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sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
August 28 2012 00:04 GMT
#1421
On August 28 2012 08:37 city42 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2012 08:15 sc4k wrote:
As much as I disagree with Rebs about a lot of opinion-based arguments (mostly to do with favouring styles), there is no way that he is a bad poster or does not know about football. I'd warrant he is one of the most knowledgable guys on this forum in football. It was so obvious he wasn't being serious in that reply.

Chelsea have had a lot of favourable calls especially at home, I would say we are probably in the top 5 of 'favoured' clubs. Not as bad as Man U though. I also am still unsure about Torres, but optimistic that he can make this season at least a 15 goal season if not more.

By the way, the fact that Levy could only get 24 mill for Modric is unbelievably pathetic. He could have gotten twice that selling to Chelsea. What a moron.

1) It wasn't 24, it was 27 + 6 in add-ons, and you can expect most performance-based add-ons to be met since he plays on a superteam.

2) The whole "Chelsea offered 40 million last year!" argument is utter bullshit. Their final offer was 30 mill + Alex, whom they rated at 10. There's no way in hell Alex would have agreed to personal terms with Spurs, because it'd mean a colossal pay cut. Don't forget, QPR tried to grab him in the January transfer window but couldn't offer near enough wages. Alex is now playing for PSG where you can be sure he's well compensated.

3) Selling him to another premiership team would be stupid.


Well, he's still a cock and a moron...but if this is true (ps source?) this sale makes more sense.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-28 00:14:59
August 28 2012 00:13 GMT
#1422
On August 28 2012 09:01 sc4k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2012 08:55 Steveling wrote:
Barcelona will take it all this year. Like every other year. Messi will score 82 goals.
YOU HAVE BEING WARNED ANTIFOOTBALL FANS!(im looking at you chelsea fans)


Like every other year? Last year they failed miserably ;P




I said every other year. Six years ago they started the trend with the tremble, then they failed at semis, four years ago they won it all, then stopped in semis, 3 seasons ago they won it all again, last year stopped in semis, you know what's coming next!
And it's not about physical game, that's what mou tried to do for the past decade and beat them like, 3 times. You can't kick Messi and Iniesta to the ground, it's impossible. All you can do is pray they'll be in a rough night or that they'll hit the post.

DOOOOOOOOOOOOMED! xD

My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-28 00:25:54
August 28 2012 00:23 GMT
#1423
Oh I see what you mean. Haha I guess there is a pattern xD.

Seriously though I think this is an easy way to beat Barcelona: 8 defenders (2 fast, 4 medium paced, 2 strong), staying inside the box, one of those defenders must be able to throw the ball 30-40 yards. One sick keeper. One guy who can pass long. One very fast attacker. Get him down the wing, and then get him to hit the ball AS HARD as he can against their defender when he's near the byline. Throw in or corner. Laugh at Barca's lack of height in defence and score a goal. Lol your way to a 1-0 or 2-1 victory. Mou has been getting physical but not in the right way imo. I think it's a waste to challenge barca for the ball in midfield with their lame triangles. Just let them do their moronic pass-around-the-middle-for-no-good-reason-other-than-tire-the-opposition-out-chasing-for-it, wait for them to come into the final third (after five minutes), only let them take distance shots and block their runs by standing in their way. Barca just has a really good team to beat the current style of other teams, but there is no way it is the only way to play, and it could be beaten with the right team setup.

I really don't think that chasing Barca down in the midfield, which is what Mourinho does, is a sensible policy.

Of course my anti barca team would suck against everyone else
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-28 01:16:46
August 28 2012 00:36 GMT
#1424
On August 28 2012 05:43 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 20:41 Rebs wrote:
On August 27 2012 14:29 krndandaman wrote:
On August 27 2012 09:37 Rebs wrote:
On August 27 2012 08:25 sc4k wrote:
Well that was cathartic, ps gratz on climbing the ranks this week in fantasy, my team is all over the shop.


thanks,I think i said this before but to me the first few weeks is more of a lottery, To my mind there are literally 0 ways to accurately be able to establish how players are going to get you points without having atleast a month of football to look at.


there's a decent way to pick players for gameweeks/just in general with limited info

1) opponents' level (are they versing QPR or Man City)
2) home or away?
3) future games and combinations of 1/2 (for longterm trade players)
4) watch first few games, see who gets the majority of chances at goals/passes regardless of result. they are bound to score eventually (unless they just suck which you can tell right away). especially defenders (6 points for goal, 3points for assists is sweet on top of an opportunity for clean sheets). these were the reasons why i traded for michu, dyer, assou-ekotto, vermaelen, and adebayor this week. all produced results cept adefailyor(gamble cuz he was assumed to become main scoring option but didnt see him playing in games).
5) tend to pick guys who are the main options. (ie. Tevez on MC because aguero is out, VanPersie on old arsenal, etc)
6) spend low on defenders, spend very high on midfielders, mid-high on forwards.
cheap defenders on good defending teams can get you 6points off cleansheets and thats more than good enough (last year newcastle + this year's swansea/everton). great midfielders are key as they give you 5points for goals and rack alot of assists. get the midfielders who score a decent amount and get the ball alot. for forwards just get 1 elite scorer if you can (9points and above) and whatever else you can afford. 4points per goal is just not that much and forwards don't get too much assists. the elite scorer should get you a lot of goals to make up for the lack of points per goals.

this has worked pretty well for me and have been generally successful, especially with trading.
last year I finished first and I believe my total team value was something like 102 because I got alot of points off trades (decreases overall team value the more you trade) and 2nd place had something like a value of 106.

im not really experienced with fantasy but this basic trading strategy has worked for me so far so just wanted to share what i know!


Thats all pretty standard but going into a season thats still no gaurantee. That method can mean anything between 30 and 90 points on any day in the first few weeks. Theres no substitute for being able to see them play. Thats why I said early on is a lottery, not later.


well yeah, there's no guarantee in any stage of the season. but its not as much of a lottery as you say it is.
the beginning fo the season is actually all taking calculated risks imo rather than lottery. pick those with lowest risk and highest rewards as possible. later on is when you pick for value and/or consistency


Everyone is risk averse, in fantasy. I dont even support any team so theres literally no bias there and I still feel every season when I pick the first team before the start of the season its a whole new ball game and I dont know shit. Its educated guesses at best and the start of the season is a real pointfest. It tends to plateau after the first month or so and thats where you start picking for real, but by then if you've got the right picks just based on hmm this guy "usually" does well then its just a really good guess. Hence. Lottery.

Ofcourse at the end of it its still luck, but calling a hand blind is significantly less likely to win you something than calling it pre flop if you get my drift ?

Totally different game.
city42
Profile Joined October 2007
1656 Posts
August 28 2012 00:44 GMT
#1425
On August 28 2012 09:04 sc4k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2012 08:37 city42 wrote:
On August 28 2012 08:15 sc4k wrote:
As much as I disagree with Rebs about a lot of opinion-based arguments (mostly to do with favouring styles), there is no way that he is a bad poster or does not know about football. I'd warrant he is one of the most knowledgable guys on this forum in football. It was so obvious he wasn't being serious in that reply.

Chelsea have had a lot of favourable calls especially at home, I would say we are probably in the top 5 of 'favoured' clubs. Not as bad as Man U though. I also am still unsure about Torres, but optimistic that he can make this season at least a 15 goal season if not more.

By the way, the fact that Levy could only get 24 mill for Modric is unbelievably pathetic. He could have gotten twice that selling to Chelsea. What a moron.

1) It wasn't 24, it was 27 + 6 in add-ons, and you can expect most performance-based add-ons to be met since he plays on a superteam.

2) The whole "Chelsea offered 40 million last year!" argument is utter bullshit. Their final offer was 30 mill + Alex, whom they rated at 10. There's no way in hell Alex would have agreed to personal terms with Spurs, because it'd mean a colossal pay cut. Don't forget, QPR tried to grab him in the January transfer window but couldn't offer near enough wages. Alex is now playing for PSG where you can be sure he's well compensated.

3) Selling him to another premiership team would be stupid.


Well, he's still a cock and a moron...but if this is true (ps source?) this sale makes more sense.

Source for what? Here is the deal they turned down from Chelsea, and you can find the details of the Madrid transfer anywhere.
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-28 01:50:53
August 28 2012 01:19 GMT
#1426
On August 28 2012 09:44 city42 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2012 09:04 sc4k wrote:
On August 28 2012 08:37 city42 wrote:
On August 28 2012 08:15 sc4k wrote:
As much as I disagree with Rebs about a lot of opinion-based arguments (mostly to do with favouring styles), there is no way that he is a bad poster or does not know about football. I'd warrant he is one of the most knowledgable guys on this forum in football. It was so obvious he wasn't being serious in that reply.

Chelsea have had a lot of favourable calls especially at home, I would say we are probably in the top 5 of 'favoured' clubs. Not as bad as Man U though. I also am still unsure about Torres, but optimistic that he can make this season at least a 15 goal season if not more.

By the way, the fact that Levy could only get 24 mill for Modric is unbelievably pathetic. He could have gotten twice that selling to Chelsea. What a moron.

1) It wasn't 24, it was 27 + 6 in add-ons, and you can expect most performance-based add-ons to be met since he plays on a superteam.

2) The whole "Chelsea offered 40 million last year!" argument is utter bullshit. Their final offer was 30 mill + Alex, whom they rated at 10. There's no way in hell Alex would have agreed to personal terms with Spurs, because it'd mean a colossal pay cut. Don't forget, QPR tried to grab him in the January transfer window but couldn't offer near enough wages. Alex is now playing for PSG where you can be sure he's well compensated.

3) Selling him to another premiership team would be stupid.


Well, he's still a cock and a moron...but if this is true (ps source?) this sale makes more sense.

Source for what? Here is the deal they turned down from Chelsea, and you can find the details of the Madrid transfer anywhere.


I genuinely can't find a definitive and exact breakdown of the deal.

Wow, watching At Madrid v Athletic, such a gorgeous performance from Falcao, what a player. Wish we signed him.
MetalMarine
Profile Joined June 2007
United States1559 Posts
August 28 2012 02:08 GMT
#1427
On August 28 2012 08:55 Steveling wrote:
Barcelona will take it all this year. Like every other year. Messi will score 82 goals.
YOU HAVE BEING WARNED ANTIFOOTBALL FANS!(im looking at you chelsea fans)


A Barca fan talking about anti football....?
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
August 28 2012 03:23 GMT
#1428
I think that the reason RM are coming up with this crazy Tottenham partnership idea is so they can get bale lol
Stimp
Profile Joined November 2010
South Africa780 Posts
August 28 2012 05:23 GMT
#1429
On August 28 2012 08:55 Steveling wrote:
YOU HAVE BEING WARNED ANTIFOOTBALL FANS!(im looking at you chelsea fans)


I lol every time. O noes they used tactics to counter us instead of rolling over
Don't count your apples before they've... grown
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-28 09:38:25
August 28 2012 08:09 GMT
#1430
Fucking Falcao >.<
Guys in form, Chelsea vs Atletico Madrid going to be a good game i think. Im very much looking forward to the Friday spectacle, last time Chelsea played in the Super Cup was when Zola was playing, came off the bench and scored an amazing freekick for us to win <3 ahh the crazy crazy times.

Lol Liverpool going in for Daniel Sturridge, Chelsea want £25million for him. Well, if you want him and will pay that much...take him, take him.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Ezaura_au
Profile Joined August 2012
114 Posts
August 28 2012 11:14 GMT
#1431
Liverpool would do well to get Lee Chung Yong from relegated Bolton. Great winger.
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
August 28 2012 11:23 GMT
#1432
I'm looking forward to see how Swansea does this year, should be good. And QPR is just sad.
Dear Sixsmith...
hns
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany609 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-28 11:36:09
August 28 2012 11:35 GMT
#1433
On August 28 2012 09:01 sc4k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2012 08:55 Steveling wrote:
Barcelona will take it all this year. Like every other year. Messi will score 82 goals.
YOU HAVE BEING WARNED ANTIFOOTBALL FANS!(im looking at you chelsea fans)


Like every other year? Last year they failed miserably ;P

And La Liga teams have already learned how to counter their tiki taka, zero physicality, zero crossing/ heading ability. I'm confident that if European teams just copy that then Barcelona will look a lot less invincible.


Imho the biggest problem Barca had last season was not being "countered" but much more so the failure in actually converting their opportunities into goals (most prominently of course that certain penalty by Messi..). Even in the games vs. Chelsea they had enough good chances to score. With a Villa up to his game this could/should very well change.
ZerO, Action, Neo.G_Soulkey & FlaSh fanboy~~
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51574 Posts
August 28 2012 11:56 GMT
#1434
On August 28 2012 20:14 Ezaura_au wrote:
Liverpool would do well to get Lee Chung Yong from relegated Bolton. Great winger.


I'd watch him for a season and see how he plays in the Championship; coming off a broken leg, going in for a transfer is suicide.
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mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
August 28 2012 12:01 GMT
#1435
On August 28 2012 08:55 Steveling wrote:
Barcelona will take it all this year. Like every other year. Messi will score 82 goals.
YOU HAVE BEING WARNED ANTIFOOTBALL FANS!(im looking at you chelsea fans)


passing the ball 5 yards 1 million times before you decide to shoot isn't good football, it may look impressive on your fucking huge cheat pitch but there is a reason a sub-par Chelsea side done you last season
hns
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany609 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-28 12:32:44
August 28 2012 12:32 GMT
#1436
You mean that fucking huge cheat pitch which has the same size as the one in Chelsea or Munich and is even smaller than the one in Bernabeu? :D
ZerO, Action, Neo.G_Soulkey & FlaSh fanboy~~
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
August 28 2012 12:58 GMT
#1437
Hazard is really looking like he and his agent were right about his value. I'm so insanely glad he chose Chelsea. If he stays fit he'll be such an asset for the team, he really links the offence and defence up nicely. I also want to see Oscar playing, I think he could be just as useful. Also, Moses. Holy shit there's a lot of quality xD
pyro19
Profile Joined August 2010
6575 Posts
August 28 2012 13:00 GMT
#1438
On August 28 2012 21:32 hns wrote:
You mean that fucking huge cheat pitch which has the same size as the one in Chelsea or Munich and is even smaller than the one in Bernabeu? :D


You missed the main Point here.
Thy Shall Die Alone...or emm..something like that.
pyro19
Profile Joined August 2010
6575 Posts
August 28 2012 13:03 GMT
#1439
On August 28 2012 21:58 sc4k wrote:
Hazard is really looking like he and his agent were right about his value. I'm so insanely glad he chose Chelsea. If he stays fit he'll be such an asset for the team, he really links the offence and defence up nicely. I also want to see Oscar playing, I think he could be just as useful. Also, Moses. Holy shit there's a lot of quality xD


I'm still not convinced by Oscar...What have Chelsea brought him in for? As a CM he didn't look that good even in the Brazil Squad and I rate Mereilles - Ramires - Mikel partnership over Oscar - X - X chelsea midfielder...

Thy Shall Die Alone...or emm..something like that.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 28 2012 13:03 GMT
#1440
Yeah the Camp Nou pitch gets more water on it than the sea beds themselves.
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