TL Health and Fitness Initiative 2011 - Page 126

On March 19 2011 13:15 eshlow wrote:
Warrior:

Are you including the bar in your lifts?

The bar is 45 lbs/20kg generally... to do a 50 lbs bench/squat you would put 2.5 lbs on either side which would look pretty retarded.

The bar counts as weight you know so add 45 lbs to each if you we're doing that.

On March 19 2011 13:53 Warrior Madness wrote:


Ohh damnn, beginners gains, +45lb after one night. I never did add the bar to my benchmarks. I'm not sure if those were olympic bars at the gym though. I'm pretty sure most Mcgyms use olympic bars but it didn't seem that long or heavy, but it was definitely thick.

I think worse comes to worse I will invest in some cheap bumper plates and just bring it to the gym for deadlifts. It really is annoying to deadlift without them.

On March 19 2011 14:06 vicariouscheese wrote:


I have yet to see a barbell that wasn't 45lbs, I think it's safe to assume any random bar is unless you're at a place that has tons of barbells and has lighter ones on the side.

Huh I've never thought of/seen deadlifting with bumper plates. I guess it makes sense, it's just that unless you're going for a 1RM, it's not really an issue.

Scared the shit out of people in the smith machine next to me when I had to miss a squat... I don't think many people in commercial gyms ever see people drop barbells off their backs like that. Also pretty loud I guess, I dunno since I always have my music up higher for work sets. Made me a little angry since I knew I failed and got 5/5/4 because of lack of sleep and food.

On March 19 2011 14:06 vicariouscheese wrote:
Made me a little angry since I knew I failed and got 5/5/4 because of lack of sleep and food.

On March 20 2011 05:22 decafchicken wrote:
was making a cut and I rolled on the outside of my ankle and heard a pop. I have it wrapped and iced. got anything for me eshlow? (this was like 10 minutes ago)

On March 20 2011 02:28 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
Alright, pretty big update. I'll try to squeeze it into a pretty short post.

I have finished Starting Strength. My linear progression finished in a pretty fantastic way in my last workout, and it's pretty obvious that my lifts aren't going anywhere on sessionly progression anymore. Here are my final numbers:

Squat: 110kgx5x3
Bench: 92kgx5x3
Press: 66kgx5x3
Dead: 155kgx5x1
Chin: +17kgx5x3
Pull: +14kgx5x3
Dip: +18kgx5x2

I was previously thinking about moving into Madcow's, but then I realize how far behind my squat is, how much I love front squatting, and how awesome olympic lifting is. Therefore, I've decided to start an olympic lifting program suitable for beginning olympic lifters/intermediate lifters.

I've been looking around, and it's hard to find something good. The Bulgarian program looks nice, but it's twice a day ... I could possibly pull it off, but I don't have the level of strength/steroids to take full benefits of it. One other program I found was designed by Dan John (http://danjohn.net/beginners/), which is very straightforward and simplistic in its progression/ideology. Another program I found by Dr. Mike Stone (http://www.exrx.net/WeightTraining/Weightlifting/BasicWeightLifting.html) is nice in that it's a four day a week program (which I'm going for due to time constraints), but it's also AM/PM. The AM/PM just makes it sound like it's a pretty big load, although the AM workouts are typically pretty short. I think I can squeeze in both workouts if I do a Mon/Tue/Fri/Sat schedule just fine, but I'm not sure if this is ideal for me.

Also, if anyone can repost that awesome guide to the C&J and Snatch I'd appreciate it.

Anybody have a good idea? Dimsum? Decaf? Eshlow?

It's time for me to stop being so chicken legged and go t-rex mode .

On March 20 2011 18:04 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Mr. Wiggles
Age: 18 || Height: 6'00" || Weight: 195 lbs
Starting Date: 20/03/11 || Goal Date: 01/07/11?
Weight goals -- 175 lbs?

Misc goals:

So I've been meaning to do this for a while, and I'm posting here so I'll actually hold myself to it and stop procrastinating. Right now I'm overweight, and have a crappy muscle:fat ratio making up my overall weight. What my goal is basically, is to lose the fat, and gain some muscle as well. However, I'm more concerned about looking slim and being fit than gaining a lot of strength right now. I eat a lot of crap now too, so I want to reduce the amount of junk I eat, and eat somewhat healthier. I have access to basic weights and/or a bowflex machine (My Dad's), as well as a treadmill. I was thinking of doing something like a basic workout three-four days a week, and jogging most of the other days. I'm not entirely sure how to structure it or what program to use though, and how much I should change my eating habits.

tl:dr, I want to lose weight and get slim, gain some muscle (Not strength training though) Need a little help on how to go about it.

Thanks, and I'm gonna try to do this!

On March 20 2011 16:28 decafchicken wrote:
Alleviate it by being more awesome. Keep lifting and you'll find yourself not getting sore and doing manly feats. at 180 you should be smashing at least 3k cal. Theres a pic of my diet a few pages back...i'll pull it up when im sober if you cant find it.

P.S. Fuck bitches, fuck injuries. Wish i had a barbell and working ankles to exert my anger on T_T

On March 20 2011 18:13 Sinep wrote:


how do you expect to gain muscle without strength training?

on that note, if you want to lose weight, you should probably be jogging 3 times a week for 30-45min at a steady state. although, more importantly than any cardio you do, is your diet. for weight loss, low carbohydrate diets are the way to go. eat a piece of fruit or two a day as your carbohydrate sources, plus vegetables. you should eat a moderate fat amount (eggs or bacon / salmon are ok here, just be careful with the fat amount because it can be easy to overeat on) and the rest of your meals should be lean (no fat) meat, like chicken or turkey breast etc. whatever you do, keep protein the highest macro nutrient for this day.

remember that you can do as much cardio as you want but unless you clean up your diet you won't lose fat.