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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-29 17:38:45
July 29 2013 17:29 GMT
#281
On July 29 2013 23:36 NeoIllusions wrote:
I'm expecting a lot more feedback posts then they have been so far. D:

Also, thanks to Hummingbird for running his team and giving insight to his players. Hopefully you guys learned a lot from him. :3

I talked a lot of it over with Hummingbird with chat, but I'll guess I'll put up a synopsis for everyone to see.
First Match
Rumble v. Jarvan IV
Udyr v. Hecarim
Orianna v. Lux
Twitch v. Varus
Nami v. Thresh

This is a matchup I don't play often. Orianna is not very noob friendly, so it's rarely seen in low elo's, so it wasn't something I was sure I could deal with well. Game started with red invade; helped Hec (Neo) steal red. Made me late to lane; so I already knew I was going to be at a level disadvantage early on; by 2-3 cs. Was able to bait Orianna at level 2, to go hard on me. I gave up first blood; but Neo was able to clean up. Which was an alright trade; since First Blood is 400 gold, but we got kill+assist which was 450. 2nd death by me was a pretty silly fuck up on my part. (Note I was blue side). We started a fight in upper river from mid, Udyr/Rumble/Orianna vs Hec/J4/Lux. I got caught super hard by Udyr; because I wanted to take a step up for an auto attack for dmg proc, but got stunned hard by Udyr; and got blown up. Hec and J4 were able to grab a kill back; so trade wasn't too bad, but huge misplay on my part. Midgame I started to fall really far behind in farm; Hec and J4 were constantly in my lane shoving it out, so I didn't get as much farm as Orianna. Not really Hec or J4's fault; I should have been more on point with grabbing Hec's wolves and wraiths. Even though I fell behind in farm; never at any point throughout the game did I ever feel that I was lacking damage; I was able to burst a fuck ton of damage. Most of my mistakes I felt mostly came out of laning phase; I was able to counter roam Orianna pretty effectively.

Things I definitely need to improve on; is grabbing wraiths/wolves constantly. Don't be afraid to wander sidelanes and steal farm if people are wandering into my lane to take farm. Don't build morello if I have Athene's.

ALSO FUCK ZHONYA's. YOU OWE ME A KILL UPPERBOUND.

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Sona vs Nami
Graves vs Cait
Lux vs Diana
Shyvana vs Eve
Zac vs Kennen

This game was sort of a wash. Top and Bot lane carried pretty hard. I got first blood at lvl 1 on Diana. Which meant I could lane fairly easily. I started game with 2 faerie charms and pots. Upon first blood I grabbed Null Magic Mantle. Which looking back at it was a poor buy choice. I should have gone DRing. Since I had early advantage I definitely tried to push it. But, 1 or 2 bad trades really fucked me a little bit; forcing me to play extremely passive. Diana tried to salvage botlane by roaming; but the first time she did it; I gave my team enough warning, and they were able to kite out botlane and Diana; and grab double kill. 2nd time I saw Diana and Eve roam through red jungle into botlane; I was able to follow, and land my lazer; we grabbed 3 or 4 kills and only Sona died; which was well worth. From there the game sort of snowballed, Sona grabbed like 5 kills; cuz Roffles is the biggest BM KS'r of all time; hue.

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liftlift > tsm
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 29 2013 17:43 GMT
#282
I just want to say for my team, if I'm talking the most (as Jungler), that's ok. But if I'm the only one talking, that's a really big concern for my bot lane. There should be a constant stream of dialogue between ADC and Support, just about at every level because of new skills.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-29 18:16:32
July 29 2013 18:14 GMT
#283
On July 30 2013 02:43 NeoIllusions wrote:
I just want to say for my team, if I'm talking the most (as Jungler), that's ok. But if I'm the only one talking, that's a really big concern for my bot lane. There should be a constant stream of dialogue between ADC and Support, just about at every level because of new skills.

If you're on voice chat with your team, utilize it. Keep the communication level high so that you can relay information such as summoners, ward location, ward timing, cooldowns. Coordinate when you're going all-in, coordinate when you're setting up the gank, coordinate when you're just going to harass. Relay the MIAs from each lane, relay where the jungler is if you see them so that other lanes can pressure safely.

Also, I don't consider the jungler cleaning up after a FB an okay trade, especially since you're down in gold as the laner to the enemy laner who got the FB gold. He'll come back more powerful than you, and you weren't able to grab an experience advantage either because you died. If the jungler pitches a tent in your lane though that's a different story.
God Bless
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 29 2013 18:32 GMT
#284
On July 30 2013 03:14 Roffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 02:43 NeoIllusions wrote:
I just want to say for my team, if I'm talking the most (as Jungler), that's ok. But if I'm the only one talking, that's a really big concern for my bot lane. There should be a constant stream of dialogue between ADC and Support, just about at every level because of new skills.

If you're on voice chat with your team, utilize it. Keep the communication level high so that you can relay information such as summoners, ward location, ward timing, cooldowns. Coordinate when you're going all-in, coordinate when you're setting up the gank, coordinate when you're just going to harass. Relay the MIAs from each lane, relay where the jungler is if you see them so that other lanes can pressure safely.

Also, I don't consider the jungler cleaning up after a FB an okay trade, especially since you're down in gold as the laner to the enemy laner who got the FB gold. He'll come back more powerful than you, and you weren't able to grab an experience advantage either because you died. If the jungler pitches a tent in your lane though that's a different story.

Neo pitched a tent in my lane.
liftlift > tsm
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 29 2013 18:37 GMT
#285
On July 30 2013 03:32 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 03:14 Roffles wrote:
On July 30 2013 02:43 NeoIllusions wrote:
I just want to say for my team, if I'm talking the most (as Jungler), that's ok. But if I'm the only one talking, that's a really big concern for my bot lane. There should be a constant stream of dialogue between ADC and Support, just about at every level because of new skills.

If you're on voice chat with your team, utilize it. Keep the communication level high so that you can relay information such as summoners, ward location, ward timing, cooldowns. Coordinate when you're going all-in, coordinate when you're setting up the gank, coordinate when you're just going to harass. Relay the MIAs from each lane, relay where the jungler is if you see them so that other lanes can pressure safely.

Also, I don't consider the jungler cleaning up after a FB an okay trade, especially since you're down in gold as the laner to the enemy laner who got the FB gold. He'll come back more powerful than you, and you weren't able to grab an experience advantage either because you died. If the jungler pitches a tent in your lane though that's a different story.

Neo pitched a tent in my lane.

I pitched one in my pants.

SORRY WEIRD
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 29 2013 18:42 GMT
#286
On July 30 2013 03:32 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 03:14 Roffles wrote:
On July 30 2013 02:43 NeoIllusions wrote:
I just want to say for my team, if I'm talking the most (as Jungler), that's ok. But if I'm the only one talking, that's a really big concern for my bot lane. There should be a constant stream of dialogue between ADC and Support, just about at every level because of new skills.

If you're on voice chat with your team, utilize it. Keep the communication level high so that you can relay information such as summoners, ward location, ward timing, cooldowns. Coordinate when you're going all-in, coordinate when you're setting up the gank, coordinate when you're just going to harass. Relay the MIAs from each lane, relay where the jungler is if you see them so that other lanes can pressure safely.

Also, I don't consider the jungler cleaning up after a FB an okay trade, especially since you're down in gold as the laner to the enemy laner who got the FB gold. He'll come back more powerful than you, and you weren't able to grab an experience advantage either because you died. If the jungler pitches a tent in your lane though that's a different story.

Neo pitched a tent in my lane.

Pretty sure my top and mid lane should have came out on top heavily. I got ganks on both lanes twice.
wei2 still ended up behind because humming has much better last hitting.
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Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-29 18:52:39
July 29 2013 18:50 GMT
#287
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
July 29 2013 18:53 GMT
#288
On July 30 2013 03:37 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 03:32 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 30 2013 03:14 Roffles wrote:
On July 30 2013 02:43 NeoIllusions wrote:
I just want to say for my team, if I'm talking the most (as Jungler), that's ok. But if I'm the only one talking, that's a really big concern for my bot lane. There should be a constant stream of dialogue between ADC and Support, just about at every level because of new skills.

If you're on voice chat with your team, utilize it. Keep the communication level high so that you can relay information such as summoners, ward location, ward timing, cooldowns. Coordinate when you're going all-in, coordinate when you're setting up the gank, coordinate when you're just going to harass. Relay the MIAs from each lane, relay where the jungler is if you see them so that other lanes can pressure safely.

Also, I don't consider the jungler cleaning up after a FB an okay trade, especially since you're down in gold as the laner to the enemy laner who got the FB gold. He'll come back more powerful than you, and you weren't able to grab an experience advantage either because you died. If the jungler pitches a tent in your lane though that's a different story.

Neo pitched a tent in my lane.

I pitched one in my pants.

SORRY WEIRD


Wave pls you have a child.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
upperbound
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2300 Posts
July 29 2013 18:55 GMT
#289
On July 30 2013 03:42 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 03:32 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 30 2013 03:14 Roffles wrote:
On July 30 2013 02:43 NeoIllusions wrote:
I just want to say for my team, if I'm talking the most (as Jungler), that's ok. But if I'm the only one talking, that's a really big concern for my bot lane. There should be a constant stream of dialogue between ADC and Support, just about at every level because of new skills.

If you're on voice chat with your team, utilize it. Keep the communication level high so that you can relay information such as summoners, ward location, ward timing, cooldowns. Coordinate when you're going all-in, coordinate when you're setting up the gank, coordinate when you're just going to harass. Relay the MIAs from each lane, relay where the jungler is if you see them so that other lanes can pressure safely.

Also, I don't consider the jungler cleaning up after a FB an okay trade, especially since you're down in gold as the laner to the enemy laner who got the FB gold. He'll come back more powerful than you, and you weren't able to grab an experience advantage either because you died. If the jungler pitches a tent in your lane though that's a different story.

Neo pitched a tent in my lane.

Pretty sure my top and mid lane should have came out on top heavily. I got ganks on both lanes twice.
wei2 still ended up behind because humming has much better last hitting.

Your top definitely won. That vision denial and the double ult lane gank was really brutal.
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
July 29 2013 19:55 GMT
#290
On July 30 2013 03:53 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 03:37 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 30 2013 03:32 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 30 2013 03:14 Roffles wrote:
On July 30 2013 02:43 NeoIllusions wrote:
I just want to say for my team, if I'm talking the most (as Jungler), that's ok. But if I'm the only one talking, that's a really big concern for my bot lane. There should be a constant stream of dialogue between ADC and Support, just about at every level because of new skills.

If you're on voice chat with your team, utilize it. Keep the communication level high so that you can relay information such as summoners, ward location, ward timing, cooldowns. Coordinate when you're going all-in, coordinate when you're setting up the gank, coordinate when you're just going to harass. Relay the MIAs from each lane, relay where the jungler is if you see them so that other lanes can pressure safely.

Also, I don't consider the jungler cleaning up after a FB an okay trade, especially since you're down in gold as the laner to the enemy laner who got the FB gold. He'll come back more powerful than you, and you weren't able to grab an experience advantage either because you died. If the jungler pitches a tent in your lane though that's a different story.

Neo pitched a tent in my lane.

I pitched one in my pants.

SORRY WEIRD


Wave pls you have a child.

That's TL+ kollin AMA level stuff lol.
User was warned for too many mimes.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 29 2013 20:49 GMT
#291
All you TL+ jerks just throwin' it in my face.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
July 29 2013 20:51 GMT
#292
On July 30 2013 05:49 WaveofShadow wrote:
All you TL+ jerks just throwin' it in my face.


We will band together.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 29 2013 20:53 GMT
#293
On July 30 2013 05:51 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 05:49 WaveofShadow wrote:
All you TL+ jerks just throwin' it in my face.


We will band together.

Obligatory Bender joke about a better TL with blackjack and hookers.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 29 2013 20:53 GMT
#294
On July 30 2013 05:49 WaveofShadow wrote:
All you TL+ jerks just throwin' it in my face.

Spend diaper money on TL+, profit
It's your boy Guzma!
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
July 29 2013 21:04 GMT
#295
This stuff should probably stay in GD guys
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 29 2013 21:14 GMT
#296
On July 30 2013 06:04 mordek wrote:
This stuff should probably stay in GD guys

This. Don't spam this thread with irrelevant stuff. Use GD.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
July 29 2013 22:01 GMT
#297
If we are going to play some more tonight, I will be online.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-29 23:08:00
July 29 2013 22:25 GMT
#298
Registration
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VisceraEyes81
- Rank and division
Bronze V (-.-)
- If you are a lowbie (Gold or below), include what position you would be interested in working on. (List two)
I get plenty of practice on support (being last pick in the majority of my games) so I prefer to work on Mid and ADC.
- For each role, identify two champions you wish to improve on
ADC - Graves, Varus
Support - Taric, Soraka
Mid - Lux, Malzahar
Jungle - WW, Zac
Top - Nasus, Cho

e:
As an aside, I'm typically only on late night Eastern because of work. This is for IH that occur on weekends primarily.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-16 21:15:08
July 29 2013 22:42 GMT
#299
oh boy I am going to register then hopefully be around durring the next playday.
hoping to learn a lot and meet some friends.

Registration
- Ingame name: ComaDose
- Rank and division: EDIT: Silver V aww yeah
- Position:Jungle, Support
- Champions
Jungle - Hec, Zac, Vi
Support - Nami, Sona
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I basically call jungle then if i can't get it I support but thats cause ive been trying to get better. I really like playing nami too so its okay. I also would like to improve my play with these other champions I use:
Adc - ez (first char I really tried with, disapointed it got popular, want to live up to errbody else)
Mid - liss, lux, ryze
Top - wu, panth (panth was first char i bought cause he looked baller then i found out teamliquid liked him so i knew i made the right choice)
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
nehcnhoj
Profile Joined July 2010
United States213 Posts
July 30 2013 00:35 GMT
#300
in for the fun~

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