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Recognizable
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Netherlands1552 Posts
August 19 2013 18:38 GMT
#501
I just can't seem to do a handstand for longer than 2/3 seconds. How do you keep your balance?
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
August 19 2013 18:47 GMT
#502
http://chrissalvato.com/2013/05/28-day-handstand-challenge/?utm_source=challenge-post&utm_medium=reddit&utm_campaign=28-Day Challenge - EMI Announcement

It used to be hosted on eatmoveimprove but I guess it split off. Anyway, it's just a lot of practice and repetition Other sources can give a lot more information/more accurate information than I so I won't go into technique.
Recognizable
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Netherlands1552 Posts
August 19 2013 18:52 GMT
#503
I figured. I just have to do them a fuck ton I guess. A 2 second freestanding hold is already pretty good apparently. I'd like to hit at least 30 seconds. Gotta work on that balance .
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
August 19 2013 18:54 GMT
#504
I agree it feels like your not accomplishing anything just holding it 2 seconds at a time. I preferr pushing off the wall but my handstan still sucks so that doesnt say much. I really just lack the consistant practice it takes.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
August 19 2013 19:55 GMT
#505
Be really careful about the way that you hold yourself while trying to do freestanding handstands. Accidentally falling is way safer if you have your back to the wall. Fell over and managed to dislocate my shoulder a few months ago because I wasn't doing that.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
August 19 2013 19:58 GMT
#506
If you practice rolling out of handstands it's better to do it that way though. As far as I know. (Also relieved back pain from the other way, face out, causing me to hyperextend my back automatically.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
August 19 2013 21:47 GMT
#507
On August 20 2013 03:47 Najda wrote:
http://chrissalvato.com/2013/05/28-day-handstand-challenge/?utm_source=challenge-post&utm_medium=reddit&utm_campaign=28-Day Challenge - EMI Announcement

It used to be hosted on eatmoveimprove but I guess it split off. Anyway, it's just a lot of practice and repetition Other sources can give a lot more information/more accurate information than I so I won't go into technique.


Yeah, Chris has decided to pursue his own business ventures (namely the HS article and thus the HS stuff was moved there) but he is still part of EMI.

Regardless, yeah the HS article is a good way for people to get started.

And yes, for those doing stomach to wall learn to roll out or how to bail before doing any extended work in HS
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
ticki
Profile Joined December 2010
56 Posts
September 02 2013 17:51 GMT
#508
Is bodyweight training something that a beginner can get into in his college dormroom? I have a pullup bar and that's about it. I've noticed that I need additional equipment for exercises such as the l-sit or the backlever. Is bodyweight training something that could be done with simply exercises like the handstand, pushups, pullups, etc? What are other exercises I could do?
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
September 02 2013 21:02 GMT
#509
On September 03 2013 02:51 ticki wrote:
Is bodyweight training something that a beginner can get into in his college dormroom? I have a pullup bar and that's about it. I've noticed that I need additional equipment for exercises such as the l-sit or the backlever. Is bodyweight training something that could be done with simply exercises like the handstand, pushups, pullups, etc? What are other exercises I could do?


No, L-sit can be done on the ground and back lever on a bar.

Read this article:

http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2010/03/the-fundamentals-of-bodyweight-strength-training/
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
iloveroo
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada294 Posts
September 03 2013 03:37 GMT
#510
Another school year is starting, but this isn't the case for me. I will be working majority of the time, playing video games and most of all heading to the gym.

I have been doing the 5x5 SS program for roughly 4 months but in that 4 months I took some breaks here and there.
Doing the program for that long I did see progress for the first 2 months then after that I haven't really seen anything after that.
So I think its time for me to do split routines now. As a beginner of split routines can someone give me pointers.. Which days to do what, how to combine them appropriately etc.
ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-03 05:30:38
September 03 2013 05:30 GMT
#511
lack of progress in 2 months?? are you eating right? are you eating enough? resting enough? doing the program consistently?

edit - also, might wanna continue this conversation in the questions and answers thread. this is the bodyweight training thread.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
September 03 2013 14:47 GMT
#512
On September 03 2013 12:37 iloveroo wrote:
Another school year is starting, but this isn't the case for me. I will be working majority of the time, playing video games and most of all heading to the gym.

I have been doing the 5x5 SS program for roughly 4 months but in that 4 months I took some breaks here and there.
Doing the program for that long I did see progress for the first 2 months then after that I haven't really seen anything after that.
So I think its time for me to do split routines now. As a beginner of split routines can someone give me pointers.. Which days to do what, how to combine them appropriately etc.


The biggest indictor of progress is consistency. You don't have it.

Changing your routine won't make you improve. Being more consistent will.

/end real talk
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
September 05 2013 12:16 GMT
#513
PR free handstand at 8s. Weird thing was I was just kicking up to practice a little bit on the sideline at ultimate and I tried watching the game while inverted. Instantly felt more aware of my balance than when I look at the ground normally, which seems counter-intuitive but I'll take it. It may just be getting my head in a better position.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
September 07 2013 13:11 GMT
#514
On September 05 2013 21:16 mordek wrote:
PR free handstand at 8s. Weird thing was I was just kicking up to practice a little bit on the sideline at ultimate and I tried watching the game while inverted. Instantly felt more aware of my balance than when I look at the ground normally, which seems counter-intuitive but I'll take it. It may just be getting my head in a better position.


Yeah, head in seems to work better for some people.

I prefer head out just enough so you can see the ground out of the top of your eyes. Head out so you're looking directly at the ground is way too much for anyone really.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Schwopzi
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands954 Posts
September 08 2013 16:26 GMT
#515
Looking directly at the ground puts your spine in too big of a bend which in turn impacts data transfer through your nervous system.
Basically you should never have kinks in your spine when doing anything that requires strength and/or coördination.

Kelly Starret basically made his career on this subject, so if you want to delve deeper look at/read some of his stuff.
Only the dead have seen the end of war
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4754 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-08 18:51:05
September 08 2013 18:49 GMT
#516
Since yesterday I have a Pull-Up in my flat, screwed into the ceiling to support my 105kg frame. I couldn't be happier, now that I don't have to run around and look for construction sites to do my Pull-Ups... It drives me mad that in Germany we never seem to have Pull-Up bars in our parcs.

I also just realized again yesterday that you can do so much stuff with Push-Ups. They surely have their limitations, but if you focus on good form and some more difficult variations, you can really do lots of good stuff with those.
Still, I would like to have a Dip-Station in my flat, but I don't know where to put it. I don't think my chairs are made for that, at least not for weighted Dips.

I wish could Squat again, but maybe that majorly expensive acupuncture is gonna help.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Garbels
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria653 Posts
September 08 2013 22:02 GMT
#517
Maybe attach rings to your pullup bar. Should be fine for dips and not-so-fancy ringstuff.
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4754 Posts
September 08 2013 23:09 GMT
#518
That's not a bad idea actually... have to see how feasible it is though.

Thanks!
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
September 09 2013 12:59 GMT
#519
Hey Malinor, glad to see you're keeping at it Anecdotally I've had acupuncture help with stuff, hope it improves for you (quad right?)

Is there a major drawback to doing l-sit/frog stand every day or even a couple times a day? I'm thinking it's more skill work but I'm not that advanced in either but also tired of doing 2-3 workouts a week and not making a ton of progress. Consistency is key but wondering if daily work would help with that consistency.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4754 Posts
September 09 2013 19:18 GMT
#520
Glad to hear that. And yeah, I am keeping at it. My weight is junmping up and down, but at the end of the day I weigh the same than at the beginning of the year. With my history, I should count this as a success. Still wanna lose 10kg total though.

I just stopped posting since wieghtlifting just was too frustrating with my injury and then starting a new job... working full-time is stressful

Anyway, I am REALLY hoping that the acupuncture is going to help, plus me myself massaging it all the time. I am desperate actually. Everything that requires explosive power in the quads is just not feasible

@Garbels: Honestly, I would have never thought of that, although it is that obvious. That is gonna be so awesome, I won't even be needing a gym anymore until my stupid quad is fixed. Bodyweight stuff is awesome.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
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