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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
March 02 2011 14:20 GMT
#2101
On March 02 2011 16:11 Energies wrote:
Have a problem, I need to be able to run like 12km on Saturday through a hiking track. Fitness wise I'm fine. But I have an issue with my lowerback, I can squat and deadlift fine, wake up the next morning and no problems. I do sprints and I'm fine. As soon as I start a steady pace of running my lowerback starts to feel pressure, 10-15minutes into it it will lead into pain, and eventually excruciating pain similar to how you'd feel if you just fucked up a squat with really heavy weights.

I never used to have this problem, what can be causing it? Some of my friends are saying my hamstrings are too tight, hamstrings are too weak? My glutes are too strong? Glutes are too weak? All sorts of conspiracy theories.

What's happening >_<



Yep, poor heel toe running technique.

When you run/jog you should be running like you are sprinting only slower.

Should look like this:
http://www.brianmac.co.uk/sprints/sprintseq.htm

Toe hits the ground first, then heel hits down on the ground lightly.

Also, glutes can never be too strong... if you wanted to hit up some hamstrings ot see if they're a weakness check out a glute ham raise machine
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Alexson
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belarus293 Posts
March 02 2011 15:31 GMT
#2102
On March 02 2011 22:09 AoN.DimSum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2011 21:49 Alexson wrote:
On March 02 2011 13:20 eshlow wrote:
Nothing you can do right now....

RICE it up for now.

See a orthopedic doc if possible (especially if pain doesn't improve in a week).

You'd have to provide waaay more info if I was to even make a guess of what it was.

I'll see my school nurse and see what she says.

Woke up today and it hurts like a bitch, i can barley move my arm...



yeah it hurts more the day after. Just get it checked out, you will be fine tbh i dont think the school nurse is going to be qualified.

Thanks bro, I'll have it checked out for sure when I get home from school.

The reason I did it was because I believe that I was doing the reps too fast, even though it was a heavy ass weight I did them pretty fast and my shoulders just weren't prepared enough. I hope it's nothing serious.
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KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-02 18:45:25
March 02 2011 18:45 GMT
#2103
Gym in about an hour yeaaahhh!!1 :D

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sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
March 02 2011 18:57 GMT
#2104
On March 03 2011 03:45 KizZBG wrote:
Gym in about an hour yeaaahhh!!1 :D

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ROFL
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Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
March 02 2011 19:11 GMT
#2105
mmm, so my workouts have been doing well the past 2 weeks. up to 135lb squat, DL is going slow because im only going up by 10 per workout, but at 155. However on Sunday after i worked out i felt fine, but monday til today part of my lower back is really sore. Ive pulled a muscle in my back twice before, so i don't know if it agitated it and its just taking a while to heal or rest. Should i be stretching or icing it? So far ive just been eating a lot and resting.
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
March 02 2011 19:18 GMT
#2106
On March 03 2011 04:11 Alventenie wrote:
mmm, so my workouts have been doing well the past 2 weeks. up to 135lb squat, DL is going slow because im only going up by 10 per workout, but at 155. However on Sunday after i worked out i felt fine, but monday til today part of my lower back is really sore. Ive pulled a muscle in my back twice before, so i don't know if it agitated it and its just taking a while to heal or rest. Should i be stretching or icing it? So far ive just been eating a lot and resting.


If you feel like you can add more each session in the deadlift don't hesitate to do so!

If you have access to a foamroller I'd suggest you use it to work some blood into your back.
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
March 02 2011 19:22 GMT
#2107
On March 03 2011 04:11 Alventenie wrote:
mmm, so my workouts have been doing well the past 2 weeks. up to 135lb squat, DL is going slow because im only going up by 10 per workout, but at 155. However on Sunday after i worked out i felt fine, but monday til today part of my lower back is really sore. Ive pulled a muscle in my back twice before, so i don't know if it agitated it and its just taking a while to heal or rest. Should i be stretching or icing it? So far ive just been eating a lot and resting.


Sore is OK.

Painful is not.

If you're stiff you should definitely do non-painful mobility work for it....

Can try some of the exercises here and see if they help:
http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2010/02/so-you-hurt-your-lower-back/

Generally, you don't stretch a hurt area, icing is variable and so is heat so it really all depends on what it actually is. Movement in general is good, but with low back you need to make sure not to load it in flexion
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frawress
Profile Joined February 2011
United States22 Posts
March 02 2011 20:15 GMT
#2108
So I haven't purchased shoes yet but after reading for a bit, I've come to the conclusion that buying real lifting shoes instead of chucks would probably be a better choice. I was thinking about buying the 2011 do-wins after reading the discussion earlier in this thread about shoes. (price not an issue)

My quad soreness has also stopped but my left knee started bugging me today. I think it's a result of my shoes and an imbalance when I'm squatting. I might just skip squats for a week so I can get the shoes.
DimmuKlok
Profile Joined June 2010
United States225 Posts
March 02 2011 20:25 GMT
#2109
Hello TL,

I've made a lot of progress in my weight loss and I feel great. I've injured my lower left leg somehow and I was wondering what you all recommend. After some research online, I'm pretty sure it's shin splints. The pain and symptoms seem to be identical. The problem is for treatment they say just stop working out until the pain goes away.

I'm curious if any of you have experience with shin splints and have any recommendations. For now I'm just going to do upper body stuff until the pain goes away.

Thanks,

Jess (DimmuKlok)
Duckvillelol
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia1259 Posts
March 02 2011 20:37 GMT
#2110
On March 03 2011 05:25 DimmuKlok wrote:
Hello TL,

I've made a lot of progress in my weight loss and I feel great. I've injured my lower left leg somehow and I was wondering what you all recommend. After some research online, I'm pretty sure it's shin splints. The pain and symptoms seem to be identical. The problem is for treatment they say just stop working out until the pain goes away.

I'm curious if any of you have experience with shin splints and have any recommendations. For now I'm just going to do upper body stuff until the pain goes away.

Thanks,

Jess (DimmuKlok)


I've got the same issue, happens a lot when I play basketball each week. I made a post a lot earlier in this thread about it, essentially these things will help:

- have a look online at running technique - generally it occurs if you're not making your foot-strikes on the ground correctly
- make sure you do very good stretching on your calves/hamstrings before you do any exercise, also keep in mind you can stretch upper and lower calves which will help
- any further weight loss (if you're my size it'll be a factor) will also help, keeping pressure off the foot/calf

I'm sure the other folks can elaborate if needed.

Onto my own issue - is there an easy way to work out the calories for meals? I know I'm probably missing something simple on how to do it, I just want to know so I can work out how much is going in compared to what is going out when I do my bike rides/weights/basketball
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Slithe
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States985 Posts
March 02 2011 20:43 GMT
#2111
On March 03 2011 05:37 Duckvillelol wrote:
Onto my own issue - is there an easy way to work out the calories for meals? I know I'm probably missing something simple on how to do it, I just want to know so I can work out how much is going in compared to what is going out when I do my bike rides/weights/basketball


http://www.fitday.com/
Hamster
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom156 Posts
March 02 2011 20:47 GMT
#2112
guys, i have a white line on top of my left pec across the armpit. is this a stretchmark? what can i do to make it dissapear. do i stop working out a few days?
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-02 21:10:18
March 02 2011 21:08 GMT
#2113
stretch marks are usually red (I have a couple of my own. serves me right for being a fatty most of my childhood/puberty) but can become lighter in colour.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stretch_marks

if its a stretch mark, it will never go away completely

man i've been feeling like shit all day. partially due to my failed squats gay
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
March 02 2011 22:06 GMT
#2114
On March 02 2011 23:20 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2011 16:11 Energies wrote:
Have a problem, I need to be able to run like 12km on Saturday through a hiking track. Fitness wise I'm fine. But I have an issue with my lowerback, I can squat and deadlift fine, wake up the next morning and no problems. I do sprints and I'm fine. As soon as I start a steady pace of running my lowerback starts to feel pressure, 10-15minutes into it it will lead into pain, and eventually excruciating pain similar to how you'd feel if you just fucked up a squat with really heavy weights.

I never used to have this problem, what can be causing it? Some of my friends are saying my hamstrings are too tight, hamstrings are too weak? My glutes are too strong? Glutes are too weak? All sorts of conspiracy theories.

What's happening >_<



Yep, poor heel toe running technique.

When you run/jog you should be running like you are sprinting only slower.

Should look like this:
http://www.brianmac.co.uk/sprints/sprintseq.htm

Toe hits the ground first, then heel hits down on the ground lightly.

Also, glutes can never be too strong... if you wanted to hit up some hamstrings ot see if they're a weakness check out a glute ham raise machine


Thanks, I'll go for a run tonight and try it.
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20164 Posts
March 02 2011 22:07 GMT
#2115
On March 03 2011 06:08 Zafrumi wrote:
stretch marks are usually red (I have a couple of my own. serves me right for being a fatty most of my childhood/puberty) but can become lighter in colour.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stretch_marks

if its a stretch mark, it will never go away completely

man i've been feeling like shit all day. partially due to my failed squats gay


I think i have something resembling stretch marks on my hip flexors? hips too strong rawr

anyways: beast mode time. peace
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
March 02 2011 23:59 GMT
#2116
brb, New York over the weekend.
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
XuoriG
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada165 Posts
March 03 2011 00:58 GMT
#2117
Squats are kicking my ass

I have a question, no matter what I do I just cant put my wrists inline with my forearms, is it a flexibility thing? If so what kind of streches should I be doing? For now its fine even if my wrists make a huge angle with my arm, but the more i add wait the more i feel pressure in my wrists.

Thanks!
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20164 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-03 03:08:49
March 03 2011 03:03 GMT
#2118
Bleh missed 140 today. Got it over head and felt like i was going to be crushed. Dimsum anyway i can work on my core/back strength to hold it over head other than just jerks? Think i'm going to start working in shoulder/chest/arms on my non-olympic days as it clearly has some catching up to do with my legs.
Once my shoulders were warmed up from CJ they felt fine so i snatched even though i'm gonna regret it tomorrow, got my bw snatch for the first time in a while but failed at 100 (shoulders gave out ) After tomorrow i won't be lifting again until next monday so hopefully i come back 100%.

Reading up some on shoulder impingement:
Oral anti-inflammatory medications -- such as aspirin, naproxen, or ibuprofen, remain the most common treatment for impingement syndrome.

You must consistently take the medication for nearly eight weeks for it to be effective. You should do this under the care of a doctor because these medications can cause stomach irritation and bleeding.


8 WEEKS? I don't have 8 weeks to give up I guess i'll see how it feels when i get back, I'm guessing i shouldn't be taking ibprofen regularly if i'm going to be drinking A LOT over the next week? Sucks i probably won't be able to do any shoulder rehab, i'll try to stretch it out in my free time.

On March 03 2011 09:58 Rutluv wrote:
Squats are kicking my ass

I have a question, no matter what I do I just cant put my wrists inline with my forearms, is it a flexibility thing? If so what kind of streches should I be doing? For now its fine even if my wrists make a huge angle with my arm, but the more i add wait the more i feel pressure in my wrists.

Thanks!


Eh i wouldn't worry about it too much, I know some people that squat with their hands on the collars (not that i recommend this) You can work on your shoulder flexibility as seen here:

http://www.californiastrength.com/olwete.html
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
March 03 2011 03:22 GMT
#2119
You can do strength stuff. Im sure you can hold 140, your jerk just needs improvement in technique.
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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
March 03 2011 04:00 GMT
#2120
Were you diagnosed with impingement?

Ice and massage and generally mobility can work wonders.... I'd only use NSAIDs if the impingement is like super bad
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