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Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
April 08 2013 02:05 GMT
#461
^try the nutrition or the general thread?

there was a googledoc posted somewhere researched by some dude on reddit, i think Optimum Nutrition was deemed as one of the best. I've been using ON for 4 years, no complaints.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
April 08 2013 03:43 GMT
#462
Thanks cambium, I'll check it out.
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
April 08 2013 05:56 GMT
#463
found it for you

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ag9uT-E4EIL7dFZPZnR0WVZybGtFWnRKNzdKNm9XOVE#gid=0
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
4thHatchery
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Finland125 Posts
April 08 2013 07:16 GMT
#464
On April 08 2013 07:16 mordek wrote:
60 second skin the cat hang. Taking the progression slower. Next working towards 60s back lever tuck.

God damn my flu. I would have joined you on this quest for BL now that you started over again. My arm has been painless for a while now and after a month's break I got a whopping 4 workouts before I'm out of comission again.
MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-13 19:45:57
April 08 2013 10:28 GMT
#465
On April 08 2013 16:16 4thHatchery wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2013 07:16 mordek wrote:
60 second skin the cat hang. Taking the progression slower. Next working towards 60s back lever tuck.

God damn my flu. I would have joined you on this quest for BL now that you started over again. My arm has been painless for a while now and after a month's break I got a whopping 4 workouts before I'm out of comission again.

The flu is awful. Had it once, got a 106 fever and was sick for a week straight. Tamaflu also doesn't help, since that stuff messes you up soooo bad. Hope your flu isn't too severe and that you get better soon.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
April 08 2013 12:44 GMT
#466
On April 08 2013 16:16 4thHatchery wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2013 07:16 mordek wrote:
60 second skin the cat hang. Taking the progression slower. Next working towards 60s back lever tuck.

God damn my flu. I would have joined you on this quest for BL now that you started over again. My arm has been painless for a while now and after a month's break I got a whopping 4 workouts before I'm out of comission again.

Bummer I got a bad cold a few week's ago and coming out of it was when my arm/shoulder got strained. Hope you recover quickly!
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
April 09 2013 04:04 GMT
#467
Yesterday was my first day at the gym, I might get addicted to it. I really like the environment.

Thanks again Cambium for all the help
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
-VapidSlug-
Profile Joined June 2012
United States108 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-16 14:08:50
April 16 2013 14:06 GMT
#468
On April 08 2013 09:26 puppykiller wrote:
I'm sure this gets asked from time to time in the thread but I don't see anything related to it in the op.

What is a cost effective protein powder? I've seen such a range in prices and I can't base a decision off of the advertising and online reviews (which are often fake!). Can anyone here make an informed recommendation on which ones are most worth purchasing for cost effectiveness.


Honestly, if you want an effective powder, go with a weight gain powder. The intake of massive amounts of protein to cause muscle gain is a myth as excess protein is excess calories--that is it. A weight gain powder provides you with those excess calories for a lot less money.
Rotting organs ripping grinding, Biological discordance, Birthday equals self abhorrence, Years keep passing aging always, Mutate into vapid slugs
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
May 20 2013 12:06 GMT
#469
Getting back on the horse. Been totally without a routine for the last month or two trying to figure out my back rehab and just other life stuff. I got two friends hooked on bw training recently and joined them this morning. Training partners definitely help. We'll see if I can still get to my goals by the end of the year
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
May 20 2013 13:24 GMT
#470
On May 20 2013 21:06 mordek wrote:
Getting back on the horse. Been totally without a routine for the last month or two trying to figure out my back rehab and just other life stuff. I got two friends hooked on bw training recently and joined them this morning. Training partners definitely help. We'll see if I can still get to my goals by the end of the year


Yeah, generally its more fun training with people around.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-30 12:31:07
May 30 2013 12:15 GMT
#471
So after not doing anything beyond pull/chin-ups for 2 months, which I'm ashamed to say after looking at my log, I pr'd my L-sit with 3 sets of 20s.

My friend is having trouble with L-sit. His legs externally rotate pretty drastically and has trouble keeping his legs straight. Doesn't have this issue when doing the V exercise trying to pull knees to face with legs straight... can't remember what it's called in OG. I told him external rotators probably really tight and hamstrings are inflexible. Advised him to stretch those but curious if there's something else he should be working on.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Schwopzi
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands954 Posts
May 30 2013 12:58 GMT
#472
On May 30 2013 21:15 mordek wrote:
So after not doing anything beyond pull/chin-ups for 2 months, which I'm ashamed to say after looking at my log, I pr'd my L-sit with 3 sets of 20s.

My friend is having trouble with L-sit. His legs externally rotate pretty drastically and has trouble keeping his legs straight. Doesn't have this issue when doing the V exercise trying to pull knees to face with legs straight... can't remember what it's called in OG. I told him external rotators probably really tight and hamstrings are inflexible. Advised him to stretch those but curious if there's something else he should be working on.


I had big problems keeping legs straight at first as well. Does your friend get muscle contractions in his upper legs as well when trying to l-sit straight?
What i did was buy 2 push up support thingies that you can put on the floor raising your body ~10 cm. This way I could start l-sit progression while having some leeway (or w./e the word is) in the angle for raising my legs. Took me about a month to get past the muscle contractions. Didn't do any specific stretches for more mobility.
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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
May 30 2013 13:06 GMT
#473
On May 30 2013 21:58 Schwopzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2013 21:15 mordek wrote:
So after not doing anything beyond pull/chin-ups for 2 months, which I'm ashamed to say after looking at my log, I pr'd my L-sit with 3 sets of 20s.

My friend is having trouble with L-sit. His legs externally rotate pretty drastically and has trouble keeping his legs straight. Doesn't have this issue when doing the V exercise trying to pull knees to face with legs straight... can't remember what it's called in OG. I told him external rotators probably really tight and hamstrings are inflexible. Advised him to stretch those but curious if there's something else he should be working on.


I had big problems keeping legs straight at first as well. Does your friend get muscle contractions in his upper legs as well when trying to l-sit straight?
What i did was buy 2 push up support thingies that you can put on the floor raising your body ~10 cm. This way I could start l-sit progression while having some leeway (or w./e the word is) in the angle for raising my legs. Took me about a month to get past the muscle contractions. Didn't do any specific stretches for more mobility.

Leeway is correctly used

I think his quads cramp up yeah. I have the same thing too though. I just foam roll them and stretch my hip flexors and that helps. I'll suggest elevating himself and working from there.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
May 31 2013 02:56 GMT
#474
You can also use 2 chairs or tables to elevate the legs.

Cramping is normal -- isometric contractions cut off blood flow to the muscle, and the ATP runs out and shorter muscle means more cross bridges of myosin and action = more cramping. ATP is needed to unbind the myosin head so if you run out of energy (like when you are fatigued or no blood flow) the muscle will keep contracting = cramping.


My friend is having trouble with L-sit. His legs externally rotate pretty drastically and has trouble keeping his legs straight. Doesn't have this issue when doing the V exercise trying to pull knees to face with legs straight... can't remember what it's called in OG. I told him external rotators probably really tight and hamstrings are inflexible. Advised him to stretch those but curious if there's something else he should be working on.


People can have issues with flexibility in active positions but not with compression. It's not unheard of.

Typically external rotation of the legs means that the hip flexors are working (iliopsoas externally rotates the leg) more than the abdominal muscles... so some specific abdominal strengthening may be needed.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
andrrew321
Profile Joined May 2013
India1 Post
May 31 2013 04:04 GMT
#475
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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
May 31 2013 11:23 GMT
#476
On May 31 2013 11:56 eshlow wrote:
You can also use 2 chairs or tables to elevate the legs.

Cramping is normal -- isometric contractions cut off blood flow to the muscle, and the ATP runs out and shorter muscle means more cross bridges of myosin and action = more cramping. ATP is needed to unbind the myosin head so if you run out of energy (like when you are fatigued or no blood flow) the muscle will keep contracting = cramping.

Show nested quote +

My friend is having trouble with L-sit. His legs externally rotate pretty drastically and has trouble keeping his legs straight. Doesn't have this issue when doing the V exercise trying to pull knees to face with legs straight... can't remember what it's called in OG. I told him external rotators probably really tight and hamstrings are inflexible. Advised him to stretch those but curious if there's something else he should be working on.


People can have issues with flexibility in active positions but not with compression. It's not unheard of.

Typically external rotation of the legs means that the hip flexors are working (iliopsoas externally rotates the leg) more than the abdominal muscles... so some specific abdominal strengthening may be needed.

Thanks! Any specific ab exercises? I'm assuming ones that inhibit the hip flexors from doing the work? My abs always feel it when I'm doing my pelvic tilt exercises, that's what comes to mind.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
May 31 2013 12:30 GMT
#477
On May 31 2013 20:23 mordek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2013 11:56 eshlow wrote:
You can also use 2 chairs or tables to elevate the legs.

Cramping is normal -- isometric contractions cut off blood flow to the muscle, and the ATP runs out and shorter muscle means more cross bridges of myosin and action = more cramping. ATP is needed to unbind the myosin head so if you run out of energy (like when you are fatigued or no blood flow) the muscle will keep contracting = cramping.


My friend is having trouble with L-sit. His legs externally rotate pretty drastically and has trouble keeping his legs straight. Doesn't have this issue when doing the V exercise trying to pull knees to face with legs straight... can't remember what it's called in OG. I told him external rotators probably really tight and hamstrings are inflexible. Advised him to stretch those but curious if there's something else he should be working on.


People can have issues with flexibility in active positions but not with compression. It's not unheard of.

Typically external rotation of the legs means that the hip flexors are working (iliopsoas externally rotates the leg) more than the abdominal muscles... so some specific abdominal strengthening may be needed.

Thanks! Any specific ab exercises? I'm assuming ones that inhibit the hip flexors from doing the work? My abs always feel it when I'm doing my pelvic tilt exercises, that's what comes to mind.

GHD situps are pretty good... hanging leg raises if you tilt the pelvis first. Perhaps use the rings as an ab wheel as well
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
eLyx
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany54 Posts
June 07 2013 18:21 GMT
#478
First of all I want to thank you, eshlow, for advising me here in the forum and say that your book overcoming gravity was not only very helpful in establishing a workout for myself, but also just generally interesting, informative and enjoyable to read!

I already have made some great progress, considering where i was when i first started, but I also could have made more if I was more diligent. So after I felt like I plateued a little I took a week off (worked on my Handstands some more which I have to admit I neglected to much and some mobility work) and will start again on Sunday with new focus. (I write this in part to keep myself accountable )

Saturday I will do some Max testing and then it's going to be a 3day/week Fullbody Routine Su / Tue / Thur:

Wall Headstandpushups
Rows
RTO Pushups
Pullups
Bodyweight Squats (working towards Pistols)

Also I am going to start eating more aka trying to put on some weight. At the moment I am at 179cm (which I think is 5'11) and 77.8kg (171.5 lbs) at roughly 17-18% bodyfat. I feel like I could look pretty good dropping more bodyfat now but have the potential to look even better if I add some more muscle first which is kinda getting hard without a calorie surplus at this point, but that is more for a different thread I guess.

So here's to a good "new" start! Thanks again and Cheers!

eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
June 08 2013 03:04 GMT
#479
On June 08 2013 03:21 eLyx wrote:
First of all I want to thank you, eshlow, for advising me here in the forum and say that your book overcoming gravity was not only very helpful in establishing a workout for myself, but also just generally interesting, informative and enjoyable to read!

I already have made some great progress, considering where i was when i first started, but I also could have made more if I was more diligent. So after I felt like I plateued a little I took a week off (worked on my Handstands some more which I have to admit I neglected to much and some mobility work) and will start again on Sunday with new focus. (I write this in part to keep myself accountable )

Saturday I will do some Max testing and then it's going to be a 3day/week Fullbody Routine Su / Tue / Thur:

Wall Headstandpushups
Rows
RTO Pushups
Pullups
Bodyweight Squats (working towards Pistols)

Also I am going to start eating more aka trying to put on some weight. At the moment I am at 179cm (which I think is 5'11) and 77.8kg (171.5 lbs) at roughly 17-18% bodyfat. I feel like I could look pretty good dropping more bodyfat now but have the potential to look even better if I add some more muscle first which is kinda getting hard without a calorie surplus at this point, but that is more for a different thread I guess.

So here's to a good "new" start! Thanks again and Cheers!



Awesome. Just be consistent and you will get good progress!
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
June 08 2013 18:44 GMT
#480
Handstands are a funny thing. Feeling pretty good balancing pushing off a wall handstand and holding. Then I go and workout with friends and they're like you're way too bent (this is with kicking up). I didn't think it felt that bad and then they took a picture. lol. like the letter C. Gotta work on that sensory feedback or something. I think looking at the ground is not helping?
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
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