On March 20 2011 18:31 shmay wrote: Whoa, I just looked at the recommended nutrition sites and apparently the Lean Gains guy is a poster in this thread? What's his sn?
On March 20 2011 18:31 shmay wrote: Whoa, I just looked at the recommended nutrition sites and apparently the Lean Gains guy is a poster in this thread? What's his sn?
"Leangains"
This is a dead giveaway that Martin Berkhan would be a TL lurker or poster . From leangains:
But I find the debates on strategy and race imbalances fascinating. It's funny how hotly debated some issues are - and you'll find many similarities with the fitness and diet community. For example, just like the "low carb/metabolic advantage" discussion stirs up a lot of emotions, similar strong and polarizing opinions are seen in the threads that deal with questions related to whether the match-ups between races are imbalanced (there are three races to choose from in the game - some people think Terran vs Zerg is “imbalanced” right now, some don't, etc.).
I'll also watch YouTube-videos of programmers playing for hours. And I finally understand why you'll have sports fans that rarely practice the sport themselves being the most hardcore sports fans out there... I rarely find time to play, but I'm crazy for watching others play :D
Lim Yo-Hwan AKA "Boxer" AKA The Emperor is my hero. Will he be able to make a strong comeback despite his age and shoulder problems? Only time will tell. Follow his progress in this exciting documentary. Can't wait for the next episode.
On March 20 2011 18:04 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Mr. Wiggles Age: 18 || Height: 6'00" || Weight: 195 lbs Starting Date: 20/03/11 || Goal Date: 01/07/11? Weight goals -- 175 lbs?
Misc goals:
So I've been meaning to do this for a while, and I'm posting here so I'll actually hold myself to it and stop procrastinating. Right now I'm overweight, and have a crappy muscle:fat ratio making up my overall weight. What my goal is basically, is to lose the fat, and gain some muscle as well. However, I'm more concerned about looking slim and being fit than gaining a lot of strength right now. I eat a lot of crap now too, so I want to reduce the amount of junk I eat, and eat somewhat healthier. I have access to basic weights and/or a bowflex machine (My Dad's), as well as a treadmill. I was thinking of doing something like a basic workout three-four days a week, and jogging most of the other days. I'm not entirely sure how to structure it or what program to use though, and how much I should change my eating habits.
tl:dr, I want to lose weight and get slim, gain some muscle (Not strength training though) Need a little help on how to go about it.
Thanks, and I'm gonna try to do this!
how do you expect to gain muscle without strength training?
on that note, if you want to lose weight, you should probably be jogging 3 times a week for 30-45min at a steady state. although, more importantly than any cardio you do, is your diet. for weight loss, low carbohydrate diets are the way to go. eat a piece of fruit or two a day as your carbohydrate sources, plus vegetables. you should eat a moderate fat amount (eggs or bacon / salmon are ok here, just be careful with the fat amount because it can be easy to overeat on) and the rest of your meals should be lean (no fat) meat, like chicken or turkey breast etc. whatever you do, keep protein the highest macro nutrient for this day.
remember that you can do as much cardio as you want but unless you clean up your diet you won't lose fat.
By no strength training, I mean that I don't want to try to bulk up, and my goal isn't to gain large amounts of muscle. I want to gain some muscle, but I don't want the emphasis to be on bodybuilding and solely increasing my strength. So I want to do strength training, but not intensely with the goal of gaining a large amount of muscle mass.
I'm probably just wording things terribly though because I'm a little drunk at the moment, and I'm a novice so I'm using the wrong terminology.
A lot of people worry about gaining a lot of muscle mass. They see Mr. Olympia and the first thing they think is "freakshow." Very few people actually desire to be that size.
...But, to get really large, it takes a lot of things. Look at some of the bigger people in this thread. Decaf, for example, is a genetic beast who has been training hard for well over a year, eating at a caloric surplus. You don't just pick up a barbell and wake up the next morning with 25" biceps; it's something you eat 8,000 calories a day for and cycle steroids for years to achieve.
Basically, nobody puts on large amounts of muscle by accident. You have nothing to worry about. You can get strong without getting huge, and usually getting huge is something that requires a lot of dedication and strategy to achieve.
On March 20 2011 18:04 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Mr. Wiggles Age: 18 || Height: 6'00" || Weight: 195 lbs Starting Date: 20/03/11 || Goal Date: 01/07/11? Weight goals -- 175 lbs?
Misc goals:
So I've been meaning to do this for a while, and I'm posting here so I'll actually hold myself to it and stop procrastinating. Right now I'm overweight, and have a crappy muscle:fat ratio making up my overall weight. What my goal is basically, is to lose the fat, and gain some muscle as well. However, I'm more concerned about looking slim and being fit than gaining a lot of strength right now. I eat a lot of crap now too, so I want to reduce the amount of junk I eat, and eat somewhat healthier. I have access to basic weights and/or a bowflex machine (My Dad's), as well as a treadmill. I was thinking of doing something like a basic workout three-four days a week, and jogging most of the other days. I'm not entirely sure how to structure it or what program to use though, and how much I should change my eating habits.
tl:dr, I want to lose weight and get slim, gain some muscle (Not strength training though) Need a little help on how to go about it.
Thanks, and I'm gonna try to do this!
how do you expect to gain muscle without strength training?
on that note, if you want to lose weight, you should probably be jogging 3 times a week for 30-45min at a steady state. although, more importantly than any cardio you do, is your diet. for weight loss, low carbohydrate diets are the way to go. eat a piece of fruit or two a day as your carbohydrate sources, plus vegetables. you should eat a moderate fat amount (eggs or bacon / salmon are ok here, just be careful with the fat amount because it can be easy to overeat on) and the rest of your meals should be lean (no fat) meat, like chicken or turkey breast etc. whatever you do, keep protein the highest macro nutrient for this day.
remember that you can do as much cardio as you want but unless you clean up your diet you won't lose fat.
By no strength training, I mean that I don't want to try to bulk up, and my goal isn't to gain large amounts of muscle. I want to gain some muscle, but I don't want the emphasis to be on bodybuilding and solely increasing my strength. So I want to do strength training, but not intensely with the goal of gaining a large amount of muscle mass.
I'm probably just wording things terribly though because I'm a little drunk at the moment, and I'm a novice so I'm using the wrong terminology.
Ok so we will forgive you since you are a novice.
The difference between cutting and bulking are really just your diet. Sure, if you're hardcore bulking you won't do any cardio at all and go for PR's every day, and if you're hardcore cutting you'll run every day and won't be able to lift as much as you used to. But when you're at that point, you don't need to ask us any questions about it and you'll just go ahead and do it if you want.
If you want to do cardio, fine go ahead- although I think the average person doesn't like slaving away at treadmills like people say you should. You can do SS without any cardio (besides warmup) and focus on your diet and you will see results. You can't gain weight with a caloric deficit, and just changing the kind of food you eat will make a significant impact.
Most people burn out on diets because they try to change things too fast; if you're worried about that, take steps. Start by cleaning up your diet and not worrying about overeating, then a couple weeks later start looking at protein/fat/carb ratios, then later counting calories or something along those lines.
We will stop being harsh on you once you join us on the dark side
On March 20 2011 18:04 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Mr. Wiggles Age: 18 || Height: 6'00" || Weight: 195 lbs Starting Date: 20/03/11 || Goal Date: 01/07/11? Weight goals -- 175 lbs?
Misc goals:
So I've been meaning to do this for a while, and I'm posting here so I'll actually hold myself to it and stop procrastinating. Right now I'm overweight, and have a crappy muscle:fat ratio making up my overall weight. What my goal is basically, is to lose the fat, and gain some muscle as well. However, I'm more concerned about looking slim and being fit than gaining a lot of strength right now. I eat a lot of crap now too, so I want to reduce the amount of junk I eat, and eat somewhat healthier. I have access to basic weights and/or a bowflex machine (My Dad's), as well as a treadmill. I was thinking of doing something like a basic workout three-four days a week, and jogging most of the other days. I'm not entirely sure how to structure it or what program to use though, and how much I should change my eating habits.
tl:dr, I want to lose weight and get slim, gain some muscle (Not strength training though) Need a little help on how to go about it.
Thanks, and I'm gonna try to do this!
how do you expect to gain muscle without strength training?
on that note, if you want to lose weight, you should probably be jogging 3 times a week for 30-45min at a steady state. although, more importantly than any cardio you do, is your diet. for weight loss, low carbohydrate diets are the way to go. eat a piece of fruit or two a day as your carbohydrate sources, plus vegetables. you should eat a moderate fat amount (eggs or bacon / salmon are ok here, just be careful with the fat amount because it can be easy to overeat on) and the rest of your meals should be lean (no fat) meat, like chicken or turkey breast etc. whatever you do, keep protein the highest macro nutrient for this day.
remember that you can do as much cardio as you want but unless you clean up your diet you won't lose fat.
By no strength training, I mean that I don't want to try to bulk up, and my goal isn't to gain large amounts of muscle. I want to gain some muscle, but I don't want the emphasis to be on bodybuilding and solely increasing my strength. So I want to do strength training, but not intensely with the goal of gaining a large amount of muscle mass.
I'm probably just wording things terribly though because I'm a little drunk at the moment, and I'm a novice so I'm using the wrong terminology.
Ha. You have years to go before you can resemble a bodybuilder. What you can do is put on a ton of strength in the next few months via a very basic lifting program like Starting Strength. I've been training for yeeeeaaaaaars and i still wouldn't really consider myself "huge" though some people here might lol.
On March 20 2011 18:04 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Mr. Wiggles Age: 18 || Height: 6'00" || Weight: 195 lbs Starting Date: 20/03/11 || Goal Date: 01/07/11? Weight goals -- 175 lbs?
Misc goals:
So I've been meaning to do this for a while, and I'm posting here so I'll actually hold myself to it and stop procrastinating. Right now I'm overweight, and have a crappy muscle:fat ratio making up my overall weight. What my goal is basically, is to lose the fat, and gain some muscle as well. However, I'm more concerned about looking slim and being fit than gaining a lot of strength right now. I eat a lot of crap now too, so I want to reduce the amount of junk I eat, and eat somewhat healthier. I have access to basic weights and/or a bowflex machine (My Dad's), as well as a treadmill. I was thinking of doing something like a basic workout three-four days a week, and jogging most of the other days. I'm not entirely sure how to structure it or what program to use though, and how much I should change my eating habits.
tl:dr, I want to lose weight and get slim, gain some muscle (Not strength training though) Need a little help on how to go about it.
Thanks, and I'm gonna try to do this!
how do you expect to gain muscle without strength training?
on that note, if you want to lose weight, you should probably be jogging 3 times a week for 30-45min at a steady state. although, more importantly than any cardio you do, is your diet. for weight loss, low carbohydrate diets are the way to go. eat a piece of fruit or two a day as your carbohydrate sources, plus vegetables. you should eat a moderate fat amount (eggs or bacon / salmon are ok here, just be careful with the fat amount because it can be easy to overeat on) and the rest of your meals should be lean (no fat) meat, like chicken or turkey breast etc. whatever you do, keep protein the highest macro nutrient for this day.
remember that you can do as much cardio as you want but unless you clean up your diet you won't lose fat.
By no strength training, I mean that I don't want to try to bulk up, and my goal isn't to gain large amounts of muscle. I want to gain some muscle, but I don't want the emphasis to be on bodybuilding and solely increasing my strength. So I want to do strength training, but not intensely with the goal of gaining a large amount of muscle mass.
I'm probably just wording things terribly though because I'm a little drunk at the moment, and I'm a novice so I'm using the wrong terminology.
Ha. You have years to go before you can resemble a bodybuilder. What you can do is put on a ton of strength in the next few months via a very basic lifting program like Starting Strength. I've been training for yeeeeaaaaaars and i still wouldn't really consider myself "huge" though some people here might lol.
I was actually going to say that... I wouldn't consider you huge, but that may just be because when I think "huge" I mean almost unrealistic and something I wouldn't want to look like.
Too lazy to go look at your vids again but pretty sure you look more like wide-receiver jacked than like running back or stereotypical olympic lifter.
On March 20 2011 15:35 Warrior Madness wrote: Also what do you guys eat on a daily basis? I have some trouble eating a high calorie diet especially on paleo. My average would probably be around 1800-2100 calories, consisting mostly of fat. Now my goal is to put on 10lb of muscle and to lose a lot of fat. I'm currently 183lb at 20% bodyfat. I'm 5'10. So should I be aiming for a certain amount of calories? Following the paleo diet I learned to just keep eating until you're not hungry, but I also barely exercised at that time.
no the gym has no squat rack. apparently everyone in shanghai thinks squats are best done in the smith machine. several self proclaimed personal trainers i've talked to say squats are better in the smith machine.
sometimes i wonder how we have some of the most elite lifters in the world.
On March 20 2011 15:35 Warrior Madness wrote: Also what do you guys eat on a daily basis? I have some trouble eating a high calorie diet especially on paleo. My average would probably be around 1800-2100 calories, consisting mostly of fat. Now my goal is to put on 10lb of muscle and to lose a lot of fat. I'm currently 183lb at 20% bodyfat. I'm 5'10. So should I be aiming for a certain amount of calories? Following the paleo diet I learned to just keep eating until you're not hungry, but I also barely exercised at that time.
Thanks decaf. Seems like you're ona semi paleo diet and get most of your meat from milk, ground beef chicken (Heh, me too minus the milk).
Regarding soreness, I found these interesting quotes by ripptoe:
"Waiting before soreness subsides before doing the next workout is a good way to guarantee that soreness will be produced every time, since the athlete never gets adapted to sufficient workload frequency to stop getting sore"
"Soreness, unless it is extreme, is no impediment to training. In fact, many records have been set by sore athletes..."But, in general, if the warm-up returns the movement to its normal range of motion, the workout can be done"
The only thing I'll probably change is taking BCAA supplements just to make sure I get the most bang for the buck from these lifts. And maybe using some cold and hot packs to alleviate some of the soreness.
Today was just plain disgustingly hard. Like sickening.
AM: Snatch- up to 140kg Snatch- up to 141kg Snatch with Pause at Knee (3 sets of 2): 120, 120, 125kg Clean and Jerk- up to 170kg
PM: Snatch- up to 140kg Snatch- up to 140kg,143x1,146x1, 120kgx3 Cleans- up to 165kg, 150kgx3x2 Squats- up to 205kgx3, 190x5, 195x2x5
Night: Snatch- up to 140kgx1
Omgsh I attempted over a 140 snatch 30+ times today!! haha wooowwwww to say I Am exhausted is like the understatement of the century. But dang 150kg snatch is right around the corner...
I almost feel like I just got hit by a semi...then dragged for like 6 miles, then beaten with a baseball bat, then chinese tickle tortured, then tickled for an hour, then punched in the back by Mike Tyson for 10 minutes, then kicked in the legs by George St. Pierre. OH, then mentally it's like being kicked in the head by Anderson Silva. Well, at least that's about how mentally sharp I Feel right now. Straight ballin today haha!