TL Health and Fitness Initiative 2011 - Page 561

On September 09 2011 01:07 Earll wrote:



well as of right now at least i wont be changing P90x to anything that requires more equipment and/or a gym membership. I'll probably just stick to it untill the 90 days are over and see what I want after that. I don't have the luxury of preparing any sort of hot food while at 'work' though, the skyr I am eating is pretty proteinrich though so i guess that will have to do. Does it matter much when I eat compared to work outs though? because right now I have my one midday meal at 12~, then I Get home from 'work' at like 3:30-4, Then I have the option of either working out right away when I am somewhat hungry/sort of weak, or eating first and then waiting a bit and working out later, when I might be able to do a better work out\be more energized?

Edit: And also, thank you for all the helps ^_^

On September 09 2011 08:58 Earll wrote:



Ok so ffuuu.. the more I am reading up on this + thinking about it the more I am thinking it is probably better to changing up my exercise program from p90x to more weight lifting or what have you. I'll probably start reading starting strength soon, as that has what I need to know? (But I mean it has like 300 pages, will it tell me what I need to do to start off the first few pages?)

I am still having somewhat hard time fully believing that this is the better option though but I don't see why : ( I guess I just have a really hard time letting go of the imagery i have already created in my head, that if I want to have like a more lean "swimmers type" body, I should do a lot more cardio and less weight lifting, and if I want more big muscles, either like body builder type, or bear\incontrol type, I should lift weights. But what is actually true is that the body type I get depends basically on what I eat, and that following something like starting strength is better either way? Apart from like Actually training for endurance\running marathons or whatever I guess?

Also I see a lot of the time it is mentioned that to get abs, you need to just lose body fat not actually work ab muscles, I get the part that having great ab muscles covered in fat will still just be fat. But if you get rid of the fat working abs must be important for that, no?

Also I am somewhat left with the feeling that my current exercise gives me a better.. full body work out than what starting strength gives me, though I am not sure why I am left with that impression =p

Edit: Oh, also, is there any reason at all to consider getting supplements for me (some protein like thing I guess)? Me being pretty new to lifting weights, having worked out (p90x) for 1 month, and 71 kg 180cm or so? Would it speed up anyones fat loss\muscle gain, so there is no reason not to, and some reason to get it , 'even for me'? =p

On September 09 2011 09:01 Velocirapture wrote:
Well I am coming up on my one month anniversary of when I started lifting. I am definitely feeling stronger and seeing the difference in my appearance. I put my money where my mouth was and have stepped up my PT to 2x a week and am loving every second of it (even if I have had to cut out almost all of my other discretionary spending to afford it lol).

Its so funny to see all the posts in this thread about being so skinny and needing to gain. It all makes me feel like im doing this whole process backwards. I started in my early 20s at almost 300 lbs obese and now im a chubby 210 building up muscle and my weight staying pretty much constant. Its hard for me to even imagine myself at 105lbs, I think id die .

On September 09 2011 08:58 Earll wrote:



Ok so ffuuu.. the more I am reading up on this + thinking about it the more I am thinking it is probably better to changing up my exercise program from p90x to more weight lifting or what have you. I'll probably start reading starting strength soon, as that has what I need to know? (But I mean it has like 300 pages, will it tell me what I need to do to start off the first few pages?)

I am still having somewhat hard time fully believing that this is the better option though but I don't see why : ( I guess I just have a really hard time letting go of the imagery i have already created in my head, that if I want to have like a more lean "swimmers type" body, I should do a lot more cardio and less weight lifting, and if I want more big muscles, either like body builder type, or bear\incontrol type, I should lift weights. But what is actually true is that the body type I get depends basically on what I eat, and that following something like starting strength is better either way? Apart from like Actually training for endurance\running marathons or whatever I guess?

Also I see a lot of the time it is mentioned that to get abs, you need to just lose body fat not actually work ab muscles, I get the part that having great ab muscles covered in fat will still just be fat. But if you get rid of the fat working abs must be important for that, no?

Also I am somewhat left with the feeling that my current exercise gives me a better.. full body work out than what starting strength gives me, though I am not sure why I am left with that impression =p

Edit: Oh, also, is there any reason at all to consider getting supplements for me (some protein like thing I guess)? Me being pretty new to lifting weights, having worked out (p90x) for 1 month, and 71 kg 180cm or so? Would it speed up anyones fat loss\muscle gain, so there is no reason not to, and some reason to get it , 'even for me'? =p

On September 09 2011 10:55 Release wrote:
since this is the most physical place on the website i'll ask here:
What do you guys think is the most effective style of self defense? (boxing, karate, etc)

On September 09 2011 10:55 Release wrote:
since this is the most physical place on the website i'll ask here:
What do you guys think is the most effective style of self defense? (boxing, karate, etc)

On September 09 2011 11:16 AoN.DimSum wrote:
ss imo

On September 09 2011 10:55 Release wrote:
since this is the most physical place on the website i'll ask here:
What do you guys think is the most effective style of self defense? (boxing, karate, etc)

On September 09 2011 08:41 Froadac wrote:
>.>

Yeah. Having overweight family + being skinny sucks.

OK, chocolate/anyotherfoodthatisfood it is.

On September 09 2011 11:59 stevarius wrote:


My entire family is full of a bunch of lazy slobs and fat motherfuckers.

There is no way to put it other than being blunt. The amount of women over 200 is ridiculous given their short stature.

I'm a diamond among the rough. I was skinny as fuck all throughout my life until just recently. Now, and going forward, I hope to be an inspiration to them to not be lazy asses and to put in some effort to better themselves. So many health problems go around my family(mostly distant relatives), but a large majority of it can be linked to them being obese.

Being skinny is fantastic and gives you a great platform to build on.


Btw, chocolate is bad. Milk isn't that expensive and I'd recommend half a gallon of it a day for someone at such a low weight. Why? It has a fantastic ratio of macro nutrients in order to gain weight from lifting.

On September 09 2011 11:59 stevarius wrote:


My entire family is full of a bunch of lazy slobs and fat motherfuckers.

There is no way to put it other than being blunt. The amount of women over 200 is ridiculous given their short stature.

I'm a diamond among the rough. I was skinny as fuck all throughout my life until just recently. Now, and going forward, I hope to be an inspiration to them to not be lazy asses and to put in some effort to better themselves. So many health problems go around my family(mostly distant relatives), but a large majority of it can be linked to them being obese.

Being skinny is fantastic and gives you a great platform to build on.


Btw, chocolate is bad. Milk isn't that expensive and I'd recommend half a gallon of it a day for someone at such a low weight. Why? It has a fantastic ratio of macro nutrients in order to gain weight from lifting.

On September 09 2011 12:06 Froadac wrote:

Yeah. I know. But brilliant mom who is looking out for my wellbeing only gets nonfat milk, and refuses to let me have otherwise.