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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28912 Posts
August 26 2012 22:55 GMT
#1381
On August 27 2012 06:50 Rebs wrote:
On a side note I dont understand why a few games this early in the season would d define the season for teams. Dont see how people feel so comfortable predicting how they are going to do based of a couple of weeks.


I think it's mostly just jokes about how barcelona and real have been dropping so few games the last couple seasons that 5 points is all they need.
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Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-26 22:57:54
August 26 2012 22:57 GMT
#1382
On August 27 2012 07:55 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 06:50 Rebs wrote:
On a side note I dont understand why a few games this early in the season would d define the season for teams. Dont see how people feel so comfortable predicting how they are going to do based of a couple of weeks.


I think it's mostly just jokes about how barcelona and real have been dropping so few games the last couple seasons that 5 points is all they need.


Yea know I didnt mean quips and 1 liners. I think everyone will know if Im talking about them or not.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
August 26 2012 22:57 GMT
#1383
5 point lead after 2 games means next to nothing. Still a long season ahead of us. Let's not get carried away.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-26 22:57:47
August 26 2012 22:57 GMT
#1384
The penalty came from a dive from Fabregas so it would have been unfair if it had been scored. And like I said, I accept that Chelsea get favourable calls and it pisses me off whenever we do. I reserve the right to criticise any team for shitty performances and criticise any ref for retarded calls because I don't act like they don't happen to us. It would all be solved if they just allowed (video replay) challenges like in NFL, cricket or tennis.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-26 23:08:18
August 26 2012 23:05 GMT
#1385
On August 27 2012 07:57 sc4k wrote:
The penalty came from a dive from Fabregas so it would have been unfair if it had been scored. And like I said, I accept that Chelsea get favourable calls and it pisses me off whenever we do. I reserve the right to criticise any team for shitty performances and criticise any ref for retarded calls because I don't act like they don't happen to us. It would all be solved if they just allowed (video replay) challenges like in NFL, cricket or tennis.


Ok then, I guess I'll do it to

Its really lame that Chelsea gets all these start calls all the fucking time. Practically brought Torres back into form with that bad call. Who knows how long he wouldve struggled if he didnt get the confidence from that shit shit offside goal. Now even poor Newcastle had to suffer because an illegal goal put a struggling striker in form. And Reading to, they were totally taking the game to Chelsea but then that terrible offside destroyed their spirit. Such a shame.

Also Barca didnt deserve to win today they were so garbage. Busquets looked like a 1 legged hoofless donkey. Puyol needs leg braces and referees get paid to make them win. Now the title race is already fucking over. Such BS. Spain is just so bad. How did they manage to get that ranking in the Euro coefficients. All the teams there just suck and with Barca struggling against teams like that they got no chance in europe. And dont even get me started on Madrid, United, City and PSG.

VIDEO REPLAYS FUCK YEAH !

+ Show Spoiler +
that was surprisingly fun, I see why people do it.
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-26 23:26:43
August 26 2012 23:25 GMT
#1386
Well that was cathartic, ps gratz on climbing the ranks this week in fantasy, my team is all over the shop.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-27 00:38:19
August 27 2012 00:37 GMT
#1387
On August 27 2012 08:25 sc4k wrote:
Well that was cathartic, ps gratz on climbing the ranks this week in fantasy, my team is all over the shop.


thanks,I think i said this before but to me the first few weeks is more of a lottery, To my mind there are literally 0 ways to accurately be able to establish how players are going to get you points without having atleast a month of football to look at.
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
August 27 2012 00:40 GMT
#1388
On other news, I can't believe PSG getting another draw...and goalless to top it all. But then again, the Man City project took a few seasons to get going...perhaps PSG are going the way of them rather than of Chelsea.
Craze
Profile Joined July 2010
United States561 Posts
August 27 2012 02:02 GMT
#1389
On August 27 2012 08:05 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 07:57 sc4k wrote:
The penalty came from a dive from Fabregas so it would have been unfair if it had been scored. And like I said, I accept that Chelsea get favourable calls and it pisses me off whenever we do. I reserve the right to criticise any team for shitty performances and criticise any ref for retarded calls because I don't act like they don't happen to us. It would all be solved if they just allowed (video replay) challenges like in NFL, cricket or tennis.


Ok then, I guess I'll do it to

Its really lame that Chelsea gets all these start calls all the fucking time. Practically brought Torres back into form with that bad call. Who knows how long he wouldve struggled if he didnt get the confidence from that shit shit offside goal. Now even poor Newcastle had to suffer because an illegal goal put a struggling striker in form. And Reading to, they were totally taking the game to Chelsea but then that terrible offside destroyed their spirit. Such a shame.

+ Show Spoiler +
that was surprisingly fun, I see why people do it.


Reading got tired. They're not as fit as Chelsea and it showed in the last 20 minutes of the game. Yes that call was horrible on Torres' goal, but its not like he doesn't know he was offside. This isn't FIFA12 where a game with a few goals ups your players form - his team is playing great and he's feeding off the energy. That is normal. With Hazard in there playing like he is even an off-form striker is going to get enough chances to convert a few.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
August 27 2012 05:29 GMT
#1390
--- Nuked ---
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18762 Posts
August 27 2012 06:29 GMT
#1391
On August 27 2012 08:05 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 07:57 sc4k wrote:
The penalty came from a dive from Fabregas so it would have been unfair if it had been scored. And like I said, I accept that Chelsea get favourable calls and it pisses me off whenever we do. I reserve the right to criticise any team for shitty performances and criticise any ref for retarded calls because I don't act like they don't happen to us. It would all be solved if they just allowed (video replay) challenges like in NFL, cricket or tennis.


Ok then, I guess I'll do it to

Its really lame that Chelsea gets all these start calls all the fucking time. Practically brought Torres back into form with that bad call. Who knows how long he wouldve struggled if he didnt get the confidence from that shit shit offside goal. Now even poor Newcastle had to suffer because an illegal goal put a struggling striker in form. And Reading to, they were totally taking the game to Chelsea but then that terrible offside destroyed their spirit. Such a shame.

Also Barca didnt deserve to win today they were so garbage. Busquets looked like a 1 legged hoofless donkey. Puyol needs leg braces and referees get paid to make them win. Now the title race is already fucking over. Such BS. Spain is just so bad. How did they manage to get that ranking in the Euro coefficients. All the teams there just suck and with Barca struggling against teams like that they got no chance in europe. And dont even get me started on Madrid, United, City and PSG.

VIDEO REPLAYS FUCK YEAH !

+ Show Spoiler +
that was surprisingly fun, I see why people do it.


what offside goal brought torres in form?
Stimp
Profile Joined November 2010
South Africa780 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-27 06:50:39
August 27 2012 06:42 GMT
#1392
Name one of Chelseas penalties which was favourable? They were all blatant. We also don't get some, like torres getting shoulder charged in the box.

The torres one, the guy pulls his leg back, is swinging it at torres' legs. Regardless of him pulling out, he pulled out far too late, any sane person would be jumping the hell out the way long before he decided to pull out. Its like flinching. If you saw that coming at you, you'd try and dodge. Thats why it was a pen, you can't look like you are going to kick the shit out of someone and then at the end be like 'lolz I wasn't really going to do it'.

And the offside: one call now all of a sudden chelsea can only win with favourable goals. If we never got that offside goal, who says we wouldn't still have gone on to win that game? what if. One goal doesn't make torres confident. He's scored before and it didn't help a jot. one offside goal won't change anything.
Don't count your apples before they've... grown
WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
August 27 2012 11:40 GMT
#1393
Modric sold finally. Now get spending AVB, please. Willian would be nice.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19389191
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-27 11:42:39
August 27 2012 11:41 GMT
#1394
On August 27 2012 14:29 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 09:37 Rebs wrote:
On August 27 2012 08:25 sc4k wrote:
Well that was cathartic, ps gratz on climbing the ranks this week in fantasy, my team is all over the shop.


thanks,I think i said this before but to me the first few weeks is more of a lottery, To my mind there are literally 0 ways to accurately be able to establish how players are going to get you points without having atleast a month of football to look at.


there's a decent way to pick players for gameweeks/just in general with limited info

1) opponents' level (are they versing QPR or Man City)
2) home or away?
3) future games and combinations of 1/2 (for longterm trade players)
4) watch first few games, see who gets the majority of chances at goals/passes regardless of result. they are bound to score eventually (unless they just suck which you can tell right away). especially defenders (6 points for goal, 3points for assists is sweet on top of an opportunity for clean sheets). these were the reasons why i traded for michu, dyer, assou-ekotto, vermaelen, and adebayor this week. all produced results cept adefailyor(gamble cuz he was assumed to become main scoring option but didnt see him playing in games).
5) tend to pick guys who are the main options. (ie. Tevez on MC because aguero is out, VanPersie on old arsenal, etc)
6) spend low on defenders, spend very high on midfielders, mid-high on forwards.
cheap defenders on good defending teams can get you 6points off cleansheets and thats more than good enough (last year newcastle + this year's swansea/everton). great midfielders are key as they give you 5points for goals and rack alot of assists. get the midfielders who score a decent amount and get the ball alot. for forwards just get 1 elite scorer if you can (9points and above) and whatever else you can afford. 4points per goal is just not that much and forwards don't get too much assists. the elite scorer should get you a lot of goals to make up for the lack of points per goals.

this has worked pretty well for me and have been generally successful, especially with trading.
last year I finished first and I believe my total team value was something like 102 because I got alot of points off trades (decreases overall team value the more you trade) and 2nd place had something like a value of 106.

im not really experienced with fantasy but this basic trading strategy has worked for me so far so just wanted to share what i know!


Thats all pretty standard but going into a season thats still no gaurantee. That method can mean anything between 30 and 90 points on any day in the first few weeks. Theres no substitute for being able to see them play. Thats why I said early on is a lottery, not later.
greggy
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom1483 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-27 12:12:17
August 27 2012 12:12 GMT
#1395
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19367435

tottenham offer £12.7m + clauses for m'vila


one of the clauses should be that he shaves that beard
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
August 27 2012 12:13 GMT
#1396
God damn it, Wnger. Don't let M'Vila go to Spurs when you're playing Diaby from start. Splash the cash.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
August 27 2012 12:26 GMT
#1397
On August 27 2012 15:29 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 08:05 Rebs wrote:
On August 27 2012 07:57 sc4k wrote:
The penalty came from a dive from Fabregas so it would have been unfair if it had been scored. And like I said, I accept that Chelsea get favourable calls and it pisses me off whenever we do. I reserve the right to criticise any team for shitty performances and criticise any ref for retarded calls because I don't act like they don't happen to us. It would all be solved if they just allowed (video replay) challenges like in NFL, cricket or tennis.


Ok then, I guess I'll do it to

Its really lame that Chelsea gets all these start calls all the fucking time. Practically brought Torres back into form with that bad call. Who knows how long he wouldve struggled if he didnt get the confidence from that shit shit offside goal. Now even poor Newcastle had to suffer because an illegal goal put a struggling striker in form. And Reading to, they were totally taking the game to Chelsea but then that terrible offside destroyed their spirit. Such a shame.

Also Barca didnt deserve to win today they were so garbage. Busquets looked like a 1 legged hoofless donkey. Puyol needs leg braces and referees get paid to make them win. Now the title race is already fucking over. Such BS. Spain is just so bad. How did they manage to get that ranking in the Euro coefficients. All the teams there just suck and with Barca struggling against teams like that they got no chance in europe. And dont even get me started on Madrid, United, City and PSG.

VIDEO REPLAYS FUCK YEAH !

+ Show Spoiler +
that was surprisingly fun, I see why people do it.


what offside goal brought torres in form?


he thinks the offside goal against reading suddenly made torres confidence go from 40% to 110%
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-27 13:13:03
August 27 2012 12:58 GMT
#1398
On August 27 2012 21:12 greggy wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19367435

tottenham offer £12.7m + clauses for m'vila


one of the clauses should be that he shaves that beard

Hmm, seems a bit cheap, isn't he tipped to be the next Viera?

Another thing to note, Spurs have signed a long-term partnership deal with Madrid, along with the Modric deal.
AIOL!
Profile Joined January 2011
France962 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-27 13:37:24
August 27 2012 13:30 GMT
#1399
On August 27 2012 21:13 NuclearJudas wrote:
God damn it, Wnger. Don't let M'Vila go to Spurs when you're playing Diaby from start. Splash the cash.


Don't talk about things you donn't know. I can't even understand how a football game can overhype a player. I watch him play every weeks and 1 thing i can tell you: he's not worth 20M. This player just has a solid long range pass, nothing special beside this, his technical abilities are not even good. I can tell you for exemple Verratti is like 100 times better.

Everywhere on the internet i see M'Vila quoted as: "fuck X, why don't you take M'vila he is so good he wants to leave!!" This is just mindblowing.
2 players i can tell you to follow: Etienne Capoue, the Toulouse midfielder, like way more technical than M'vila, very solid and verry physical. He's like a Diaby without the injuries.

Rio Mavuba, Lille Defensive midfielder, same profile as M'vila except he is better, more technical and less overhyped so less expensive.
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tekos44
Profile Joined June 2011
France280 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-27 13:49:58
August 27 2012 13:44 GMT
#1400
On August 27 2012 22:30 AIOL! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 21:13 NuclearJudas wrote:
God damn it, Wnger. Don't let M'Vila go to Spurs when you're playing Diaby from start. Splash the cash.


Don't talk about things you donn't know. I can't even understand how a football game can overhype a player. I watch him play every weeks and 1 thing i can tell you: he's not worth 20M. This player just has a solid long range pass, nothing special beside this, his technical abilities are not even good. I can tell you for exemple Verratti is like 100 times better.

Everywhere on the internet i see M'Vila quoted as: "fuck X, why don't you take M'vila he is so good he wants to leave!!" This is just mindblowing.
2 players i can tell you to follow: Etienne Capoue, the Toulouse midfielder, like way more technical than M'vila, very solid and verry physical. He's like a Diaby without the injuries.

Rio Mavuba, Lille Defensive midfielder, same profile as M'vila except he is better, more technical and less overhyped so less expensive.


Same here, i dont really understand the hype around Mvila. He played 2 good games with France during the Euro qualifiers, at that time he was something like the iconic figure of Blanc's new french team (young, playing in ligue 1, kinda cool guy) after WC 2010
But he never really impressed in Ligue 1 and barely played 5 games in EL. Btw there's been less hype around him for about a year in France, people seem to realize he his just average.
Whatever, 13m€ is a good deal for Rennes, imo
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