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sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
March 21 2011 15:15 GMT
#2561
On March 21 2011 23:34 Michaelj wrote:
just an idea, but is her stance so wide so that she doesn't have to lift it up as far?


Yep. You got it right on.

@Zafrumi: As I thought: SICK GAINS! Great stuff. Not quite sure what you mean about the "4x3x1x127.5kg" notation. If you mean 4 sets of 3, followed by a single then getting 5 on the next session something tells me your setup wasn't as good as it should when you had to drop the bar early in the second set.

Go for it on wednesday and maybe having a spotter is a good idea
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-21 15:38:10
March 21 2011 15:21 GMT
#2562
thanks

I meant first set: 4 reps. second set: 3 reps. third set: 1 rep ^^ I always go for 3 sets of 5 reps.
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
March 21 2011 15:40 GMT
#2563
So I got a... weird question that I'm sure someone here can debunk or something

1 calorie is the amount of energy needed to increase the temprature of 1 gram of water by 1°C. So the question is, can you drink 10 grams of ice cold water and therefore burn 370 calories since the body will heat the water up to the core temprature of the body?

To me it sounds like it shouldn't work but I can't explain why
Michaelj
Profile Joined February 2008
United States186 Posts
March 21 2011 15:42 GMT
#2564
food Calories are spelled with a capital C, and denote Kilocalories. Therefore, if you drink 10 grams of ice cold water, maybe you'll burn .37 Calories?
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pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5098 Posts
March 21 2011 16:02 GMT
#2565
wait so all gyms play the same shit?
lady gaga
party in the usa
BABY ARE YOU DOWN DOWN DOWN DOWN DOWN

and the funny thing is the commercial for the radio is crystal method - keep hope alive which is actually a dope song
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20109 Posts
March 21 2011 16:15 GMT
#2566
On March 22 2011 01:02 pyrogenetix wrote:
wait so all gyms play the same shit?
lady gaga
party in the usa
BABY ARE YOU DOWN DOWN DOWN DOWN DOWN

and the funny thing is the commercial for the radio is crystal method - keep hope alive which is actually a dope song


Yes all gyms played total garbage music. I like my high school...i can put on whatever i want or if fucking katy perry comes on i just turn it off. Nice powerclean btw

@zafrumi: disgusting gains! Wish i could still do that already up to almost 300 pound squatting!
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5456 Posts
March 21 2011 16:20 GMT
#2567
On March 22 2011 00:40 Necosarius wrote:
So I got a... weird question that I'm sure someone here can debunk or something

1 calorie is the amount of energy needed to increase the temprature of 1 gram of water by 1°C. So the question is, can you drink 10 grams of ice cold water and therefore burn 370 calories since the body will heat the water up to the core temprature of the body?

To me it sounds like it shouldn't work but I can't explain why


My chemistry teacher in high school told my class this joke: Beer and Ice Cream Diet. But the person above already explained why it doesn't work, unfortunately! >_<
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
March 21 2011 16:24 GMT
#2568
On March 22 2011 00:42 Michaelj wrote:
food Calories are spelled with a capital C, and denote Kilocalories. Therefore, if you drink 10 grams of ice cold water, maybe you'll burn .37 Calories?

Duh, of course. Thanks!
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20109 Posts
March 21 2011 17:20 GMT
#2569
Studying for my marketing exam...my book just said "consider those that are physically fit vs those who are out of shape from high fat diets and sedentary living"

It's the little things that piss me off
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
ModernAgeShaman
Profile Joined January 2008
Norway484 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-21 19:40:14
March 21 2011 18:37 GMT
#2570
you can't ignore the fact that a caloric surplus coming from dietary fat is more easily converted to bodyfat than any other macro nutrient decaf, no matter how much you love your fats
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20109 Posts
March 21 2011 20:03 GMT
#2571
On March 22 2011 03:37 Sinep wrote:
you can't ignore the fact that a caloric surplus coming from dietary fat is more easily converted to bodyfat than any other macro nutrient decaf, no matter how much you love your fats


Its the caloric surplus thats bad, not the fats themselves! I'LL FIGHT FOR YOU FATS <3
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20109 Posts
March 21 2011 21:52 GMT
#2572
Sprain ankle.

Snatch 105 (personal best) 2 days later.

LIKE A BOSS
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
March 21 2011 23:59 GMT
#2573
On March 22 2011 06:52 decafchicken wrote:
Sprain ankle.

Snatch 105 (personal best) 2 days later.

LIKE A BOSS


pfff...I just watched the whole x-men series with my gf. And she kept nagging about the whole time how the movies were screwing up the comics ^^

On related notes I'm getting rid of this cold and will be back in action tomorrow.
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
March 22 2011 02:26 GMT
#2574
Came home for spring break, and went to my old UG gym

the gym is so old and rustic, it's actually kind of awesome; I never appreciated it before, but I really liked it

they don't care if
1) you squat barefeet
2) you drop your weight a little bit

went up to 245 on squat today, felt great
finally completed 5x3@115 lb press
i was working up my PCs but the gym closed, so I only managed a few 3x reps @ 145lb

I also started doing hot yoga, it was really nice; the class only had 8 people including the instructor... it turned out to be a lot better than I imagined even though I have never done yoga before

this is going to be a great spring break!
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-22 04:05:57
March 22 2011 04:02 GMT
#2575
Day 2, still figuring out my press and power clean limits. Those two exercises worry me most because of the amount of strain I`m exerting on my wrist. When you`re pressing, you put your elbows past the bar to unrack, but then you put your forearms vertically straight when pressing rightÉ I think the one thing I did wrong was keeping my elbows past the bar as I pressed.

Power cleans were probably my favourite exercise when I was lifting a few years back but I`m having trouble executing them now. I just can`t get the bar high enough to reach my front deltoids. The bar usually ends up on the top of my chest with my wrists catching them. Big no no. I have an inkling that I`m just not finishing and that its my grip. Normally I use the hook grip but I didn`t today. I think with a hook grip your forearms are more relaxed and it`s easier to sort of snap your elbows up after you pull too. At least my power cleans were a lot better than the guy next to me. He was using his ARMS to lift the bar up and he was catching it with his wrists on top of his chest too. He was lifting pretty heavy weights too. I stayed with the bar for like 30 minutes trying to fix my form. I forsee me sticking with the bar for at least two more rounds.
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20109 Posts
March 22 2011 04:16 GMT
#2576
Remember to drive your hips all the way through, shrug with your traps, and then throw your elbows toward the ceiling when you're catching. there's some flexibility videos for the rack position on cal strength. and if you're strong enough to press a weight it probably shouldn't be hurting your wrists too much.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
March 22 2011 04:21 GMT
#2577
- try doing hang cleans first, with the bar in front of your legs
- do it with confidence, and don't be afraid of the bar landing on your throat (I was really afraid of it at first)

If you are only using the bar, and you can't get it above your shoulder, then it's probably your flexibility. Also, after you bring the bar up to its maximum height, you are supposed to bend your knees a little bit to get under the bar and at the same time rotate your arms around the bar as if you are trying to scoop it. Your elbows should be pointing forward when you are making the catch.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-22 06:05:35
March 22 2011 06:03 GMT
#2578
On March 22 2011 13:21 Cambium wrote:
- try doing hang cleans first, with the bar in front of your legs
- do it with confidence, and don't be afraid of the bar landing on your throat (I was really afraid of it at first)

If you are only using the bar, and you can't get it above your shoulder, then it's probably your flexibility. Also, after you bring the bar up to its maximum height, you are supposed to bend your knees a little bit to get under the bar and at the same time rotate your arms around the bar as if you are trying to scoop it. Your elbows should be pointing forward when you are making the catch.


When I first learned power cleans I had a coach and that's exactly how I learned it. In steps. We did the rack position first where you put the bar on your shoulder and then you'd let the bar just drop, so you get a real feel for how the bar should be going down and up. Then you get in the jumping position put the bar mid thigh high and start cleaning from there. And then from below the knees and then so and and so forth.

My flexibility is defintiely an issue. I used to be able to point my elbows in the "racked position" (Forget what it's actually called) completely forward (180 degrees). But now I can only point it like 130 degrees. I think it's a combination of that and what decaf said. I'm not shurgging my shoulders/lats enough or exploding with the hips.

At first I wanted to try other routines that focused more on chinups and the back but I think I definitely want to stick with Ripptoe's original A B program cause I really wanna get my powerclean down. But I at the same time still wanna work out my back.

Is it okay if I add chinups and pullups to that program?

Monday:
3x5 Squat
3x5 Press/Bench press alternating
3 sets of pullups to failure and or weighted

Tuesday:
Squat 3x5
Bench press/press alternating
1x5 Deadlift
3 sets of chinups to failure and or weighted

Friday:
3x5 Squat
3x5 Press /bench press alternating
5x3 Power Cleans

How's something like that? Not too much? It's either that or the original starting strength program with chinups thrown in once a week. I haven't actually lifted anything for 2+ years due to a bad back injury (car injury) but I'm supposed to be all better now, and got the green light from my doctor and chiro. Yeah but I'm pretty out of shape and the fattest I've ever been. Feels good to start lifting again tho. I initially wanted to do power lifting and transition into olympic lifts cause I wanted to develop explosive speed in boxing (Which I also haven't done for 2+ years). That is my future goal again.

The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
March 22 2011 06:31 GMT
#2579
http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ:The_Program#Three_Flavors_of_Starting_Strength

Onus Wunsler
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
vicariouscheese
Profile Joined June 2010
United States589 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-22 06:38:11
March 22 2011 06:37 GMT
#2580
On March 22 2011 15:03 Warrior Madness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2011 13:21 Cambium wrote:
- try doing hang cleans first, with the bar in front of your legs
- do it with confidence, and don't be afraid of the bar landing on your throat (I was really afraid of it at first)

If you are only using the bar, and you can't get it above your shoulder, then it's probably your flexibility. Also, after you bring the bar up to its maximum height, you are supposed to bend your knees a little bit to get under the bar and at the same time rotate your arms around the bar as if you are trying to scoop it. Your elbows should be pointing forward when you are making the catch.


When I first learned power cleans I had a coach and that's exactly how I learned it. In steps. We did the rack position first where you put the bar on your shoulder and then you'd let the bar just drop, so you get a real feel for how the bar should be going down and up. Then you get in the jumping position put the bar mid thigh high and start cleaning from there. And then from below the knees and then so and and so forth.

My flexibility is defintiely an issue. I used to be able to point my elbows in the "racked position" (Forget what it's actually called) completely forward (180 degrees). But now I can only point it like 130 degrees. I think it's a combination of that and what decaf said. I'm not shurgging my shoulders/lats enough or exploding with the hips.

At first I wanted to try other routines that focused more on chinups and the back but I think I definitely want to stick with Ripptoe's original A B program cause I really wanna get my powerclean down. But I at the same time still wanna work out my back.

Is it okay if I add chinups and pullups to that program?

Monday:
3x5 Squat
3x5 Press/Bench press alternating
3 sets of pullups to failure and or weighted

Tuesday:
Squat 3x5
Bench press/press alternating
1x5 Deadlift
3 sets of chinups to failure and or weighted

Friday:
3x5 Squat
3x5 Press /bench press alternating
5x3 Power Cleans

How's something like that? Not too much? It's either that or the original starting strength program with chinups thrown in once a week. I haven't actually lifted anything for 2+ years due to a bad back injury (car injury) but I'm supposed to be all better now, and got the green light from my doctor and chiro. Yeah but I'm pretty out of shape and the fattest I've ever been. Feels good to start lifting again tho. I initially wanted to do power lifting and transition into olympic lifts cause I wanted to develop explosive speed in boxing (Which I also haven't done for 2+ years). That is my future goal again.



Until I got my lifting shoes, I was doing a variation of SS that had chinups and pullups. You can see it on the wiki.

Monday
Squat 3x5
Bench/Press 3x5
Chinups to failure (aimed for 3x10)

Wednesday
Squat 3x5
Press/Bench 3x5
Deadlift 1x5

Friday
Squat 3x5
Bench/Press 3x5
Pullups to failure (aimed for 3x10)

It was fun, but you do get a back workout with all the other lifts too... and since you classify yourself as a novice, you'll see results either way, you aren't skimping on your back until you start hitting your plateaus. The advanced novice SS program is essentially the above, except with weighted chins/pulls and deadlift alternating with powercleans every other week. Also front squats on wed instead of back squats.

If you were just going to throw in an exercise one day, I'd do it on the third day so you have 2 days to recover.

//edit: ninja'd, see above. I just like typing on my awesome keyboard.
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