chin-ups was 75lb when I tried to find a one rep max back in December.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Recognizable
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Netherlands1552 Posts
May 10 2013 17:50 GMT
#1352
On May 11 2013 02:01 mordek wrote:
Chin-ups and pull-ups not the same when it comes to weighted imo. I could do 60lb maybe for a rep or two pull-ups but max chin-ups was 75lb when I tried to find a one rep max back in December.


Ah shit. For a minute that made no sense. Then I realized I was misnaming the exercises, my chin up was your pull up haha.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20176 Posts
May 10 2013 18:07 GMT
#1353
On May 11 2013 01:32 AsnSensation wrote:
if you call yourself lazy decaf, I don't know what most of us are


Lazy compared to the lifters that are better than me! Must do more.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 19:48:56
May 10 2013 19:23 GMT
#1354
Lol, chin ups is with the supinated group and pull ups with the prone group.
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
May 11 2013 12:30 GMT
#1355
On May 11 2013 04:23 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:
Lol, chin ups is with the supinated group and pull ups with the prone group.



That's how I'd always called them, but then I've got an anatomy book which calls prone "chi-ups" and supine "reverse chin-ups". Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a standard.
MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-11 12:45:20
May 11 2013 12:45 GMT
#1356
On May 11 2013 21:30 Deadeight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2013 04:23 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:
Lol, chin ups is with the supinated group and pull ups with the prone group.



That's how I'd always called them, but then I've got an anatomy book which calls prone "chi-ups" and supine "reverse chin-ups". Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a standard.

Really? Starting Strength goes with the classification method I go with, and that's what most of the people I know call them (including the personal trainers and gym coaches I talk to). Kind of weird that an anatomy book would call them "reverse chin-ups" to begin with, especially since pull-ups is a widely accepted term, lol.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
May 11 2013 14:13 GMT
#1357
On May 10 2013 22:31 infinity21 wrote:
People do stare at you when you do weighted chin-ups with 2 plates


You gotta get up to the crowd with 3 plates, brah.

Although I doubt I could do 3 plates right now, haha.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20176 Posts
May 11 2013 15:53 GMT
#1358
what are your chins/dips up to eshlow?
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
May 12 2013 01:51 GMT
#1359
On May 11 2013 21:45 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2013 21:30 Deadeight wrote:
On May 11 2013 04:23 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:
Lol, chin ups is with the supinated group and pull ups with the prone group.



That's how I'd always called them, but then I've got an anatomy book which calls prone "chi-ups" and supine "reverse chin-ups". Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a standard.

Really? Starting Strength goes with the classification method I go with, and that's what most of the people I know call them (including the personal trainers and gym coaches I talk to). Kind of weird that an anatomy book would call them "reverse chin-ups" to begin with, especially since pull-ups is a widely accepted term, lol.



Yeah it's kind of odd: http://i.imgur.com/bCLtA27.png

sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
May 12 2013 02:09 GMT
#1360
On May 12 2013 10:51 Deadeight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2013 21:45 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:
On May 11 2013 21:30 Deadeight wrote:
On May 11 2013 04:23 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:
Lol, chin ups is with the supinated group and pull ups with the prone group.



That's how I'd always called them, but then I've got an anatomy book which calls prone "chi-ups" and supine "reverse chin-ups". Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a standard.

Really? Starting Strength goes with the classification method I go with, and that's what most of the people I know call them (including the personal trainers and gym coaches I talk to). Kind of weird that an anatomy book would call them "reverse chin-ups" to begin with, especially since pull-ups is a widely accepted term, lol.



Yeah it's kind of odd: http://i.imgur.com/bCLtA27.png



I call the one on the left wide grip pullups and the one on the right standard pullups . God damn this terminology is confusing. I would be seriously impressed if someone can do wide grip pullups with 40kg weight for reps!!!!
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