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On January 03 2011 05:14 decafchicken wrote:
And at places that frown upon chalk (aka places i frown upon) i usually just leave the chalk in a plastic bag or something when i use it to keep it from getting everywhere because that seems to be the main concern.
The gym I'm going to over the holidays has a 'no chalk' rule, so when I'm deadlifting I just go into the locker room between sets and apply it there, No mess, no hassle, and hell, I'd just be sitting on a bench catching my breath between sets anyways.
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On January 03 2011 05:24 xJupiter9x wrote:
Yeah that's one of the sets that I looked at. I just didn't know how many weights to get. The gym i go to is a piece of shit. I had to move home from school because I couldn't afford rent anymore at my old school and the 24 hour fitness in my home town is smaller than my house. I'm trying to find a better gym around here.
Just the ones that come with it should be fine.. Maybe get a few iron 2.5s/5s/10s which shouldn't cost to much (craigslist baby). 230 should last you quite a while. By then you can just get another set of 45's if you're doing more than 230
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On January 03 2011 06:24 decafchicken wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2011 05:24 xJupiter9x wrote:
Yeah that's one of the sets that I looked at. I just didn't know how many weights to get. The gym i go to is a piece of shit. I had to move home from school because I couldn't afford rent anymore at my old school and the 24 hour fitness in my home town is smaller than my house. I'm trying to find a better gym around here. Just the ones that come with it should be fine.. Maybe get a few iron 2.5s/5s/10s which shouldn't cost to much (craigslist baby). 230 should last you quite a while. By then you can just get another set of 45's if you're doing more than 230
Ok that sounds good. Thanks.
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On January 03 2011 04:18 divinesage wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2011 03:32 eshlow wrote:On January 03 2011 02:19 divinesage wrote:
Hello, I've been thinking of weight training for a while now. However I'm suffering from rheumatoid arthritis which makes my joints stiff, and painful when I apply pressure on it. The most unfortunate thing about this is that strength training becomes a problem for me. When my pain flares up, even push-ups become impossible to do due to the stiffness in my wrist. This occurs several times a week. So I was wondering if anyone could recommend me some exercises that help me build upper body (arm and chest) strength without much use of my wrist and elbow joints (my shoulders are fine). Eliminate grains and gluten from your diet immediately, and any sort of processed foods. Start supplementing fish oil. RA is primarily a diet controlled thing. hopefully theres not too much damage done already so that when you eliminate the problem factors in your diet you can heal up and permanently be cured of it (as long as you keep those things out of your diet permanently). Hmmm, I've heard that before. But I asked my doctor that and she said it was okay to take grains and gluten. I do try to avoid processed foods whenever possible, and I guess I should start taking fish oil. Thanks! Thankfully though my RA is pretty mild, though it still comes on and off regularly. Though the problem has made me a skinny *chuckle* person thanks to my physiology and lack of upper body exercise.
No seriously... you should eliminate gluten and grains too.
http://perfecthealthdiet.com/?cat=57
There's really no reason not to and the studies support it too.
If you go to google scholar and put in "rheumatoid arthritis AND gluten OR grains" and you'll get a multitude of hits if you want to sift through them.
I would also eliminate dairy or anything else you may be potentially allergic to as those things can also set off RA
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+ Show Spoiler +On January 03 2011 04:18 divinesage wrote:
Hmmm, I've heard that before. But I asked my doctor that and she said it was okay to take grains and gluten. I do try to avoid processed foods whenever possible, and I guess I should start taking fish oil. Thanks!
Your doctor is wrong. You've got a decent chance of being miraculously cured if you go full paleo for a few months. Try it! You've got nothing to lose, plus you can reintroduce certain things like dairy later on to definitively show how well you tolerate them. Most people with non-leaky guts handle dairy fine, since without grain lectins like Wheat Germ Agglutinin in your diet the casein shouldn't leak through the gut into your blood stream.
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So when I start training again soon, I'm already considering the potential problems of having classes while trying to eat a lot. First, it'll be hard to consume a *lot* of high calorie food during class. I'll have 10 ish minutes between class, but no more than 3-4 hours of class/day. I have a few canisters of mixed nuts right now, but that'll be good for helping me get the 400-500kcal I need while I'm in class for only a few weeks worth of class.
I'm thinking that if I can, I'll have to scrounge up the money for more nuts, since eating other things in massssive quantity will have me inconveniently running to the restroom when I'd rather be in lecture. :<
Any suggestions on this point?
Another minor concern is that even though a 1/4 cup of mixed nuts is just under 200kcals, I'm only getting a few grams of protein, at most. Given my 120lb body weight (and assuming I'd want 1g of protein/lb body weight), this is definitely not a good way to get my requisite daily protein intake. Eeeh
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Apple + peanut butter is a personal favorite. Also some leftover grilled chicken is a good choice. If you eat a nice breakfast before class though you should be able to make it 3-4 hours ez with a snack. 3 eggs + cheese + bacon + milk usually keeps me pretty satisfied till i get out of class, esp if i sneak in some oatmeal or smth between class.
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On January 01 2011 20:15 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2011 15:07 terr13 wrote:
Is it better to follow the madcow 5x5 or the Stronglift 5x5? They're programs for different levels. Madcow's 5x5 is aimed at the intermediate lifter who is no longer capable of sessionly progression. In other words, if you have completed a novice/advanced novice strength program, you can benefit from Madcow's. Starting Strength and Stronglifts are for your novice lifter. The term "novice" may turn you off, but it is just defined by your experience on a sessionly progression program; some people have been in the gym for a long time and are still considered novices. I would recommend Starting Strength over Stronglifts if you're a novice. If you're an intermediate .. well, you probably wouldn't be asking this question, no offense intended.
How long does it take on average for a person to stop progressing sessionly? It sure as hell feels like that at the moment, but it's only been five months. I don't think it's a dietary problem either...
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On January 03 2011 11:04 rEiGN~ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2011 20:15 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:On January 01 2011 15:07 terr13 wrote:
Is it better to follow the madcow 5x5 or the Stronglift 5x5? They're programs for different levels. Madcow's 5x5 is aimed at the intermediate lifter who is no longer capable of sessionly progression. In other words, if you have completed a novice/advanced novice strength program, you can benefit from Madcow's. Starting Strength and Stronglifts are for your novice lifter. The term "novice" may turn you off, but it is just defined by your experience on a sessionly progression program; some people have been in the gym for a long time and are still considered novices. I would recommend Starting Strength over Stronglifts if you're a novice. If you're an intermediate .. well, you probably wouldn't be asking this question, no offense intended. How long does it take on average for a person to stop progressing sessionly? It sure as hell feels like that at the moment, but it's only been five months. I don't think it's a dietary problem either...
Depends on your genetics, and your recovery factors (sleep, nutrition, etc).
Ccan be anywhere from a couple months to proabbly closer to a year. Some people start mad strong and get insanely strong... some people start weak and are still fairly weak when they end.
It's common to end a linear progression with around 1.5-2x bodyweight squat and deadlift for those two core lifts. Bench tends to be about 1-1.5x and press at .5-1x
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On January 03 2011 11:04 rEiGN~ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2011 20:15 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:On January 01 2011 15:07 terr13 wrote:
Is it better to follow the madcow 5x5 or the Stronglift 5x5? They're programs for different levels. Madcow's 5x5 is aimed at the intermediate lifter who is no longer capable of sessionly progression. In other words, if you have completed a novice/advanced novice strength program, you can benefit from Madcow's. Starting Strength and Stronglifts are for your novice lifter. The term "novice" may turn you off, but it is just defined by your experience on a sessionly progression program; some people have been in the gym for a long time and are still considered novices. I would recommend Starting Strength over Stronglifts if you're a novice. If you're an intermediate .. well, you probably wouldn't be asking this question, no offense intended. How long does it take on average for a person to stop progressing sessionly? It sure as hell feels like that at the moment, but it's only been five months. I don't think it's a dietary problem either...
Yep, five months sounds about right. It ranges from three to eight months of uninterrupted training to stop sessionly progression. I'm personally at about the five month mark, but due to repeated illness, I'm still doing novice progression. It should last me another month or two.
The Starting Strength guideline is that you should reset your squat twice before progressing to the advanced novice stage. In other words, the advanced novice stage starts with your third squat reset. When your squat stalls again (you should put another 20-30 pounds on it in this stage), you are ready to progress into an intermediate program like Madcow's.
Also, after reading The Paleo Solution, I am totally on board with the anti-grain crowd. I was before, but Robb Wolf does an excellent job of showing the layman why grains are unnecessary and harmful to our bodies.
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previous 4 months
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Age: 24 || Height: 5'11" || Weight: 195 lbs
Starting Date: 02/01/11 || Goal Date: 6/1/11
Weight goals -- 170 lbs
Training goals -- Continue running at least 3 times a week, use the school gym 2 times a week
Nutrition goals -- no pop, eat smaller portions, more veggies
Misc goals -- look good naked, feel confident again.
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On January 03 2011 12:12 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2011 11:04 rEiGN~ wrote:On January 01 2011 20:15 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:On January 01 2011 15:07 terr13 wrote:
Is it better to follow the madcow 5x5 or the Stronglift 5x5? They're programs for different levels. Madcow's 5x5 is aimed at the intermediate lifter who is no longer capable of sessionly progression. In other words, if you have completed a novice/advanced novice strength program, you can benefit from Madcow's. Starting Strength and Stronglifts are for your novice lifter. The term "novice" may turn you off, but it is just defined by your experience on a sessionly progression program; some people have been in the gym for a long time and are still considered novices. I would recommend Starting Strength over Stronglifts if you're a novice. If you're an intermediate .. well, you probably wouldn't be asking this question, no offense intended. How long does it take on average for a person to stop progressing sessionly? It sure as hell feels like that at the moment, but it's only been five months. I don't think it's a dietary problem either... Yep, five months sounds about right. It ranges from three to eight months of uninterrupted training to stop sessionly progression. I'm personally at about the five month mark, but due to repeated illness, I'm still doing novice progression. It should last me another month or two. The Starting Strength guideline is that you should reset your squat twice before progressing to the advanced novice stage. In other words, the advanced novice stage starts with your third squat reset. When your squat stalls again (you should put another 20-30 pounds on it in this stage), you are ready to progress into an intermediate program like Madcow's.
Just to be clear, what exactly do you mean by squat reset?
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On January 03 2011 12:20 vicariouscheese wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2011 12:12 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:On January 03 2011 11:04 rEiGN~ wrote:On January 01 2011 20:15 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:On January 01 2011 15:07 terr13 wrote:
Is it better to follow the madcow 5x5 or the Stronglift 5x5? They're programs for different levels. Madcow's 5x5 is aimed at the intermediate lifter who is no longer capable of sessionly progression. In other words, if you have completed a novice/advanced novice strength program, you can benefit from Madcow's. Starting Strength and Stronglifts are for your novice lifter. The term "novice" may turn you off, but it is just defined by your experience on a sessionly progression program; some people have been in the gym for a long time and are still considered novices. I would recommend Starting Strength over Stronglifts if you're a novice. If you're an intermediate .. well, you probably wouldn't be asking this question, no offense intended. How long does it take on average for a person to stop progressing sessionly? It sure as hell feels like that at the moment, but it's only been five months. I don't think it's a dietary problem either... Yep, five months sounds about right. It ranges from three to eight months of uninterrupted training to stop sessionly progression. I'm personally at about the five month mark, but due to repeated illness, I'm still doing novice progression. It should last me another month or two. The Starting Strength guideline is that you should reset your squat twice before progressing to the advanced novice stage. In other words, the advanced novice stage starts with your third squat reset. When your squat stalls again (you should put another 20-30 pounds on it in this stage), you are ready to progress into an intermediate program like Madcow's. Just to be clear, what exactly do you mean by squat reset?
When you hit a plateau, lower your working weight and restart the linear progression from there.
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On January 03 2011 12:20 vicariouscheese wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2011 12:12 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:On January 03 2011 11:04 rEiGN~ wrote:On January 01 2011 20:15 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:On January 01 2011 15:07 terr13 wrote:
Is it better to follow the madcow 5x5 or the Stronglift 5x5? They're programs for different levels. Madcow's 5x5 is aimed at the intermediate lifter who is no longer capable of sessionly progression. In other words, if you have completed a novice/advanced novice strength program, you can benefit from Madcow's. Starting Strength and Stronglifts are for your novice lifter. The term "novice" may turn you off, but it is just defined by your experience on a sessionly progression program; some people have been in the gym for a long time and are still considered novices. I would recommend Starting Strength over Stronglifts if you're a novice. If you're an intermediate .. well, you probably wouldn't be asking this question, no offense intended. How long does it take on average for a person to stop progressing sessionly? It sure as hell feels like that at the moment, but it's only been five months. I don't think it's a dietary problem either... Yep, five months sounds about right. It ranges from three to eight months of uninterrupted training to stop sessionly progression. I'm personally at about the five month mark, but due to repeated illness, I'm still doing novice progression. It should last me another month or two. The Starting Strength guideline is that you should reset your squat twice before progressing to the advanced novice stage. In other words, the advanced novice stage starts with your third squat reset. When your squat stalls again (you should put another 20-30 pounds on it in this stage), you are ready to progress into an intermediate program like Madcow's. Just to be clear, what exactly do you mean by squat reset?
When you can no longer increase the weight on your squat sessionly (as in, you try to do 5 repetitions with a new weight for 3 sets, but fail to for 2-3 sessions), you have stalled on the lift. This is a natural part of lifting weights and actually indicates that you have made progress, ironically enough.
When you stall on a lift, you reset it. Basically, this means you lower the weight that you are doing by 20%, and add 10 pounds/session until you are within 10 pounds of your previous weight, and then continue adding 5 pounds per session. If your reset and diet were done well, you should be able to push through your old plateau.
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On January 03 2011 12:12 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
The Starting Strength guideline is that you should reset your squat twice before progressing to the advanced novice stage. In other words, the advanced novice stage starts with your third squat reset. When your squat stalls again (you should put another 20-30 pounds on it in this stage), you are ready to progress into an intermediate program like Madcow's.
What about workouts other than squat, should they be reset during the novice stage, if necessary?
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On January 03 2011 12:26 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2011 12:20 vicariouscheese wrote:On January 03 2011 12:12 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:On January 03 2011 11:04 rEiGN~ wrote:On January 01 2011 20:15 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:On January 01 2011 15:07 terr13 wrote:
Is it better to follow the madcow 5x5 or the Stronglift 5x5? They're programs for different levels. Madcow's 5x5 is aimed at the intermediate lifter who is no longer capable of sessionly progression. In other words, if you have completed a novice/advanced novice strength program, you can benefit from Madcow's. Starting Strength and Stronglifts are for your novice lifter. The term "novice" may turn you off, but it is just defined by your experience on a sessionly progression program; some people have been in the gym for a long time and are still considered novices. I would recommend Starting Strength over Stronglifts if you're a novice. If you're an intermediate .. well, you probably wouldn't be asking this question, no offense intended. How long does it take on average for a person to stop progressing sessionly? It sure as hell feels like that at the moment, but it's only been five months. I don't think it's a dietary problem either... Yep, five months sounds about right. It ranges from three to eight months of uninterrupted training to stop sessionly progression. I'm personally at about the five month mark, but due to repeated illness, I'm still doing novice progression. It should last me another month or two. The Starting Strength guideline is that you should reset your squat twice before progressing to the advanced novice stage. In other words, the advanced novice stage starts with your third squat reset. When your squat stalls again (you should put another 20-30 pounds on it in this stage), you are ready to progress into an intermediate program like Madcow's. Just to be clear, what exactly do you mean by squat reset? When you can no longer increase the weight on your squat sessionly (as in, you try to do 5 repetitions with a new weight for 3 sets, but fail to for 2-3 sessions), you have stalled on the lift. This is a natural part of lifting weights and actually indicates that you have made progress, ironically enough. When you stall on a lift, you reset it. Basically, this means you lower the weight that you are doing by 20%, and add 10 pounds/session until you are within 10 pounds of your previous weight, and then continue adding 5 pounds per session. If your reset and diet were done well, you should be able to push through your old plateau.
K thanks, wasn't sure how much a reset should take off. While in the long run it probably wouldn't make a difference, I would've just gone back to starting weight...
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Managed to squat 105lbs 3x5 today after 2months, compared to the rest of you guys it's pretty damn shitty, but it feels good man! 
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LETS DO THIS
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Age: 22 || Height: 5'8" || Weight: 165lbs (estimate, will weight myself tomorrow)
Starting Date: 01/03/11 || Goal Date: 04/01/11
Weight goals -- Slightly heavier, lower body fat
Training goals -- 200x1x5 bench, 3x10 chinups and pullups, have never done squats/deadlifts so will decide these tomorrow after initial weight. Increase flexibility to do proper squats, as currently my shoulders can't pull back enough to pull the bar down below the traps.
Nutrition goals -- Buy and cook real food! Starting off with the paleo shopping list.
Misc goals -- Be awesome, check in here to stay motivated. Increase confidence.
What's a good way to calculate bmi? Should I just post some pics for you guys to check me out 
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On January 03 2011 12:35 rEiGN~ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2011 12:12 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
The Starting Strength guideline is that you should reset your squat twice before progressing to the advanced novice stage. In other words, the advanced novice stage starts with your third squat reset. When your squat stalls again (you should put another 20-30 pounds on it in this stage), you are ready to progress into an intermediate program like Madcow's.
What about workouts other than squat, should they be reset during the novice stage, if necessary?
Absolutely. Generally, in terms of how much you're going to be resetting a lift...
Press > bench > squat > deadlift
Press will be, by far, your most stubborn lift. Bench will be second by a close margin, and squat will be reset much less. Deadlift may be reset once in the entire program ... you can actually add far more generous amounts of weight to your deadlift and still not have to reset it.
I did the variation with pull ups and chin ups, so I'm not completely sure where power clean belongs in this. Maybe somewhere between squat and dead lift? Can anyone help me out on this one?
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Pcleans typically around bench weight or between bench and squat
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