TL Health and Fitness Initiative 2012 - Page 116

On March 12 2012 22:59 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
@Daigomi Rip does NOT recommend all lifts starting at 20kg. He recommends starting each set of warmups with the empty bar, as in even if you're gonna go for a 300pounds bench you warmup with the empty bar. He thinks your starting weight for the very first damn session should be when form starts breaking down/the weight slows down considerably. It's still low, but for most adult males that's going to be like a 60-70kg deadlift at least.

On March 12 2012 23:11 Raidern wrote:
I started to run on the same days as my workout days (Mon-Wed-Fri). I *think* that doing that I still allow a free day to help my body recover. I'm starting slow and adding 100m after each session, so 300m a week. I noticed that, understandably, I'm feeling considerably more tired than when I didn't run. I'm not concerned at all about halting bodyweight gains, but I'm worried about having a harder time adding weight to my lifts.

Now my questions are:

* What's better, running on the same days as weightlifting workouts, or the day after?
* Is there something I should do to help ease the soreness on my legs, like massage or stretching after running? I especially feel a discomfort on the backside of legs, close to the knees.

Thanks

On March 13 2012 01:36 Pulimuli wrote:
tried some running yesterday, first time in almost 3 years, felt good but goddamn it hurts everywhere today ^^ did 5km then it felt like my lunges were going to break and my legs were gelly

On March 13 2012 03:09 GoTuNk! wrote:
I burned out, was just too tired to do all my squats set. Last week of smolov btw.

Squat: 152.5kgx5, x2, x5.

So I just did 2 reps on 2nd set and decided to man up a last set of 5. It was just too much. Didn't fail any rep, but I almost passed out and the pain was fucking unbearable.
Weekend of bad sleep/not enough food/stress took its toll on me.

I'm still confident I can just ignore this and do the supposed volume for wednesday/saturday and go for the 200kg squat next saturday. Looking foward to it

On March 13 2012 03:25 funkie wrote:
I almost passed out on my friday morning workout.

I went to the gym without eating anything, and well, I started with squats (125kg x 3 x 5), then I proceeded to do some Press and then Bench (my workout got completely fucked, made no fucking sense). By the time I was walking home, I felt nauseaous, and a bit "numb". I got home and I felt this weakness inside of me. I went to have lunch with my parents but I felt weak still, guess my sugar levels went too "down"? maybe?.

I ate, and went for grocery shopping, still feeling pretty weak. when I got back home, I slept for a bit, and woke up a lot better. I guess I just needed a bit of rest. Still one of those things that I don't want to experience it again.

If I go to the gym today, I'll go and Squat my 125kg or 130, We'll see.

Gogo me, time to not give up.

On March 12 2012 23:27 Daigomi wrote:

My mistake. It seems like I got SL and SS mixed up. In that case, I agree with Lemons on this. Asking absolute beginners to start on their 5RM with an exercise that's got a reasonable risk of injury, when they have no real experience doing that exercise, is simply begging for an injury. I much prefer SL's approach of starting with the bar and working yourself up to your 5RM over the first few weeks. It gives you a few sessions to learn proper technique and ensures that all the small stabilising muscles are ready for the heavier weights once you get there. Of course, if you have a proper trainer ensuring that your technique is correct it's a different story, but I'm guessing that's not the case for most people.

On March 13 2012 03:36 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:

I really feel that you can start with a 50kg deadlift for most adult males and have a stupidly low chance of having them injure themselves. With proper form the right muscles will be strenghtened sooner, leading to more safety in the long run. Deadlift form is pretty easy if you actually follow good advice (Rip/Tate/Bolton whatever), assuming you aren't trying to pulling WR's and even then I think it isn't as mechanically challenging as say Snatching or Squatting.

On March 13 2012 03:41 Deadeight wrote:



I think you're right. I've taught a few people to deadlift and unlike squats people don't really do the technique correctly with just a bar. You need some weight to really understand it I feel.

On March 13 2012 03:39 Deadeight wrote:
Bugger. I've got Patellar Tendonitis in my knee.

I've had it once before and went to the doctors. I had Osgood Schlatters when I was younger and the doctor told me I may have had some bone fragment off and be in the tendon. My bike broke so I've been running to and from uni the past week or two and I'm pretty sure that's caused it.

I guess I have to stop squats for a while Hurts too much to squat anyway, missed mine today.

On March 13 2012 01:49 solidbebe wrote:


Have you done any kind of exercise for those 3 years? Because running 5km with no exercise for 3 years is pretty impressive.

On March 13 2012 04:28 sJarl wrote:


If that is the case you aren't going to get better. This shit doesn't heal on it's own. Struggled with it for over 2 years until I had it operated on. Also, squats aren't the problem really. Running is.

On March 12 2012 23:11 Raidern wrote:
I started to run on the same days as my workout days (Mon-Wed-Fri). I *think* that doing that I still allow a free day to help my body recover. I'm starting slow and adding 100m after each session, so 300m a week. I noticed that, understandably, I'm feeling considerably more tired than when I didn't run. I'm not concerned at all about halting bodyweight gains, but I'm worried about having a harder time adding weight to my lifts.

Now my questions are:

* What's better, running on the same days as weightlifting workouts, or the day after?
* Is there something I should do to help ease the soreness on my legs, like massage or stretching after running? I especially feel a discomfort on the backside of legs, close to the knees.

Thanks