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On May 04 2013 06:07 ShadowDrgn wrote:
Being able to bench 3x5 75% of your bodyweight after a month is awesome. Your OHP is rather low in comparison, but that's probably an issue of form/experience rather than raw strength.
I started with benching the bar 20 months ago, now I'm benching 100kg+ and deadlifting 200kg. Just keep at it, it's a marathon not a sprint.
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On May 04 2013 00:57 Thor.Rush wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2013 23:27 decafchicken wrote:On May 03 2013 22:53 Thor.Rush wrote:
Chris Hemsworth works his ass off to look the way he does, but he also 100% takes steroids. Greg Plitt is someone who claims to be natural (I doubt he is, but he's definitely in the natural limit range, as far as his muscular size and weight). Why is he 100% steroids? I know people that big if not bigger that have never touched juice. If my job was basically just to look good on camera and had unlimited resources in terms of food and working out i could probably hit that physique in a year. Pretty much everyone agrees that the time it took for him to go from already ripped to super jacked for the movie role, would be impossible without the use of steroids. You can see on google how much smaller he was. Mind you, this is really common in hollywood these days. The actors get monitored well by doctors to ensure there aren't any health complications from taking them. I would do the same if I got offered a movie role worth millions. If you think you can achieve his physique in 1 year naturally, you're dead wrong. It takes at least several years and good genetics.
Considering Decaf's starting point, I'm quite positive he could get to where hemsworth is in under a year, without the use of pharmaceutical supplementation. Now, starting off without any lifting experience, and no ability to move real weight? that's another story.
Sure, the majority of actors have taken steroids to get where they are - but they've had to get to a point that should take five years, in only 15 months. I have my concerns about steroids, and I have it in my head that most other people's concerns are total bullshit - but that's not really a topic for this thread. The important thing is that 90% of hollywood bodies are perfectly well achievable in a couple (2-3) years by 90% of people.
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On May 04 2013 05:29 Recognizable wrote:
Man, I'm so fucking weak I'm appaling myself. I'm a month into SS and I failed to increase my Bench to 50 kg's from 47.5. Ugh.. I also couldn't increase my OHP from 27.5 to 30kg's 2 days ago. I'm definitely getting bigger tho, so atleast I have that going for me. I am about 60 kg's by the way. So how terrible are these numbers for a month of SS?
Well you are benching the same as I do, and I am 4 months into StrongLifts. Granted, I started with the empty bar and had never lifter a weight before in my life, but I'd say nontheless getting to near 50 in a single month is pretty impressive. My rule is to never compare myself to the gym bros that have been there forever, since it makes no sense. You can only compare you to yourself, since it is the only way to know if you are progressing.
OHP is a bitch. You have to learn how to make the path of the bar exactly vertical, because a little bit of forward motion (typically when you try to go 'around' your head) will make the movement very difficult to complete. Just by understanding this I shot my OHP from 25 to 35 kgs. How I do it: The starting position is the bar resting on your upper chest, with your elbows forward so that you can see them. Arch your back a bit, keep your head back as if you are looking at a point just over your height, and then press the bar up and bit back, aiming to almost touch your nose. Once the bar has surpassed your nose then you have to push your head forward and look down, while the movement completes and your elbows lock. To go down just reverse the movement. Keep your core and glutes tight throughout the movement. Also try narrowing your grip, since a wide grip makes it more difficult as well.
Keep at it and you will no doubt see lots of progress soon!
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On May 04 2013 22:52 Ender985 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2013 05:29 Recognizable wrote:
Man, I'm so fucking weak I'm appaling myself. I'm a month into SS and I failed to increase my Bench to 50 kg's from 47.5. Ugh.. I also couldn't increase my OHP from 27.5 to 30kg's 2 days ago. I'm definitely getting bigger tho, so atleast I have that going for me. I am about 60 kg's by the way. So how terrible are these numbers for a month of SS? Well you are benching the same as I do, and I am 4 months into StrongLifts. Granted, I started with the empty bar and had never lifter a weight before in my life, but I'd say nontheless getting to near 50 in a single month is pretty impressive. My rule is to never compare myself to the gym bros that have been there forever, since it makes no sense. You can only compare you to yourself, since it is the only way to know if you are progressing. OHP is a bitch. You have to learn how to make the path of the bar exactly vertical, because a little bit of forward motion (typically when you try to go 'around' your head) will make the movement very difficult to complete. Just by understanding this I shot my OHP from 25 to 35 kgs. How I do it: The starting position is the bar resting on your upper chest, with your elbows forward so that you can see them. Arch your back a bit, keep your head back as if you are looking at a point just over your height, and then press the bar up and bit back, aiming to almost touch your nose. Once the bar has surpassed your nose then you have to push your head forward and look down, while the movement completes and your elbows lock. To go down just reverse the movement. Keep your core and glutes tight throughout the movement. Also try narrowing your grip, since a wide grip makes it more difficult as well. Keep at it and you will no doubt see lots of progress soon!
Thanks for the advice on the OHP. Now that I think of it, I'm indeed not completely sure if I make the bar travel in a vertical line. I will try to pay attention to it the next time. I started with about 35 kg´s by the way and I go more often to the gym than the program dictates, so I have a headstart  Does anyone here run on off days by the way? It really seems to help my legs recover.
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lol i was going to post about it.
Almost tore my elbow on this attempt LOL. I just passed on my third after this.
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Man you gotta do something about that spinning thing 
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I'll first apologize for how hard I laughed at my monitor watching that, sorry DimSum. Next off, why were the people there still chatting away when you were about to lift, that's just incredibly rude. I'm not talking about the people yelling at you directly but the people just making chatter in the background.
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 yeah i suck
yeah usually a lot of ppl talk. Probably in the warmup area.
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Back from school. The gym near my house that I am working out has no way to do an standing OH press for me. Is a seated one as effective? Do I need to do something to supplement those?
I already hate the place, the power-racks are MaxRacks, and there are no olympic bars that aren't locked onto those. Trying to do deadlifts and squats inside one of those feels different.
Image of a Maxrack. The bar is locked in place horizontally, it is like a hybrid of free-weight and a Smith Machine.(Ie it stays perfectly level) Not sure why they have these and not power-racks, it doesn't seem any safer than having the bar free.
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Weighing in at 82,6kg thus far! That's a 11kg increase from october 2012, without noticeable fat gain.
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<3 muscle memory!
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Can anyone please tell me the name of the common neck condition among nerds and office workers, where they keep their heads low, before their bodies, even when facing front? I just can't seem remember or find it.
Basically, the upper body has the shape of the cotangent curve when viewed from the side, or similar to how the Ithorians look in Star Wars. I hope that helps describe it 
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On May 06 2013 09:34 EtherealBlade wrote:Can anyone please tell me the name of the common neck condition among nerds and office workers, where they keep their heads low, before their bodies, even when facing front? I just can't seem remember or find it. Basically, the upper body has the shape of the cotangent curve when viewed from the side, or similar to how the Ithorians look in Star Wars. I hope that helps describe it
(hyper)kyfosis = when you have your upper back and shoulders forward/rounded, also known as "Upper cross syndrome"
(hyper)lordosis = when you have your ass sticking out and your lower back arched too much, gut sticking out, also known as "Lower cross syndrome"
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On May 06 2013 09:37 kaluro wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2013 09:34 EtherealBlade wrote:Can anyone please tell me the name of the common neck condition among nerds and office workers, where they keep their heads low, before their bodies, even when facing front? I just can't seem remember or find it. Basically, the upper body has the shape of the cotangent curve when viewed from the side, or similar to how the Ithorians look in Star Wars. I hope that helps describe it (hyper)kyfosis = when you have your upper back and shoulders forward/rounded, also known as "Upper cross syndrome" (hyper)lordosis = when you have your ass sticking out and your lower back arched too much, gut sticking out, also known as "Lower cross syndrome"
Thanks! I've managed to track it down on Wikipedia and it calls the condition "Scholar's Neck" or "Reading Neck"
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On May 06 2013 10:17 EtherealBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2013 09:37 kaluro wrote:On May 06 2013 09:34 EtherealBlade wrote:Can anyone please tell me the name of the common neck condition among nerds and office workers, where they keep their heads low, before their bodies, even when facing front? I just can't seem remember or find it. Basically, the upper body has the shape of the cotangent curve when viewed from the side, or similar to how the Ithorians look in Star Wars. I hope that helps describe it (hyper)kyfosis = when you have your upper back and shoulders forward/rounded, also known as "Upper cross syndrome" (hyper)lordosis = when you have your ass sticking out and your lower back arched too much, gut sticking out, also known as "Lower cross syndrome" Thanks! I've managed to track it down on Wikipedia and it calls the condition "Scholar's Neck" or "Reading Neck"
upper crossed syndrome
head forward posture
whatever you want to call it...
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No but I've heard from multiple sources it's basically most of the stuff of the SF CF blog. And the preview 50 pg thing look to be as much.
And most of the publishing companies do this now which is ship out like 500 books to reviews who are supposed to put up reviews on launch day. That's how it hits up on the top 100 best seller AMazon list. I think Tim Ferriss invented that marketing procedure with the 4 hour work week/body/etc.
I'm probably not going to get it just because I know most of the stuff already and I can easily come up with my own mobilizations if I need to since I have the PT background
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On May 06 2013 03:02 AoN.DimSum wrote: yeah i suck yeah usually a lot of ppl talk. Probably in the warmup area.
"yeah i suck"
*crushes 1.5xbw snatch for opener*
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I'm going to join my local YMCA soon to start weight training. I have a few questions for veterans.
1) I have no friends who want to go out and join a gym. What should I absolutely NOT be doing without a partner to spot me? What are good substitutes to those training methods?
2) How to find out your initial starting point. What should I be doing to find out where I'm at to log it?
3) What are realistic but fulfilling goals? Should I be aiming for a certain percentage in increased weight? I have no concept of what realistic goals are so I would like a way to cataloge and start aiming toward my goals.
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1) Don't do a 1 rep max bench press without a spotter. Anything else is fair game, imo. You may even be able to pull a movable bench over to a power rack with some safety rails and do that too.
2) Starting Strength has a section devoted to this. Pretty much you start with an empty bar and add weight until the lift feels harder than before. If 55 lbs feels exactly like 45 lbs, add more, etc. StrongLifts recommends just starting with the empty bar no matter what. If you've never lifted before (or haven't recently), you're going to be really really sore after your first workout, even if it felt easy at the gym. Don't overdo it. There's no such thing as starting too light.
3) Goals are great and you should definitely set some, but you might want to just work out for a month or two without any specific goal and follow a program like SS or SL. Make your goal following the program and getting your ass to the gym 3x a week. After you get a feel for things, you can set realistic weight goals for yourself.
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On May 07 2013 13:51 Arisen wrote:
I'm going to join my local YMCA soon to start weight training. I have a few questions for veterans.
1) I have no friends who want to go out and join a gym. What should I absolutely NOT be doing without a partner to spot me? What are good substitutes to those training methods?
2) How to find out your initial starting point. What should I be doing to find out where I'm at to log it?
3) What are realistic but fulfilling goals? Should I be aiming for a certain percentage in increased weight? I have no concept of what realistic goals are so I would like a way to cataloge and start aiming toward my goals.
1: If you really need a spot you can always ask for one. At least in my gym everyone is friendly enough to help each other.
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