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phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-22 17:48:16
September 22 2012 17:48 GMT
#6641
Was writing a paper today, and I lost track of time, so I missed my ride to our rugby matches. Sartre is srs bsns.


Was all pumped for the games too. Going to head to the gym and take my anger out on my lifts.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20173 Posts
September 22 2012 20:16 GMT
#6642
Stupid. We won our game 36-17 over our rivals. Ran train all game long, took two people out of the game that were playing defense on me.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-22 21:41:44
September 22 2012 21:41 GMT
#6643
This is actually bye-week anyway, we just scheduled two non league games for the hell of it, and because we have 25 new players this season that need play time.
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
September 22 2012 22:38 GMT
#6644
I tried shrugging today, and its completely undoable without straps. I did 140kgx5x9, and like 70x30 but had to stop because my hands just couldn't hand it. I can see myself doing 300x10x10 with straps. Still, great way to train grip. Also tried reverse barbell curls, another good way to strength grip. Gonna do it after deadlifts on saturdays.

PS: Decaf quit rugby, become klokov.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20173 Posts
September 23 2012 00:50 GMT
#6645
On September 23 2012 07:38 GoTuNk! wrote:
I tried shrugging today, and its completely undoable without straps. I did 140kgx5x9, and like 70x30 but had to stop because my hands just couldn't hand it. I can see myself doing 300x10x10 with straps. Still, great way to train grip. Also tried reverse barbell curls, another good way to strength grip. Gonna do it after deadlifts on saturdays.

PS: Decaf quit rugby, become klokov.

Haha physically I'm designed to be a much better rugby player than lifter. I I have the opposite body type of a good lifter.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
September 23 2012 02:58 GMT
#6646
On September 23 2012 09:50 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 07:38 GoTuNk! wrote:
I tried shrugging today, and its completely undoable without straps. I did 140kgx5x9, and like 70x30 but had to stop because my hands just couldn't hand it. I can see myself doing 300x10x10 with straps. Still, great way to train grip. Also tried reverse barbell curls, another good way to strength grip. Gonna do it after deadlifts on saturdays.

PS: Decaf quit rugby, become klokov.

Haha physically I'm designed to be a much better rugby player than lifter. I I have the opposite body type of a good lifter.


Excuses :'(
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
September 23 2012 04:09 GMT
#6647
What exactly is a good "composition" for a lifter? I'm assuming its to do with bone structure?
DimmuKlok
Profile Joined June 2010
United States225 Posts
September 23 2012 04:31 GMT
#6648
On September 22 2012 16:23 Malinor wrote:
The dogma must stay alive! Burn them all!

I really want to get my 8th rep for chin-ups in today. That is my goal for september (one rep more each month until I can do 10 consecutive chin-ups). I should have been good for it last week, but for some unknown reason my weight went up above 110kg for one day, and I just felt tired. But this morning I am at 107kg flat, so that should help. Though I did 5 sets of Wall-Handstands yesterday and I am not entirely sure how much this carries over to chin-ups. Well, I'll hope for the best.

Damn Malinor, you're such a boss :D

Keep up the great work man, you're a big inspiration.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20173 Posts
September 23 2012 05:27 GMT
#6649
On September 23 2012 13:09 ShadeR wrote:
What exactly is a good "composition" for a lifter? I'm assuming its to do with bone structure?

There are certain heights and weights for maximal efficiency in addition to limb/torso length. I have great leverage on the Snatch and for pulling but the squatting and jerk is pretty brutal
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
reddog1999
Profile Joined June 2009
United States143 Posts
September 23 2012 05:40 GMT
#6650
Prob won't keep up on this here, but after a long time out of the gym I am finally back in it 2 months strong! Goodluck and keep motivated it only gets easier.
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
September 23 2012 07:22 GMT
#6651
On September 23 2012 14:27 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 13:09 ShadeR wrote:
What exactly is a good "composition" for a lifter? I'm assuming its to do with bone structure?

There are certain heights and weights for maximal efficiency in addition to limb/torso length. I have great leverage on the Snatch and for pulling but the squatting and jerk is pretty brutal


I'm not built to be either one ( although I should be a pretty decent deadlifter) but I do both, three times a week. You tell me not to be a bitch - keep pushing your limits decaf. I want to see a 220 squat out of you.
NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands1242 Posts
September 23 2012 10:52 GMT
#6652
On September 23 2012 16:22 phyre112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 14:27 decafchicken wrote:
On September 23 2012 13:09 ShadeR wrote:
What exactly is a good "composition" for a lifter? I'm assuming its to do with bone structure?

There are certain heights and weights for maximal efficiency in addition to limb/torso length. I have great leverage on the Snatch and for pulling but the squatting and jerk is pretty brutal


I'm not built to be either one ( although I should be a pretty decent deadlifter) but I do both, three times a week. You tell me not to be a bitch - keep pushing your limits decaf. I want to see a 220 squat out of you.

I don't think it's physically possible for decaf to bitch his way down to our level.
Get huge or die mirin | Diamond on LoL
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
September 23 2012 12:11 GMT
#6653
@Decaf: Gj on that snatch pr and qualifying!

Keep up the good work lads
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20173 Posts
September 23 2012 23:52 GMT
#6654
On September 23 2012 16:22 phyre112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 14:27 decafchicken wrote:
On September 23 2012 13:09 ShadeR wrote:
What exactly is a good "composition" for a lifter? I'm assuming its to do with bone structure?

There are certain heights and weights for maximal efficiency in addition to limb/torso length. I have great leverage on the Snatch and for pulling but the squatting and jerk is pretty brutal


I'm not built to be either one ( although I should be a pretty decent deadlifter) but I do both, three times a week. You tell me not to be a bitch - keep pushing your limits decaf. I want to see a 220 squat out of you.


I've already increased my total 25kg this year while playing the best rugby i ever have ~~ I don't think pushing my limits is the issue here. Also, my body feels like it got ran over by a train after yesterdays game, I guess crashing the ball into 2-3 people 20 times will do that. Hope i get some video of me literally throwing a kid to the ground with a stiff arm and jumping over him :D Should probably get vids of my meet up on youtube this week too.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
September 24 2012 00:15 GMT
#6655
On September 24 2012 08:52 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 16:22 phyre112 wrote:
On September 23 2012 14:27 decafchicken wrote:
On September 23 2012 13:09 ShadeR wrote:
What exactly is a good "composition" for a lifter? I'm assuming its to do with bone structure?

There are certain heights and weights for maximal efficiency in addition to limb/torso length. I have great leverage on the Snatch and for pulling but the squatting and jerk is pretty brutal


I'm not built to be either one ( although I should be a pretty decent deadlifter) but I do both, three times a week. You tell me not to be a bitch - keep pushing your limits decaf. I want to see a 220 squat out of you.


I've already increased my total 25kg this year while playing the best rugby i ever have ~~ I don't think pushing my limits is the issue here. Also, my body feels like it got ran over by a train after yesterdays game, I guess crashing the ball into 2-3 people 20 times will do that. Hope i get some video of me literally throwing a kid to the ground with a stiff arm and jumping over him :D Should probably get vids of my meet up on youtube this week too.


Ya, but you seem to enjoy activities that take longer than 10 secs to perform and therefore you are a pussy :p
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
September 24 2012 02:15 GMT
#6656
On September 24 2012 09:15 GoTuNk! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2012 08:52 decafchicken wrote:
On September 23 2012 16:22 phyre112 wrote:
On September 23 2012 14:27 decafchicken wrote:
On September 23 2012 13:09 ShadeR wrote:
What exactly is a good "composition" for a lifter? I'm assuming its to do with bone structure?

There are certain heights and weights for maximal efficiency in addition to limb/torso length. I have great leverage on the Snatch and for pulling but the squatting and jerk is pretty brutal


I'm not built to be either one ( although I should be a pretty decent deadlifter) but I do both, three times a week. You tell me not to be a bitch - keep pushing your limits decaf. I want to see a 220 squat out of you.


I've already increased my total 25kg this year while playing the best rugby i ever have ~~ I don't think pushing my limits is the issue here. Also, my body feels like it got ran over by a train after yesterdays game, I guess crashing the ball into 2-3 people 20 times will do that. Hope i get some video of me literally throwing a kid to the ground with a stiff arm and jumping over him :D Should probably get vids of my meet up on youtube this week too.


Ya, but you seem to enjoy activities that take longer than 10 secs to perform and therefore you are a pussy :p


nah, he's a back. They run for ten seconds, get reset, and then wait for five minutes to run again. It's a lot like lifting.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20173 Posts
September 24 2012 03:17 GMT
#6657
That'd be true if I didn't have to compensate for our lack of athletic and conditioned forwards T_T
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
mcmartini
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1972 Posts
September 24 2012 10:16 GMT
#6658
I have just hit a mental wall. Someone uploaded a recent photo of me to Facebook from An engagement party and talking to my mum on the phone and she asked if it was a recent photo or an old one. I immediately knew she was asking cause I looked terrible, and I did I hated the photo. It was just a real big hit mentally. For months since starting SS been eating hard and all my lifts have been going up so I felt good. Well now I feel like shit. I feel like I'm not losing any weight anymore and just stagnating even going slightly up and I was fooling myself thinking it was muscle gain because of my lifts going up.

Sigh, birthday was on the weekend had some drinks for it. Didn't miss a gym session and
Now this. Fucking sigh. Should feel good today finally hitting 120kg squat. But instead I feel like I've taken 10 steps back. Missed my goal of under 100kg by my Bday (thought it was because of the muscle gain for SS) but I realise now that was just my mind giving shit excuses. I leave for Canada on the 10th dec to meet my gf's parents and I want to make a good impression but I'm feeling incredibly demotivated now Sigh. Time to pick it back up
I just want to say I have 370 APM - Liquid'Tyler SotG 14-12-2011 "I mean it's too bad you can't be paid to be, you know, a chicken shit fucking whiny bitch on the internet or we would have lots of rich community members" Nick "Tasteless" Plott
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
September 24 2012 11:28 GMT
#6659
On September 24 2012 19:16 mcmartini wrote:
I have just hit a mental wall. Someone uploaded a recent photo of me to Facebook from An engagement party and talking to my mum on the phone and she asked if it was a recent photo or an old one. I immediately knew she was asking cause I looked terrible, and I did I hated the photo. It was just a real big hit mentally. For months since starting SS been eating hard and all my lifts have been going up so I felt good. Well now I feel like shit. I feel like I'm not losing any weight anymore and just stagnating even going slightly up and I was fooling myself thinking it was muscle gain because of my lifts going up.

Sigh, birthday was on the weekend had some drinks for it. Didn't miss a gym session and
Now this. Fucking sigh. Should feel good today finally hitting 120kg squat. But instead I feel like I've taken 10 steps back. Missed my goal of under 100kg by my Bday (thought it was because of the muscle gain for SS) but I realise now that was just my mind giving shit excuses. I leave for Canada on the 10th dec to meet my gf's parents and I want to make a good impression but I'm feeling incredibly demotivated now Sigh. Time to pick it back up


Just keep up the heavy lifting, and start to cut 500 kcal/day
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
September 24 2012 11:50 GMT
#6660
On September 24 2012 19:16 mcmartini wrote:
I have just hit a mental wall. Someone uploaded a recent photo of me to Facebook from An engagement party and talking to my mum on the phone and she asked if it was a recent photo or an old one. I immediately knew she was asking cause I looked terrible, and I did I hated the photo. It was just a real big hit mentally. For months since starting SS been eating hard and all my lifts have been going up so I felt good. Well now I feel like shit. I feel like I'm not losing any weight anymore and just stagnating even going slightly up and I was fooling myself thinking it was muscle gain because of my lifts going up.

Sigh, birthday was on the weekend had some drinks for it. Didn't miss a gym session and
Now this. Fucking sigh. Should feel good today finally hitting 120kg squat. But instead I feel like I've taken 10 steps back. Missed my goal of under 100kg by my Bday (thought it was because of the muscle gain for SS) but I realise now that was just my mind giving shit excuses. I leave for Canada on the 10th dec to meet my gf's parents and I want to make a good impression but I'm feeling incredibly demotivated now Sigh. Time to pick it back up

Considering that you've gone up from squatting 35kg to 120kg in a few months, you've definitely built muscle. If you think back to it, your body in March could not have squatted 120kg, no matter how badly you tried. In fact, chances are you would have been snapped like a twig if you tried it back in March. So no matter what else has changed, you've definitely built a lot of muscle.

What is unfortunate, however, is that at a 100kg bodyweight, chances are you won't see muscle by just squatting 120kg. The guys on here that weigh a muscular 100kg all squat really heavy weights. It's not the end of the world, it just means that good things don't come easily or quickly. When I started lifting about a year ago, I hoped to be able to see the muscles after three months, be nicely muscled after six months and really well built after a year. It's been a year now and I'm only starting to see the muscles. That said, I look good and feel even better. I also just love the lifting, which is a big part of it for me.

I think your biggest mistake, if you made one, was not setting weight-loss targets when you started lifting. I checked your first post i this thread now and you wanted to eat better but didn't have any specific weight goals. You should change that and start working towards a goal. As I mentioned, it's not going to be quick or easy. You'll need to track your calories and aim to eat at a deficit of 3500 calories a week which will lose you 2kg a month. That means, after 6 months you'll lose 12kg which would be a great start. You can also continue building muscle during this time by sticking to SS (or maybe modifying it a tiny bit to account for the calorie deficit), but progress will be slightly slower than if you ate normally.

In the end, just like with the weightlifting, losing weight is just a case of working consistently, in an organised fashion, towards a goal. Good luck and don't give up hope!
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