On October 01 2011 12:04 nemY wrote: At what point did you guys stall at on overhead press and how did you get over it? Seems like I hit a wall everytime at the 100-105lb range. I went and bought some micro plates so hopefully I can make smaller gains on it. Gotta squeeze out the last of those noob gains.
I've been at that 100-105lb press range for what feels like forever. I actually just re-read the entire section in Starting Strength on the press to hopefully fix any errors I'm still making.
Haha I thought I was the only one, I am there as well >_>
Also does anyone know of any stores in Canada that would sell chalk? I just checked SportCheck and it was a huge store and they didn't have any. I wish walmart would just carry it in their sport section -_-.
Mountain Equipment Co-op sells chalk in-stores. You should check store locations and see if you live close to one.
On October 01 2011 12:04 nemY wrote: At what point did you guys stall at on overhead press and how did you get over it? Seems like I hit a wall everytime at the 100-105lb range. I went and bought some micro plates so hopefully I can make smaller gains on it. Gotta squeeze out the last of those noob gains.
From what I've seen the best way to get press up much quicker is to increase volume and start pressing 3-4x a week.
But you will likely have to get onto a different program to carry that out.
While on SS you should be using fractional plates if possible
I bought some fractional plates and tried 104lbs yesterday. Hit every rep except my last rep on my last set. This frustrated me so much that afterwards I DLed a small village.
Bench Press: 92kx3x2 (3 sec pause at bottom), 101kgx3x2, 110kg x 1 (PR) FUCK YEAH Deadlift: 146x3, 165kg x2x3
So in five weeks my 1RM went from 96kg to 110kg (fatigued) On the following 6 weeks if I can work to a 120kg single and then run a peaking cycle so I could open with 125-130 at the meet, which would be completely awesome. Deadlift feeling great aswell, hopefully I can make it till 188x2x3.
Edit: Given there is an oly thread, I was wondering if I could start a powerlifting thread.
Hmm...does anyone know any "for basketball players" SS modification? I want to jump higher and i dont feel like squats are helping that much, i even feel i am jumping lower allready.
On October 02 2011 03:40 inimenesc wrote: Hmm...does anyone know any "for basketball players" SS modification? I want to jump higher and i dont feel like squats are helping that much, i even feel i am jumping lower allready.
Should i post it to Q/A ?
Depends on which aspect of your jumping ability needs work.
The way I understand it, SS is a totally decent way to build the strength base necessary for a good vertical leap. So for that aspect, no modification necessary. Power cleans are supposed to be ideal for building what Kelly Baggett calls "rate of force development," and I think he also recommends things like jump squats for that. Last thing is "reactive strength," which is your body's ability to absorb force into the muscles and tendons and then transfer that force back into the jump; this requires plyometric work along the lines of depth jumps (stepping off a box and jumping as high as you can upon landing) and another one I can't recall the name of, which consists of stepping off a high box (somewhere around 24-30 inches) and landing with as little noise and knee bend as possible. Same rules of SS regarding overtraining apply to plyometric work: keep volume low and intensity high, and give your body enough time to recover between workouts.
I think that's a weird thing to say, unless you can jump the same distance while not using your legs as you can when you only use the muscles in the black area. I'd say the reason Power cleans work is because a jump is an explosive motion, and power cleans build explosiveness.
But, you won't have much use of this if you don't have the muscles to back it up. Which means you need to squat.
This weeks training schedule really got to me. I have sore traps and sore hamstrings (and I have not been sore since a couple of months, all thanks to increased Deadlift-voume) and have torn four calluses, I can't really grab anything anymore without pain. My first week of 4 training days was just too unorganized, but that was expected and I have to experiment a bit. Next week I am gonna do Push/Pull splits but with 3days of squatting. Squatting less just feels wrong.
@inimene, I would assume that you're getting heavier now that you're lifting, but you haven't adjusted to it, and you don't know how to utilize your new muscle mass when it comes to jumping. I know that in highschool, I could dunk 1 handed... since then I've put on 40+ lbs, and for a while my jump was much worse. Now it's almost as good as it originally was, and I'm stronger - so it actually matters.
Try just standing under the rim after your ss workout, and jump as high as you can, as fast as you can. Train your body to use the muscle that you're building. In addition to that, get your squat and your PC up.
Holy shit I'm sold! Already added 5 in the cart, 2 for me and a few for friends. Will let know if I get any results, 1 angle 1 direction standard barbell and dumbbells are a thing of the past this is 2011 now!
On October 01 2011 21:29 Energies wrote: Yeahhh buddy!
5x130 squat 5x165 deadlift
Come on!!
Bench still lagging...
Beastly.
Your shoulder is messed up, right?
Yes, dislocated left shoulder and never healed or got placed back in properly I think. I probably should have gone to a doctor for proper x-rays instead of just getting a physio to pop it back in. It's slowly coming around. It's definitely noticeable when I am fatigued doing barbell press as it goes up sideways. Dumbbell press always damages it and it's super noticeable as only my right arm goes up.
How do i hold a barbell on the front of my shoulders? In some power clean videos, people say it's possible to tell if it's on shoulders by removing hands. Every time i let go of the barbell with my hands, the bar just falls forwards to the floor.
On October 02 2011 11:49 Release wrote: How do i hold a barbell on the front of my shoulders? In some power clean videos, people say it's possible to tell if it's on shoulders by removing hands. Every time i let go of the barbell with my hands, the bar just falls forwards to the floor.
try raising your elbows as high up as possible
it requires some level of flexibility, so it might not come as easily for some people
Ok need some input here. Ever since I tried to max out my DL on top of my regular 5x5 workout, my back has never been not sore. It's at a point where I feel fatigued doing my warm-up sets. For example, even though my work set today was 215, I felt tired doing 5 reps of 135. By the last work set, my lower back was giving out and I was doing a little bow at the bottom of my squat every time lol The thing is, I manage to squeeze out the reps somehow every time for the last week or two but I don't feel very good having a tight & sore lower back all the time. Should I switch to 3x5 or maybe skip squats on DL days? I feel like my body will snap back at me if I keep this up.
EPT
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