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funkie
Venezuela9376 Posts
I just follow decaf's diet to some extent, and always try to eat as clean as possible. Rice and stuff for the calorie intake, and well, adding some dressing to salad and stuff is always a plus to help the taste.  I used to read Men's Health, but I never dig into their diet articles or anything. I just liked the big articles about working out, and how cardio is good, and their short writings about "so called shitty food" being good to some level.cheers, and Lift hard! | ||
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decafchicken
United States20164 Posts
On March 05 2011 00:37 jjun212 wrote: Sigh.... I'm sure a lot of you guys have been on many different forums, like bodybuilding.. or read Men's Health or just talk to a friend who's an expert. And.. don't you get such conflicting advice??? Some people say eat this, others say, no don't eat that, are you stupid? Other people say do that and others say no don't do that, are you stupid? And they all provide links to "studies" that prove what they are saying. It's like EVERYTHING in the world is bad for you. Unless it's obviously good like water, clean chicken breast with like nothing on it or fish. Anything else is borderline cancerous. For example... I ask about eating nuts, some people say good protein snack, others say too much fat and carbs. I try to eat fruit that are low in sugar like berries, some people say it's good because of all the anti-aging factors and vitamins and fibre, others call me out for being weak and saying just give up on sugar all together because sugar is still sugar and it's bad for you and it doesn't matter if it's from a fruit. Like WTF? When in doubt...I usually ask eshlow. If he's misinformed then i'll probably die in 3 years but if not i should be in great shape :D Mostly...just eat real food. My diet looks something like this: ![[image loading]](http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/8799/dietv.jpg) | ||
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Zafrumi
Switzerland1272 Posts
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RosaParksStoleMySeat
Japan926 Posts
On March 05 2011 00:37 jjun212 wrote: Sigh.... I'm sure a lot of you guys have been on many different forums, like bodybuilding.. or read Men's Health or just talk to a friend who's an expert. And.. don't you get such conflicting advice??? Some people say eat this, others say, no don't eat that, are you stupid? Other people say do that and others say no don't do that, are you stupid? And they all provide links to "studies" that prove what they are saying. It's like EVERYTHING in the world is bad for you. Unless it's obviously good like water, clean chicken breast with like nothing on it or fish. Anything else is borderline cancerous. For example... I ask about eating nuts, some people say good protein snack, others say too much fat and carbs. I try to eat fruit that are low in sugar like berries, some people say it's good because of all the anti-aging factors and vitamins and fibre, others call me out for being weak and saying just give up on sugar all together because sugar is still sugar and it's bad for you and it doesn't matter if it's from a fruit. Like WTF? I've been in the same position before. In the end, I decided to just stick to eating real food 80% of the time, and then cheating the other 20% of the time. By real food I'm saying Jack Lalanne's golden rule: if man made it, don't eat it. It's therefore OK to eat steak, eggs, chicken, all other meats and fish, fruits, vegetables, and the like, but we should avoid bread, pasta, and so on. The reason why I settled on this conclusion is that I looked at the people who follow this advice. Robb Wolf, for example, practices what he preaches and has an amazing physique to show for it. Jack Lalanne needs no further introduction, as he lived until his late 90's, still pulling incredible feats of strength at 95. Cutting bodybuilders go low carb when they cut bodyfat because they know it's the fastest way. The past 40 years have brought a change in our understanding of nutrition ... although using the word "understanding" here is kind of inappropriate. Rather, the past 40 years have brought a change in the paradigm, and look at what has happened in these years. We're hungrier, sicker, shorter, and fatter than we have ever been, and people still attribute this to us apparently getting lazier. To be fair this can partially be attributed to more sedentary lifestyles in modern times, but honestly, exercise has far less to do with obesity than diet. Just eat real food is my advice. Fruits, vegetables, meats, and so on, are all fine. They're real. They came straight from the ground, the tree, or the animal. If you're trying to lose weight you may want to lower your fruit intake to one serving a day, but other than that, this is the way to stay healthy. | ||
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decafchicken
United States20164 Posts
On March 05 2011 02:20 Zafrumi wrote: nailed 112.5kg squat and 135kg deadlift today. nice! Great lifts! Keep it up :D | ||
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Zafrumi
Switzerland1272 Posts
gonna go all out on eating and lifting until april and start cutting so I can pull beach cuties with washboard abs in the summer! :Dabout nutrition theories: yes, its true that you can back almost every claim up with tons of studies.. in the end, you have to choose for yourself what makes the most sense to YOU! I chose paleo because I believe in evolution and that our bodies have adopted to a high protein/fat diet during the first 2mio years of our existence. it just makes the most sense in my opinion (plus vegetarians are hippies! and high carb diets just dont make sense from a scientific standpoint imo) | ||
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frawress
United States22 Posts
Todays Workout Squat 45x3x5 Bench Press 45x2x5 55x1x5 65x1x3 75x1x2 80x3x5 (failed the 5th rep on sets 2 and 3) Deadlift 65x1x5 75x1x5 85x1x3 90x3x5 Felt Great .Going to try and start OHP's and cleans next week but I need to finish reading first, I've been slacking ): | ||
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vicariouscheese
United States589 Posts
On March 05 2011 03:44 frawress wrote: Got some chucks yesterday :D. Todays Workout Squat 45x3x5 Bench Press 45x2x5 55x1x5 65x1x3 75x1x2 80x3x5 (failed the 5th rep on sets 2 and 3) Deadlift 65x1x5 75x1x5 85x1x3 90x3x5 Felt Great .Going to try and start OHP's and cleans next week but I need to finish reading first, I've been slacking ): In case you don't know, SS only has one work set for deadlifts if that's what you're following :O | ||
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frawress
United States22 Posts
On March 05 2011 05:17 vicariouscheese wrote: In case you don't know, SS only has one work set for deadlifts if that's what you're following :O Ah, you're right -_-. Well I should be able to increase weight since I did those 3 sets relatively easily and I'm not doing very much weight for squats. I think I'll get a logbook. | ||
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Advocado
Denmark994 Posts
Might upload some pics later, but I'm guessing from my numbers that I would be better off eating like a pig while lifting. | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On March 05 2011 00:37 jjun212 wrote: Sigh.... I'm sure a lot of you guys have been on many different forums, like bodybuilding.. or read Men's Health or just talk to a friend who's an expert. And.. don't you get such conflicting advice??? Some people say eat this, others say, no don't eat that, are you stupid? Other people say do that and others say no don't do that, are you stupid? And they all provide links to "studies" that prove what they are saying. It's like EVERYTHING in the world is bad for you. Unless it's obviously good like water, clean chicken breast with like nothing on it or fish. Anything else is borderline cancerous. For example... I ask about eating nuts, some people say good protein snack, others say too much fat and carbs. I try to eat fruit that are low in sugar like berries, some people say it's good because of all the anti-aging factors and vitamins and fibre, others call me out for being weak and saying just give up on sugar all together because sugar is still sugar and it's bad for you and it doesn't matter if it's from a fruit. Like WTF? You should know that 99.99% of people on those sites are idiots.... never go to any common site for advice because all you'll get is a bunch of myths mixed with half truths | ||
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Eric9
United States125 Posts
I started lifting about 6 months ago. But most of the time has been me watching others in the gym to learn the exercises. I would say I "started" my program about a month ago. 6 days total in the gym, 3 days a week lifting w/ split-body routine and 3 days a week cardio on treadmill, eliptical or stairmaster for 30mins. Wednesday is rest day/homework day. Just wondering if I'm making decent progress. Here's my current week's routine and variables: M - Chest Dumbbell Bench Press @ 90lbs (10repsx5sets) Dumbbell Incline Press @ 80 (10x5) Dumbbell Decline Press @ 60 (10x5) Machine Flyes @ 60 (10x5) W - Back Lat Pulldowns @ 130 (10x5) Machine Rows Close-grip @ 100 (10x5) Machine Rows Wide-grip @ 80 (10x5) Machine High Rows @ 100 (10x5) Machine Low Rows @ 100 (10x5) That one pole in the corner that you put weights on the front of and lift it halfway off the ground by pulling it towards you @ 135 (10x5) F - Shoulders/Biceps Arnold Dumbbell Shoulder Press @ 60 (10x5) Machine Shoulder Press @ 140 (10x5) Shoulder Shrugs @ 90 (10x5) Barbell Curls @ 40 (8x5) Hammer Curls @ 40 (8x5) Dumbbell Curls @ 40 (8x5) Various lightweight dumbbell exercises with 10lbs or 15lbs where you lift them to the front or to the side. Dont know the name of any of them. Conclusion As you can tell I have a limited vocabulary in weight training. Are there any changes I should make to better my routine or does it seem like what I'm doing so far is adequate for weight loss/toning? Since last September when I started my 24 hour fitness membership I've dropped from a 36 waist to a 32 waist and gained very slight definition and toughness in my muscles. My weight has fluctuated between 161 (at the beginning) down to 146 (around December/Jan) and now is at 151. EDIT: If there's any beginner programs out there that have worked for you please suggest them!! | ||
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FyRe_DragOn
Canada2056 Posts
or stronglifts, as it is very similar | ||
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decafchicken
United States20164 Posts
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decafchicken
United States20164 Posts
Hopefully my body makes it through the week...time for months of being awesome to pay off on the beach. See you guys in 10 days, lift extra hard for me :D | ||
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Zafrumi
Switzerland1272 Posts
do starting strength @ eric9 ! it will make your life awesome | ||
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Warrior Madness
Canada3791 Posts
On March 05 2011 00:37 jjun212 wrote: Sigh.... I'm sure a lot of you guys have been on many different forums, like bodybuilding.. or read Men's Health or just talk to a friend who's an expert. And.. don't you get such conflicting advice??? Some people say eat this, others say, no don't eat that, are you stupid? Other people say do that and others say no don't do that, are you stupid? And they all provide links to "studies" that prove what they are saying. It's like EVERYTHING in the world is bad for you. Unless it's obviously good like water, clean chicken breast with like nothing on it or fish. Anything else is borderline cancerous. For example... I ask about eating nuts, some people say good protein snack, others say too much fat and carbs. I try to eat fruit that are low in sugar like berries, some people say it's good because of all the anti-aging factors and vitamins and fibre, others call me out for being weak and saying just give up on sugar all together because sugar is still sugar and it's bad for you and it doesn't matter if it's from a fruit. Like WTF? Just like with everything else a healthy dose of skepticism, common sense and good reasoning should guide your choices. I rarely listen to someone's firsthand account of something, ESPECIALLY a study that supports their certain claim. Some studies are poorly done, small sample sizes, uncontrolled variables etc. If you want to learn how to properly read a clinical study a good place to start is "How to Read a Paper: The Basics of Evidence Based Medicine." + Show Spoiler + http://www.amazon.com/How-Read-Paper-Evidence-Based-Medicine/dp/1444334360/ref=wl_it_dp_o?ie=UTF8&coliid=I226PXSKP7HRGF&colid=1ER9OZGFPS8S1 The next thing to take into account is what exactly is the scientific mechanism behind the whys and why nots of the diet? Does it even have one? For example, one of the biggest benefits the paleo diet offers is that you can greatly control your insulin levels by controlling your blood sugar levels. All forms of carbs cause blood sugar spikes whereas fats and protein are relatively stable. A stable insulin level and blood sugar level are desirable things. And lastly maybe most importantly is n=1. How do YOU feel? How's it affecting YOUR goals, your lifts, your sprinting times, your energy levels? Medications don't work for some people even if they have amazing results with others. Same thing applies to diets. Also it's always smart to get extensive bloodwork done before dieting, so you can compare the current diet you're doing after a month or so. I had a full bloodwork done that showed how generally inflammed my body was, how high my cholestoral was, how at risk I was for diabetes, my thyroids health, etc. before even starting my diet. Not to mention my bodyfat percentage, weight, and body measurments. | ||
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Alexson
Belarus293 Posts
and Decaf, what program/website is this? ![[image loading]](http://img24.i99/dietv.jpg) bump, i'm scared shitless. | ||
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AoN.DimSum
United States2983 Posts
and why do u even need to show us that picture in the first place. | ||
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Warrior Madness
Canada3791 Posts
On March 05 2011 09:10 Alexson wrote: So it appears I got a slight shoulder dislocation. What do you think they'll do TL?!?! and Decaf, what program/website is this? That's fitday.com. | ||
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