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radiaL
Profile Joined August 2003
Andorra2690 Posts
March 23 2011 05:59 GMT
#2601
On March 23 2011 14:53 decafchicken wrote:
I'm a fan of "chug three glasses of milk and eat a pound of chicken so fast your body doesnt know its full"


lmfao guys stop saying awesome hilarious stuff, my facebook statuses can't keep up
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Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 14:24:10
March 23 2011 13:36 GMT
#2602
insane numbers decaf! wish I could squat 425lbs..

strange workout today... went for 127.5kg squat again (after failing the last two times). first five reps went ok. then, in the second set, I had to drop the bar on the 4th rep... since I felt like I failed due to poor form and not necessarily because I was too weak, I just went for it again and I fucking did 5 clean reps! like a boss.

so yeah, that was pretty great and I felt awesome. but I was so exhausted after that that I couldnt even get 1 rep of 92.5kg bench press lol (almost killed myself too! had no spotter because gym was empty ). so I did the rest of the bench presses on a machine ^^

after that, I was even more exhausted so I failed 70kg power cleans pretty badly ^^ didnt even manage to do 5 sets.

its been a crazy couple of weeks though with lots of exercise (I play table tennis as well) and not as much food as I probably should have eaten (dropped a few pounds as well I think). so i'm just gonna lay low a bit for the coming week and eat lots of milk. hopefully i'll be able to get 145kg deadlift on friday! (and of course 130kg squat!)
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 14:13:03
March 23 2011 13:44 GMT
#2603
kekeke, done "researching" and I've decided to try out the anabolic diet. It's pretty much a very low carb paleo diet with two days of carb loading on the weekends. The author of the diet is a worldclass powerlifter turned doctor of sports medicine and has won the world title in the past and has also won the Canadian title 8 times. The thing is, I've felt most energetic and alert on a low carb paleo diet. I don't see how a paleo diet in anyway will restrict mass gain or strength gain as long as your eating 250-300g of protein a day and eating a total of 3000+ calories a day. Mark Ripptoe states that you're not doing the program (YNDTP) if you're not consuming 6000 calories OR 3500 on a PALEO diet.

The Metabolic Diet controls the major muscle building and fat burning hormones in
the body to maximize muscle mass and minimize bodyfat.

These hormones include testosterone, growth hormone, IGF-I, insulin, thyroid, and
cortisol.


The diet itself goes something like this. For the first two weeks on weekdays you eat about 30g of carbs while eating a high fat, high protein diet. And on weekends you "carb load" and eat 150+ grams of carbs with protein making up something like 10% of your diet. The reasons for why are dealt with in his book "The Anabolic Solution for power lifters."

Anyway, after this you sort of follow a cool troubleshooting guide, or a flow chart. You're trying to determine what your optimal minimal amount of carbs are. You pretty much do follow a flow chart i.e. After two week assessment, are you feeling tired or energetic? --> tired --> Mild or Moderate? Moderate. --> Variations in diet: Lack energy during all week or during training? All week. Increase carbs 30g a day ....etc.

Gonna see how it goes. I still remember some of my numbers too when I did SS on a "normal" diet. So I can compare them.

Typical diet (at least for me) would probably consist of something like this:

[image loading]

And on the weekend, eating unlimited sushi and sweet potato french fries.
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phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 15:10:47
March 23 2011 15:07 GMT
#2604
I thought I was getting better over break.

[image loading]

I was wrong. The red circles are sites of pretty significant swelling. The blue arrow is pointed towards the back/center of the knee where there's a shooting pain whenever my knee is bent, as well as a general soreness at all other times. The green circle is a source of constant but lesser pain, as well as a severe "burning" sensation whenever I try to stand up from sitting - made especially worse if I'm weighed down, such as with my book bag.

I'm not improving like I had hoped. I'll have suck it up and go find an orthopedic doctor here in Syracuse. It's going to be a LONG time before I squat again guys =/.
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 15:32:44
March 23 2011 15:24 GMT
#2605
the important thing is that you get help mate no point in dragging this injury along for months/years because then it will take even longer before you can squat again.

@warrior madness: I love how meticulous you are about your diet and exercise nerdy and strong! a good combo
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
March 23 2011 18:14 GMT
#2606
On March 23 2011 22:44 Warrior Madness wrote:
kekeke, done "researching" and I've decided to try out the anabolic diet. It's pretty much a very low carb paleo diet with two days of carb loading on the weekends. The author of the diet is a worldclass powerlifter turned doctor of sports medicine and has won the world title in the past and has also won the Canadian title 8 times. The thing is, I've felt most energetic and alert on a low carb paleo diet. I don't see how a paleo diet in anyway will restrict mass gain or strength gain as long as your eating 250-300g of protein a day and eating a total of 3000+ calories a day. Mark Ripptoe states that you're not doing the program (YNDTP) if you're not consuming 6000 calories OR 3500 on a PALEO diet.

Show nested quote +
The Metabolic Diet controls the major muscle building and fat burning hormones in
the body to maximize muscle mass and minimize bodyfat.

These hormones include testosterone, growth hormone, IGF-I, insulin, thyroid, and
cortisol.


The diet itself goes something like this. For the first two weeks on weekdays you eat about 30g of carbs while eating a high fat, high protein diet. And on weekends you "carb load" and eat 150+ grams of carbs with protein making up something like 10% of your diet. The reasons for why are dealt with in his book "The Anabolic Solution for power lifters."

Anyway, after this you sort of follow a cool troubleshooting guide, or a flow chart. You're trying to determine what your optimal minimal amount of carbs are. You pretty much do follow a flow chart i.e. After two week assessment, are you feeling tired or energetic? --> tired --> Mild or Moderate? Moderate. --> Variations in diet: Lack energy during all week or during training? All week. Increase carbs 30g a day ....etc.

Gonna see how it goes. I still remember some of my numbers too when I did SS on a "normal" diet. So I can compare them.

Typical diet (at least for me) would probably consist of something like this:

[image loading]

And on the weekend, eating unlimited sushi and sweet potato french fries.


Wohoo! Like the anabolic diet. If I weren't so carbdepended I'd go for it. I'll stay in the Seefood diet a little while more though.

Killer link if you ever get bored of your quite boring and monotonous diet plan you linked to: Clicky!

Your plan also severely needs more veggies. Could you link me the "The Anabolic Solution for power lifters."?

@Phyre: GTFO to the doc! And possibly you will be squatting pain free after 1-2 shots of cortisone but maybe something else has happened and more fixing is required.

Stupid cold/flu dragging on forever...
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
March 23 2011 21:02 GMT
#2607
Does anyone do yoga here? I recently started (since Monday) doing hot yoga to help with core strengths and flexibility. I feel fucking great. It's like an hour of stretching and you get to stare at hot girls --> WIN + WIN
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
March 23 2011 21:16 GMT
#2608
On March 24 2011 06:02 Cambium wrote:
Does anyone do yoga here? I recently started (since Monday) doing hot yoga to help with core strengths and flexibility. I feel fucking great. It's like an hour of stretching and you get to stare at hot girls --> WIN + WIN


I really wanted to do yoga, because I do have flexibility issues, but there's nowhere on/near campus to do it more than twice a month =/. I've been to a few classes though, and I agree it's definitely a winning situation.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
March 23 2011 21:34 GMT
#2609
^ah that sucks

I think I'm going to do it at home after I get the hang of it; I have a dock on the lake, and I think it would be really cool to just roll out the mat on a sunny day
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Advocado
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Denmark994 Posts
March 23 2011 23:20 GMT
#2610
Feel ya sjarl. Got a cold/flu hitting me pretty hard, funny thing is that i'm wondering wether it's just plain stupid on my behalf. Just found out after sleeping a few hours, that my window was not properly closed. Sigh.

Gonna go train tomorrow (thurs) and then friday. Can my body benefit from this? I don't usually train on weekends, because it's full of pumped up people.
http://www.twitch.tv/advocadosc2
Dalguno
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2446 Posts
March 23 2011 23:39 GMT
#2611
Found this with the link by nataziel, thanks to him!

Some goals for myself is to get down to 180 from 190ish by this time next month for prom.
I'm gonna do that by eating a "primal" diet, which I'll bet a lot of people know about.

-No grains
-Under 100g carbs/ day
-Around 1800 cals/day
-Another thing that helps me is not eating past 5pm, so I'll try that too.
-Gonna try to get in some basketball every day.
"I'm gonna keep making drones cause I'm a baller, and ballers make drones." -Snute
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
March 24 2011 00:17 GMT
#2612
On March 24 2011 08:39 Dalguno wrote:
Found this with the link by nataziel, thanks to him!

Some goals for myself is to get down to 180 from 190ish by this time next month for prom.
I'm gonna do that by eating a "primal" diet, which I'll bet a lot of people know about.

-No grains
-Under 100g carbs/ day
-Around 1800 cals/day
-Another thing that helps me is not eating past 5pm, so I'll try that too.
-Gonna try to get in some basketball every day.


Dude, 1800 cals/day is just way to low, even if you are a girl. Up some clean calories and add some heavy weightlifting and you'll be looking pretty good.
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20173 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 00:34:11
March 24 2011 00:29 GMT
#2613
Had a couple nice powerclean and jerks at 120kg..never done that much! Legs were sore from squatting yesterday so i didn't really feel like going into the full front squat lol.
Also had a snatch contest with my roomate. Except i was snatching and he was clean and jerking. we tied at 100kg

@eshlow.. i have a case of "water on the knee" i think from hitting my knee on the ground in rugby. I've had it for about a week or so, is this gonna go away on its own or will i need to have it drained or something? There's no pain at all. Also got anything good for ankle rehab/strengthening?

On March 24 2011 08:39 Dalguno wrote:
Found this with the link by nataziel, thanks to him!

Some goals for myself is to get down to 180 from 190ish by this time next month for prom.
I'm gonna do that by eating a "primal" diet, which I'll bet a lot of people know about.

-No grains
-Under 100g carbs/ day
-Around 1800 cals/day
-Another thing that helps me is not eating past 5pm, so I'll try that too.
-Gonna try to get in some basketball every day.


1800 cals is nothing, especially if you're doing any sort of exercise. I'd add at least 500 more calories and you could really benefit from a nice compound barbell program (see: starting strength)
Dont worry about eating past 5pm (unless you're doing something specific like intermittent fasting), as long as you have your calories in check you'll be fine. The reason behind the dont eat at night thing is people tend to binge on more meals/snacks as the night goes on so as long as you dont there's nothing to worry about. Whats your current height?

On March 24 2011 08:20 Advocado wrote:
Feel ya sjarl. Got a cold/flu hitting me pretty hard, funny thing is that i'm wondering wether it's just plain stupid on my behalf. Just found out after sleeping a few hours, that my window was not properly closed. Sigh.

Gonna go train tomorrow (thurs) and then friday. Can my body benefit from this? I don't usually train on weekends, because it's full of pumped up people.


a) vitamin d!
b) if you feel decent i'd say get a workout in. If your still sick its probably not a good idea (something about your muscles cant repair cause your body is dying or your body is dying cause its repairing its muscles...idk ask eshlow :D)

On March 24 2011 06:02 Cambium wrote:
Does anyone do yoga here? I recently started (since Monday) doing hot yoga to help with core strengths and flexibility. I feel fucking great. It's like an hour of stretching and you get to stare at hot girls --> WIN + WIN


haha hot sweaty girls in tight pants <3 I'm already super flexible so i dont really need it, however i'm sure i have a lot of random muscles in my body that could benefit from it...
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Dalguno
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2446 Posts
March 24 2011 00:39 GMT
#2614
1800 cals is nothing, especially if you're doing any sort of exercise. I'd add at least 500 more calories and you could really benefit from a nice compound barbell program (see: starting strength)
Dont worry about eating past 5pm (unless you're doing something specific like intermittent fasting), as long as you have your calories in check you'll be fine. The reason behind the dont eat at night thing is people tend to binge on more meals/snacks as the night goes on so as long as you dont there's nothing to worry about. Whats your current height?


I'm 5'11". In the past, 1800 has seemed about the right spot. And the 5 o'clock is indeed for a warrior diet style. I don't eat much in the early day, and get home at 3 and usually eat big meal then. It's what's worked, but at the same time, I'm open to suggestions.
My time is really constrained, which is why I choose playing basketball for exercise over a weight program: I want to do something I really enjoy with what time I have. This summer, heck yeah, I'll hit up the weights, because I'll have time on my hands (I hope).
"I'm gonna keep making drones cause I'm a baller, and ballers make drones." -Snute
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20173 Posts
March 24 2011 00:48 GMT
#2615
On March 24 2011 09:39 Dalguno wrote:
Show nested quote +
1800 cals is nothing, especially if you're doing any sort of exercise. I'd add at least 500 more calories and you could really benefit from a nice compound barbell program (see: starting strength)
Dont worry about eating past 5pm (unless you're doing something specific like intermittent fasting), as long as you have your calories in check you'll be fine. The reason behind the dont eat at night thing is people tend to binge on more meals/snacks as the night goes on so as long as you dont there's nothing to worry about. Whats your current height?


I'm 5'11". In the past, 1800 has seemed about the right spot. And the 5 o'clock is indeed for a warrior diet style. I don't eat much in the early day, and get home at 3 and usually eat big meal then. It's what's worked, but at the same time, I'm open to suggestions.
My time is really constrained, which is why I choose playing basketball for exercise over a weight program: I want to do something I really enjoy with what time I have. This summer, heck yeah, I'll hit up the weights, because I'll have time on my hands (I hope).


Hmm might wanna look into some of this if you havent already:
http://www.leangains.com/
And the diet you're referring to is called "paleo"

Your base bmr is ~2000 which is then multiplied by your activity, which if you're at all active is gonna put you at 2500-3000 calories a day. You want to be eating at somewhere around a 300-500 calorie deficit per day for weight loss, 1200 is just unhealthy.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Dalguno
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2446 Posts
March 24 2011 00:52 GMT
#2616


Hmm might wanna look into some of this if you havent already:
http://www.leangains.com/
And the diet you're referring to is called "paleo"

Your base bmr is ~2000 which is then multiplied by your activity, which if you're at all active is gonna put you at 2500-3000 calories a day. You want to be eating at somewhere around a 300-500 calorie deficit per day for weight loss, 1200 is just unhealthy.


I'll look into it. The website I've looked at is http://www.marksdailyapple.com
It called it Primal, so that's what I went by.
From what I've heard 2 pounds a week is healthy, so I'm assuming 7,000 calorie deficit/week is not too bad?
"I'm gonna keep making drones cause I'm a baller, and ballers make drones." -Snute
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20173 Posts
March 24 2011 00:55 GMT
#2617
On March 24 2011 09:52 Dalguno wrote:

Show nested quote +

Hmm might wanna look into some of this if you havent already:
http://www.leangains.com/
And the diet you're referring to is called "paleo"

Your base bmr is ~2000 which is then multiplied by your activity, which if you're at all active is gonna put you at 2500-3000 calories a day. You want to be eating at somewhere around a 300-500 calorie deficit per day for weight loss, 1200 is just unhealthy.


I'll look into it. The website I've looked at is http://www.marksdailyapple.com
It called it Primal, so that's what I went by.
From what I've heard 2 pounds a week is healthy, so I'm assuming 7,000 calorie deficit/week is not too bad?


I guess i'm thinking of it from a weightlifters perspective, i.e. if i'm cutting and don't want to deprive my muscles. But if you're not lifting it might be okay, maybe someone else can shed some light on this.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
March 24 2011 01:49 GMT
#2618
phyre:

Really does sound like a meniscus injury. Ortho ASAP. Arthroscopic surgery might be indicated for that.

------------------------------

Cold/Flu:

Vitamin D
http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2009/10/a-closer-look-at-vitamin-d/

-------------------------------

decaf;

swelling = RICE that joint and some anti-inflams. Even if it doesn't hurt swelling means some inflammation present

Ankle/foot exercises on page 4 of this article:
http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2009/11/shoes-sitting-and-lower-body-dysfunctions/

"Foot drills" will be particular effective
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
March 24 2011 01:55 GMT
#2619
What do you always mean by RICE that joint?
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
nataziel
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Australia1455 Posts
March 24 2011 02:21 GMT
#2620
RICE = Rest, Ice, Compression, Elevation.

Basically it means rest the join, ice it every few hours, wrap it with a bandage while not icing, and keep it raised.
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