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Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 05:47:09
October 02 2011 05:46 GMT
#12421
On October 02 2011 14:21 infinity21 wrote:
Ok need some input here.
Ever since I tried to max out my DL on top of my regular 5x5 workout, my back has never been not sore. It's at a point where I feel fatigued doing my warm-up sets. For example, even though my work set today was 215, I felt tired doing 5 reps of 135. By the last work set, my lower back was giving out and I was doing a little bow at the bottom of my squat every time lol
The thing is, I manage to squeeze out the reps somehow every time for the last week or two but I don't feel very good having a tight & sore lower back all the time. Should I switch to 3x5 or maybe skip squats on DL days? I feel like my body will snap back at me if I keep this up.


generally speaking, soreness is okay, but not pain.

however, if you genuinely feel that you are being overworked (I've never done SL, only SS), then consider switching to SS, at least give it a try on one of the work outs (so just cut from 5 sets to 3)

if you are still making linear gains on squats, then I wouldn't take away the squats on one of the days. if anything, try 70% or front squats. this adjustment is typically adopted by intermediate lifters as they can no longer make linear progress.

also, try sleeping more and eating better
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 07:01:09
October 02 2011 06:30 GMT
#12422
Now that I think about it, even though I had 2 rest days, I only got 5-6 hours of sleep on Wed and Thurs nights so that probably didn't help my recovery.

Making linear gains feels awesome and I don't want to do anything to stall faster, although I really have to work for every rep now. The weights feel intimidating and I really have to go into rage mode before every set to get through it. What would be considered an intermediate squat weight for someone who's 5'11 and 170lbs? According to this chart, I'm already pretty close to their intermediate weight.

Would eating junk food be better than eating nothing? Currently at about 2.5k cals today + maybe 100ml of jack daniels. My current options are: dark chocolate, walnuts, and milk (optional whey). Oh and korean instant noodles. Yummy
edit: settled for 2 bananas and 1.5 cup of choco milk
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Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
October 02 2011 09:45 GMT
#12423
Leangains is going good so far. Lost 3kg in the last 4 weeks and my lifts are still keeping up or even slowly progressing. After a few more weeks I'm probably at my goal bodyfat % so I'm gonna try leangains for a bulk then. It's really nice to only have to bother with 3 meals during the day and you don't have to think about your food much compared to eating 5-6 meals.
glurio
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany597 Posts
October 02 2011 09:50 GMT
#12424
http://www.strstd.com

2.5kcal is really low if you wanna gain weight, i don't weigh much more but eat up to 3500kcal a day.
And yes, if gaining weight is the goal, junk food is better than no food at all.
If those korean instant noodles are like those ramen things from japan skip em, way too few calories. Other stuff you list is good and not exactly junk food.
Whether you think you can, or think you can't, you're right. - Henry Ford
BouBou.865
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands814 Posts
October 02 2011 10:29 GMT
#12425
For choco milk, any do's and don't? Does it matter whether you take 90% cacao or nesquik?
Playing League of Legends. IGN: Plain Skill
terr13
Profile Joined April 2007
United States298 Posts
October 02 2011 10:51 GMT
#12426
Hi guys, just looking for a little feedback. Currently, I'm 5' 5", 145lbs with a 285lbs squat, 305lbs deadlift, and 195lbs bench. I want to hit 315 lbs squat, 365 lbs deadlift, and 225 bench, hopefully within the next couple months. Any suggestions on workout routines? I have never done SS before, although I have done some 5x5.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
October 02 2011 11:59 GMT
#12427
^wow those are some really impressive numbers.

Are you on any teams? My ex-roommates were around your weight (but 6'-ish) and had higher numbers, but they were both hardcore rowers.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 12:11:41
October 02 2011 12:00 GMT
#12428
On October 02 2011 15:30 infinity21 wrote:
Now that I think about it, even though I had 2 rest days, I only got 5-6 hours of sleep on Wed and Thurs nights so that probably didn't help my recovery.

Making linear gains feels awesome and I don't want to do anything to stall faster, although I really have to work for every rep now. The weights feel intimidating and I really have to go into rage mode before every set to get through it. What would be considered an intermediate squat weight for someone who's 5'11 and 170lbs? According to this chart, I'm already pretty close to their intermediate weight.

Would eating junk food be better than eating nothing? Currently at about 2.5k cals today + maybe 100ml of jack daniels. My current options are: dark chocolate, walnuts, and milk (optional whey). Oh and korean instant noodles. Yummy
edit: settled for 2 bananas and 1.5 cup of choco milk


imo, junk food is better than nothing. If you don't get enough calories, there's no way in hell you can make steady progress.

i'm actually not eating nearly enough myself, and my numbers have stalled significantly >.<

also, don't worry about the beginner/intermediate crap. if you can still make reasonable gains every session, stick with what you are doing.

both SL5x5 and SS are considered to be beginner programs, but I think you can try switching to SS once you find SL too taxing on your body (which seems to be happening presently). Once you start to stall on your lifts even after resets, look into the intermediate programs.

I'm presently doing the Bill Star program, which is an intermediate program after SL5x5.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Catch
Profile Joined September 2010
United States616 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 14:26:32
October 02 2011 14:25 GMT
#12429
Found this while surfing the wizzeb


Crazy what you can achieve
Victory Loves Preparation
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
October 02 2011 14:34 GMT
#12430
On October 02 2011 19:51 terr13 wrote:
Hi guys, just looking for a little feedback. Currently, I'm 5' 5", 145lbs with a 285lbs squat, 305lbs deadlift, and 195lbs bench. I want to hit 315 lbs squat, 365 lbs deadlift, and 225 bench, hopefully within the next couple months. Any suggestions on workout routines? I have never done SS before, although I have done some 5x5.


Starting Strength is for beginners, and you are well past that! Pick up Practical Programming for Weightlifting by Mark Rippetoe. Otherwise, I think other people on here pick up various programs such as Conan-Philipi, Smolov, ect.
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
October 02 2011 14:43 GMT
#12431
On October 02 2011 15:30 infinity21 wrote:
Now that I think about it, even though I had 2 rest days, I only got 5-6 hours of sleep on Wed and Thurs nights so that probably didn't help my recovery.

Making linear gains feels awesome and I don't want to do anything to stall faster, although I really have to work for every rep now. The weights feel intimidating and I really have to go into rage mode before every set to get through it. What would be considered an intermediate squat weight for someone who's 5'11 and 170lbs? According to this chart, I'm already pretty close to their intermediate weight.

Would eating junk food be better than eating nothing? Currently at about 2.5k cals today + maybe 100ml of jack daniels. My current options are: dark chocolate, walnuts, and milk (optional whey). Oh and korean instant noodles. Yummy
edit: settled for 2 bananas and 1.5 cup of choco milk


If you're gonna junk it out chocolate is expensive but better than most things (if you get the unrefined dark choco with not much sweeteners added that is).
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 15:00:36
October 02 2011 15:00 GMT
#12432
I recently began foam rolling myself because I no longer get free massages , the 1st session was painful, but I think the rollers at my gym are too soft, since I no longer feel anything after three sessions.

So now, I'm sitting at home rolling myself with a bottle of wine, oh the pain!!! The wine is actually perfect to dull the pain...
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Ohnoes92
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden76 Posts
October 02 2011 20:05 GMT
#12433
Fuck this, i need to get my shit together and start being consistent when it comes to drinking milk. Right now im drinking anything from 1½ litres a day to 3 litres a day, need to get minimum 3 litres a day if i want to gain some weight.
Ohai!
inimenesc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Estonia374 Posts
October 02 2011 20:12 GMT
#12434
So guys, i find yoga would be a great thing to try, how to get started, can i do it alone..recommend videos. I think the topic is too wide to trust google search.

I would like to do it every day about 15 mins at the evenings/mornings. Maybe mornings are better.

Yoga looks like relaxing and good for flexibility

SHOOT.
"When game is going full retard, you can only go with it. If you start going against it, if you start going half retard, you´re fucking done for." -n0tail 2014
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20078 Posts
October 02 2011 22:23 GMT
#12435
On October 03 2011 05:12 inimenesc wrote:
So guys, i find yoga would be a great thing to try, how to get started, can i do it alone..recommend videos. I think the topic is too wide to trust google search.

I would like to do it every day about 15 mins at the evenings/mornings. Maybe mornings are better.

Yoga looks like relaxing and good for flexibility

SHOOT.


theres a pretty substantial yoga post somewhere in this thread, try using the search.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
October 02 2011 22:36 GMT
#12436
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=180919&currentpage=540#10788

That's the yoga decaf is talking about.
I <3 Plexa.
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
October 02 2011 23:04 GMT
#12437
My coach is putting together a team for a competition in puerto rico this december. I'll be going to my first international competition!
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
October 02 2011 23:08 GMT
#12438
oh wow! congrats! :D
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
October 02 2011 23:16 GMT
#12439
165lb squat 5-5-5-5-5
Finally recovered from sickness
☺
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
October 03 2011 01:26 GMT
#12440
Congrats dimsum! Go kick some ass!
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