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Germany339 Posts
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Are the qualifier region-locked? If so, EU with 12 slots is ridiculously too many considering Serral and Reynor are invited already.
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Germany339 Posts
On June 07 2022 21:30 tigera6 wrote:
Are the qualifier region-locked? If so, EU with 12 slots is ridiculously too many considering Serral and Reynor are invited already.
Yes it is region locked.
From signup numbers for the KR Qualifiers every one who signed up so far would qualify ... meanwhile EU already has 44 signups.
And if you compare it to low tier regions like OCE your comment is ludicrous.
NA with 2 seeds will mean of the 3 competitive NA players we will have 2, so I personally do not see any issues for that region either.
Btw. the invite of Serral is due to him being World Champ, so it has nothing to do with the region. (Reynor was 2nd in IEM btw.)
Tbh. imo EU and KR should haven gotten 1 more slot each and the low tier regions (NA, LatAm, CN, TW, OCE) should have had 1 single Qualifier with 4 slots total.
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On June 07 2022 21:47 hjpalpha wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2022 21:30 tigera6 wrote:
Are the qualifier region-locked? If so, EU with 12 slots is ridiculously too many considering Serral and Reynor are invited already. Yes it is region locked. From signup numbers for the KR Qualifiers every one who signed up so far would qualify ... meanwhile EU already has 44 signups. And if you compare it to low tier regions like OCE your comment is ludicrous. NA with 2 seeds will mean of the 3 competitive NA players we will have 2, so I personally do not see any issues for that region either. Btw. the invite of Serral is due to him being World Champ, so it has nothing to do with the region. (Reynor was 2nd in IEM btw.) Tbh. imo EU and KR should haven gotten 1 more slot each and the low tier regions (NA, LatAm, CN, TW, OCE) should have had 1 single Qualifier with 4 slots total.
Please tell me you are joking, you are saying that the top 12-14 players in EU is head and shoulder above the other regions top 2-3 players in NA-LA-TW-OCE? I mean, no disrespect to EU players in general, but how the hell we can miss one of Scarlett-Astrea-Neeb from the tournament just because EU has 12 slot and NA has 2 slots? Thats not counting the players who are actually looking pretty good in the DH NA tournament recently like Disk and Trigger. Also that means Has and Nice will have one guy missing the tournament because of the stupid region restriction.
Like how did we go from a typical DH slot allocation of 6-4-2-1-1-1-1 to a 12-12-2-1-1-1-1 format for this tournament and acting like we care about developing/giving support for the lesser region? Could we have a common qualifier where we have 4-6 slot that can be fought between player from different regions, at least giving them a chance to compete for more slots?
There is a caveat, that this is an offline event and not all players outside of EU are willing to travel there. So its fair if more slots are given to EU players just base off availability alone, but thats why I think we should have a common qualifier for all the regions to compete if they are good enough and want to travel to the event.
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Germany339 Posts
On June 08 2022 00:09 tigera6 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2022 21:47 hjpalpha wrote:On June 07 2022 21:30 tigera6 wrote:
Are the qualifier region-locked? If so, EU with 12 slots is ridiculously too many considering Serral and Reynor are invited already. Yes it is region locked. From signup numbers for the KR Qualifiers every one who signed up so far would qualify ... meanwhile EU already has 44 signups. And if you compare it to low tier regions like OCE your comment is ludicrous. NA with 2 seeds will mean of the 3 competitive NA players we will have 2, so I personally do not see any issues for that region either. Btw. the invite of Serral is due to him being World Champ, so it has nothing to do with the region. (Reynor was 2nd in IEM btw.) Tbh. imo EU and KR should haven gotten 1 more slot each and the low tier regions (NA, LatAm, CN, TW, OCE) should have had 1 single Qualifier with 4 slots total. Please tell me you are joking, you are saying that the top 12-14 players in EU is head and shoulder above the other regions top 2-3 players in NA-LA-TW-OCE? I mean, no disrespect to EU players in general, but how the hell we can miss one of Scarlett-Astrea-Neeb from the tournament just because EU has 12 slot and NA has 2 slots? Thats not counting the players who are actually looking pretty good in the DH NA tournament recently like Disk and Trigger. Also that means Has and Nice will have one guy missing the tournament because of the stupid region restriction. Like how did we go from a typical DH slot allocation of 6-4-2-1-1-1-1 to a 12-12-2-1-1-1-1 format for this tournament and acting like we care about developing/giving support for the lesser region? Could we have a common qualifier where we have 4-6 slot that can be fought between player from different regions, at least giving them a chance to compete for more slots? There is a caveat, that this is an offline event and not all players outside of EU are willing to travel there. So its fair if more slots are given to EU players just base off availability alone, but thats why I think we should have a common qualifier for all the regions to compete if they are good enough and want to travel to the event.
I would love server Qualifiers instead of locked ones, but esl enforces locked Qualifiers, with at least 1 (in case of na 2) slots per region
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On June 08 2022 00:09 tigera6 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2022 21:47 hjpalpha wrote:On June 07 2022 21:30 tigera6 wrote:
Are the qualifier region-locked? If so, EU with 12 slots is ridiculously too many considering Serral and Reynor are invited already. Yes it is region locked. From signup numbers for the KR Qualifiers every one who signed up so far would qualify ... meanwhile EU already has 44 signups. And if you compare it to low tier regions like OCE your comment is ludicrous. NA with 2 seeds will mean of the 3 competitive NA players we will have 2, so I personally do not see any issues for that region either. Btw. the invite of Serral is due to him being World Champ, so it has nothing to do with the region. (Reynor was 2nd in IEM btw.) Tbh. imo EU and KR should haven gotten 1 more slot each and the low tier regions (NA, LatAm, CN, TW, OCE) should have had 1 single Qualifier with 4 slots total. Please tell me you are joking, you are saying that the top 12-14 players in EU is head and shoulder above the other regions top 2-3 players in NA-LA-TW-OCE? I mean, no disrespect to EU players in general, but how the hell we can miss one of Scarlett-Astrea-Neeb from the tournament just because EU has 12 slot and NA has 2 slots? Thats not counting the players who are actually looking pretty good in the DH NA tournament recently like Disk and Trigger. Also that means Has and Nice will have one guy missing the tournament because of the stupid region restriction. Like how did we go from a typical DH slot allocation of 6-4-2-1-1-1-1 to a 12-12-2-1-1-1-1 format for this tournament and acting like we care about developing/giving support for the lesser region? Could we have a common qualifier where we have 4-6 slot that can be fought between player from different regions, at least giving them a chance to compete for more slots? There is a caveat, that this is an offline event and not all players outside of EU are willing to travel there. So its fair if more slots are given to EU players just base off availability alone, but thats why I think we should have a common qualifier for all the regions to compete if they are good enough and want to travel to the event.
Hello;
NarutO from TaKeTV here. I will tell you that yes the European Region is easily better than any other region. Outside of Reynor and Serral who I both invited just to name a few:
Clem, Lambo, HeroMarine, ShoWTimE. All four of them are already easily better on average compared to the one missing person on NA no matter who you choose. I absolutely mean no disrespect but having 2/3 for NA is perfectly fine just like Valencia.
If you want to mention the likes of DisK and trigger there are plently of EU players that are superior to them. Could they take some series? Probably. Likely though? No. Also if you want to run 10x bo5 of disk/trigger against competetive EU that will most likely be very onesided.
The other regions outside of China are even less competetive. Kelazhur chose to play LA over EU (which he could pick) so it will be between him and SpeCial. If he doesn't do that there is absolutely no one who could give SpeCial a run for his money in that qualifier. Maybe Cham or ERIK if all stars align perfectly.
CN is a good region with some good players but outside of TIME no one there is world class. Also there will be huge issues getting any chinese player out of China. Korea has 12 slots which is a lot but thats fine for me. Please be aware I could have easily cut more slots and added more EU and still chose not to.
Other regions have some decent talent , especially TW/HK but no one that would be straight better than EU.
Best regards
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On June 08 2022 00:09 tigera6 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2022 21:47 hjpalpha wrote:On June 07 2022 21:30 tigera6 wrote:
Are the qualifier region-locked? If so, EU with 12 slots is ridiculously too many considering Serral and Reynor are invited already. Yes it is region locked. From signup numbers for the KR Qualifiers every one who signed up so far would qualify ... meanwhile EU already has 44 signups. And if you compare it to low tier regions like OCE your comment is ludicrous. NA with 2 seeds will mean of the 3 competitive NA players we will have 2, so I personally do not see any issues for that region either. Btw. the invite of Serral is due to him being World Champ, so it has nothing to do with the region. (Reynor was 2nd in IEM btw.) Tbh. imo EU and KR should haven gotten 1 more slot each and the low tier regions (NA, LatAm, CN, TW, OCE) should have had 1 single Qualifier with 4 slots total. Please tell me you are joking, you are saying that the top 12-14 players in EU is head and shoulder above the other regions top 2-3 players in NA-LA-TW-OCE? I mean, no disrespect to EU players in general, but how the hell we can miss one of Scarlett-Astrea-Neeb from the tournament just because EU has 12 slot and NA has 2 slots? Thats not counting the players who are actually looking pretty good in the DH NA tournament recently like Disk and Trigger. Also that means Has and Nice will have one guy missing the tournament because of the stupid region restriction. Like how did we go from a typical DH slot allocation of 6-4-2-1-1-1-1 to a 12-12-2-1-1-1-1 format for this tournament and acting like we care about developing/giving support for the lesser region? Could we have a common qualifier where we have 4-6 slot that can be fought between player from different regions, at least giving them a chance to compete for more slots? There is a caveat, that this is an offline event and not all players outside of EU are willing to travel there. So its fair if more slots are given to EU players just base off availability alone, but thats why I think we should have a common qualifier for all the regions to compete if they are good enough and want to travel to the event.
i mean idk about head and shoulders but if we for example look at the top 12 of the current DH Valencia for EU it goes:
Serral
Lambo
Reynor
Showtime
Elazer
Clem
Harstem
Heromarine
Maxpax
Rattata
Spirit
Skillous
i don't feel super confident saying Scarlett is CLEARLY better than those guys, for example.
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On June 08 2022 04:11 Schelim wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2022 00:09 tigera6 wrote:On June 07 2022 21:47 hjpalpha wrote:On June 07 2022 21:30 tigera6 wrote:
Are the qualifier region-locked? If so, EU with 12 slots is ridiculously too many considering Serral and Reynor are invited already. Yes it is region locked. From signup numbers for the KR Qualifiers every one who signed up so far would qualify ... meanwhile EU already has 44 signups. And if you compare it to low tier regions like OCE your comment is ludicrous. NA with 2 seeds will mean of the 3 competitive NA players we will have 2, so I personally do not see any issues for that region either. Btw. the invite of Serral is due to him being World Champ, so it has nothing to do with the region. (Reynor was 2nd in IEM btw.) Tbh. imo EU and KR should haven gotten 1 more slot each and the low tier regions (NA, LatAm, CN, TW, OCE) should have had 1 single Qualifier with 4 slots total. Please tell me you are joking, you are saying that the top 12-14 players in EU is head and shoulder above the other regions top 2-3 players in NA-LA-TW-OCE? I mean, no disrespect to EU players in general, but how the hell we can miss one of Scarlett-Astrea-Neeb from the tournament just because EU has 12 slot and NA has 2 slots? Thats not counting the players who are actually looking pretty good in the DH NA tournament recently like Disk and Trigger. Also that means Has and Nice will have one guy missing the tournament because of the stupid region restriction. Like how did we go from a typical DH slot allocation of 6-4-2-1-1-1-1 to a 12-12-2-1-1-1-1 format for this tournament and acting like we care about developing/giving support for the lesser region? Could we have a common qualifier where we have 4-6 slot that can be fought between player from different regions, at least giving them a chance to compete for more slots? There is a caveat, that this is an offline event and not all players outside of EU are willing to travel there. So its fair if more slots are given to EU players just base off availability alone, but thats why I think we should have a common qualifier for all the regions to compete if they are good enough and want to travel to the event. i mean idk about head and shoulders but if we for example look at the top 12 of the current DH Valencia for EU it goes: Serral Lambo Reynor Showtime Elazer Clem Harstem Heromarine Maxpax Rattata Spirit Skillous i don't feel super confident saying Scarlett is CLEARLY better than those guys, for example.
Same goes for Astrea to be fair.
Or Cyan and Has.
Top 12 Koreans are a bit more competitiv, but not everyone will sign up, so the guys actually going might be in the same or possibly even lower Level.
Caveat: you have to take MaxPax off that list as well, I don t see him forfeiting IEM and then Play HSC a few month later
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On June 08 2022 05:51 [PkF] Wire wrote:
loving that PvZ meta
Same i hope it's here to stay and doesnt fizzle out after zergs figure it out more.
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Canada8989 Posts
Guys.... Maru signed up for the qualifiers. After almost 20 consecutive dodge, we may finaly have Maru showing up at a party.
He better be wasted by 2:40 PM on friday
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yay the series goes on 
this new style of PvZ is really fun to watch
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Elazer nearly supply blocked instead of being at 70/186, Maru signing up for HSC... Everything I thought to be sure and stable in this world is turning upside down. Is soO going to win that code S season ?
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Elazer must have been getting carried away by the joy that is blowing probes up with banes :D
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On June 08 2022 04:11 Schelim wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2022 00:09 tigera6 wrote:On June 07 2022 21:47 hjpalpha wrote:On June 07 2022 21:30 tigera6 wrote:
Are the qualifier region-locked? If so, EU with 12 slots is ridiculously too many considering Serral and Reynor are invited already. Yes it is region locked. From signup numbers for the KR Qualifiers every one who signed up so far would qualify ... meanwhile EU already has 44 signups. And if you compare it to low tier regions like OCE your comment is ludicrous. NA with 2 seeds will mean of the 3 competitive NA players we will have 2, so I personally do not see any issues for that region either. Btw. the invite of Serral is due to him being World Champ, so it has nothing to do with the region. (Reynor was 2nd in IEM btw.) Tbh. imo EU and KR should haven gotten 1 more slot each and the low tier regions (NA, LatAm, CN, TW, OCE) should have had 1 single Qualifier with 4 slots total. Please tell me you are joking, you are saying that the top 12-14 players in EU is head and shoulder above the other regions top 2-3 players in NA-LA-TW-OCE? I mean, no disrespect to EU players in general, but how the hell we can miss one of Scarlett-Astrea-Neeb from the tournament just because EU has 12 slot and NA has 2 slots? Thats not counting the players who are actually looking pretty good in the DH NA tournament recently like Disk and Trigger. Also that means Has and Nice will have one guy missing the tournament because of the stupid region restriction. Like how did we go from a typical DH slot allocation of 6-4-2-1-1-1-1 to a 12-12-2-1-1-1-1 format for this tournament and acting like we care about developing/giving support for the lesser region? Could we have a common qualifier where we have 4-6 slot that can be fought between player from different regions, at least giving them a chance to compete for more slots? There is a caveat, that this is an offline event and not all players outside of EU are willing to travel there. So its fair if more slots are given to EU players just base off availability alone, but thats why I think we should have a common qualifier for all the regions to compete if they are good enough and want to travel to the event. i mean idk about head and shoulders but if we for example look at the top 12 of the current DH Valencia for EU it goes: Serral Lambo Reynor Showtime Elazer Clem Harstem Heromarine Maxpax Rattata Spirit Skillous i don't feel super confident saying Scarlett is CLEARLY better than those guys, for example.
Scarlett is definitely better than several of those players and at least somewhat close to half of them. 2 slots for NA does lower the competitions skill level.
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On June 08 2022 11:33 JJH777 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2022 04:11 Schelim wrote:On June 08 2022 00:09 tigera6 wrote:On June 07 2022 21:47 hjpalpha wrote:On June 07 2022 21:30 tigera6 wrote:
Are the qualifier region-locked? If so, EU with 12 slots is ridiculously too many considering Serral and Reynor are invited already. Yes it is region locked. From signup numbers for the KR Qualifiers every one who signed up so far would qualify ... meanwhile EU already has 44 signups. And if you compare it to low tier regions like OCE your comment is ludicrous. NA with 2 seeds will mean of the 3 competitive NA players we will have 2, so I personally do not see any issues for that region either. Btw. the invite of Serral is due to him being World Champ, so it has nothing to do with the region. (Reynor was 2nd in IEM btw.) Tbh. imo EU and KR should haven gotten 1 more slot each and the low tier regions (NA, LatAm, CN, TW, OCE) should have had 1 single Qualifier with 4 slots total. Please tell me you are joking, you are saying that the top 12-14 players in EU is head and shoulder above the other regions top 2-3 players in NA-LA-TW-OCE? I mean, no disrespect to EU players in general, but how the hell we can miss one of Scarlett-Astrea-Neeb from the tournament just because EU has 12 slot and NA has 2 slots? Thats not counting the players who are actually looking pretty good in the DH NA tournament recently like Disk and Trigger. Also that means Has and Nice will have one guy missing the tournament because of the stupid region restriction. Like how did we go from a typical DH slot allocation of 6-4-2-1-1-1-1 to a 12-12-2-1-1-1-1 format for this tournament and acting like we care about developing/giving support for the lesser region? Could we have a common qualifier where we have 4-6 slot that can be fought between player from different regions, at least giving them a chance to compete for more slots? There is a caveat, that this is an offline event and not all players outside of EU are willing to travel there. So its fair if more slots are given to EU players just base off availability alone, but thats why I think we should have a common qualifier for all the regions to compete if they are good enough and want to travel to the event. i mean idk about head and shoulders but if we for example look at the top 12 of the current DH Valencia for EU it goes: Serral Lambo Reynor Showtime Elazer Clem Harstem Heromarine Maxpax Rattata Spirit Skillous i don't feel super confident saying Scarlett is CLEARLY better than those guys, for example. Scarlett is definitely better than several of those players and at least somewhat close to half of them. 2 slots for NA does lower the competitions skill level.
That is your opinion and you are entitled to it. I personally disagree with your statement. Can Scarlett win matches against those players? Yes. Is she better? I don't think so. There is not one player I would favor Scarlett in a bo5 right now.
If you want to go through it:
Serral - Scarlett is worse
Lambo - Scarlett is worse
Reynor - Scarlett is worse
Showtime - Scarlett is worse
Elazer - Scarlett is worse
Clem - Scarlett is worse
Harstem - on current meta PvZ I believe Harstem is better
Heromarine - Scarlett is worse
Maxpax - Scarlett is worse
Rattata - Scarlett is even, potentially better depending on her form
Spirit - Scarlett is worse but I think Spirit is shaky in performance sometimes
Skillous - SKillous current form is also better than Scarlett ZvP
Scarlett looked pretty bad against Neeb and Astrea in her ZvP. I know she is a player that can destroy when she is on point but her current form didn't look super great. The weaker players on that list which would be
Harstem, Rattata, Spirit and SKillous for most are still in the current form at least competetive if not better. Saying 2 slots for NA makes the competition worse is just wrong. If you would host global qualifiers on the NA server (15 with 2 slots each) I doubt we would see Astrea, Neeb and Scarlett qualify.
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On June 08 2022 12:09 NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2022 11:33 JJH777 wrote:On June 08 2022 04:11 Schelim wrote:On June 08 2022 00:09 tigera6 wrote:On June 07 2022 21:47 hjpalpha wrote:On June 07 2022 21:30 tigera6 wrote:
Are the qualifier region-locked? If so, EU with 12 slots is ridiculously too many considering Serral and Reynor are invited already. Yes it is region locked. From signup numbers for the KR Qualifiers every one who signed up so far would qualify ... meanwhile EU already has 44 signups. And if you compare it to low tier regions like OCE your comment is ludicrous. NA with 2 seeds will mean of the 3 competitive NA players we will have 2, so I personally do not see any issues for that region either. Btw. the invite of Serral is due to him being World Champ, so it has nothing to do with the region. (Reynor was 2nd in IEM btw.) Tbh. imo EU and KR should haven gotten 1 more slot each and the low tier regions (NA, LatAm, CN, TW, OCE) should have had 1 single Qualifier with 4 slots total. Please tell me you are joking, you are saying that the top 12-14 players in EU is head and shoulder above the other regions top 2-3 players in NA-LA-TW-OCE? I mean, no disrespect to EU players in general, but how the hell we can miss one of Scarlett-Astrea-Neeb from the tournament just because EU has 12 slot and NA has 2 slots? Thats not counting the players who are actually looking pretty good in the DH NA tournament recently like Disk and Trigger. Also that means Has and Nice will have one guy missing the tournament because of the stupid region restriction. Like how did we go from a typical DH slot allocation of 6-4-2-1-1-1-1 to a 12-12-2-1-1-1-1 format for this tournament and acting like we care about developing/giving support for the lesser region? Could we have a common qualifier where we have 4-6 slot that can be fought between player from different regions, at least giving them a chance to compete for more slots? There is a caveat, that this is an offline event and not all players outside of EU are willing to travel there. So its fair if more slots are given to EU players just base off availability alone, but thats why I think we should have a common qualifier for all the regions to compete if they are good enough and want to travel to the event. i mean idk about head and shoulders but if we for example look at the top 12 of the current DH Valencia for EU it goes: Serral Lambo Reynor Showtime Elazer Clem Harstem Heromarine Maxpax Rattata Spirit Skillous i don't feel super confident saying Scarlett is CLEARLY better than those guys, for example. Scarlett is definitely better than several of those players and at least somewhat close to half of them. 2 slots for NA does lower the competitions skill level. That is your opinion and you are entitled to it. I personally disagree with your statement. Can Scarlett win matches against those players? Yes. Is she better? I don't think so. There is not one player I would favor Scarlett in a bo5 right now. If you want to go through it: Serral - Scarlett is worse Lambo - Scarlett is worse Reynor - Scarlett is worse Showtime - Scarlett is worse Elazer - Scarlett is worse Clem - Scarlett is worse Harstem - on current meta PvZ I believe Harstem is better Heromarine - Scarlett is worse Maxpax - Scarlett is worse Rattata - Scarlett is even, potentially better depending on her form Spirit - Scarlett is worse but I think Spirit is shaky in performance sometimes Skillous - SKillous current form is also better than Scarlett ZvP Scarlett looked pretty bad against Neeb and Astrea in her ZvP. I know she is a player that can destroy when she is on point but her current form didn't look super great. The weaker players on that list which would be Harstem, Rattata, Spirit and SKillous for most are still in the current form at least competetive if not better. Saying 2 slots for NA makes the competition worse is just wrong. If you would host global qualifiers on the NA server (15 with 2 slots each) I doubt we would see Astrea, Neeb and Scarlett qualify.
Scarlett has been performing poor lately but is still higher than 3 of them on aligulac. Depending on when this decision was made it's likely she was a decent amount higher on aligulac at that time. I'll admit I was also thinking a lot about historical and potential skill. I give Scarlett a much higher chance of upsetting a top player than Harstem, Spirit, or Rattata even though they're relatively close in rating and recent performance and I don't think that's a controversial thought process.
For your last part I agree but only because I think the spots would be taken by KR players in that scenario. If we look at the last 32 player event with open qualifiers (TSL 8) we had 16 Koreans, 12 EU pros, and 2 NA (with the caveat that Neeb never tried to qualify). EU is already guaranteed 2 more spots than how they performed there.
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On June 08 2022 12:46 JJH777 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2022 12:09 NarutO wrote:On June 08 2022 11:33 JJH777 wrote:On June 08 2022 04:11 Schelim wrote:On June 08 2022 00:09 tigera6 wrote:On June 07 2022 21:47 hjpalpha wrote:On June 07 2022 21:30 tigera6 wrote:
Are the qualifier region-locked? If so, EU with 12 slots is ridiculously too many considering Serral and Reynor are invited already. Yes it is region locked. From signup numbers for the KR Qualifiers every one who signed up so far would qualify ... meanwhile EU already has 44 signups. And if you compare it to low tier regions like OCE your comment is ludicrous. NA with 2 seeds will mean of the 3 competitive NA players we will have 2, so I personally do not see any issues for that region either. Btw. the invite of Serral is due to him being World Champ, so it has nothing to do with the region. (Reynor was 2nd in IEM btw.) Tbh. imo EU and KR should haven gotten 1 more slot each and the low tier regions (NA, LatAm, CN, TW, OCE) should have had 1 single Qualifier with 4 slots total. Please tell me you are joking, you are saying that the top 12-14 players in EU is head and shoulder above the other regions top 2-3 players in NA-LA-TW-OCE? I mean, no disrespect to EU players in general, but how the hell we can miss one of Scarlett-Astrea-Neeb from the tournament just because EU has 12 slot and NA has 2 slots? Thats not counting the players who are actually looking pretty good in the DH NA tournament recently like Disk and Trigger. Also that means Has and Nice will have one guy missing the tournament because of the stupid region restriction. Like how did we go from a typical DH slot allocation of 6-4-2-1-1-1-1 to a 12-12-2-1-1-1-1 format for this tournament and acting like we care about developing/giving support for the lesser region? Could we have a common qualifier where we have 4-6 slot that can be fought between player from different regions, at least giving them a chance to compete for more slots? There is a caveat, that this is an offline event and not all players outside of EU are willing to travel there. So its fair if more slots are given to EU players just base off availability alone, but thats why I think we should have a common qualifier for all the regions to compete if they are good enough and want to travel to the event. i mean idk about head and shoulders but if we for example look at the top 12 of the current DH Valencia for EU it goes: Serral Lambo Reynor Showtime Elazer Clem Harstem Heromarine Maxpax Rattata Spirit Skillous i don't feel super confident saying Scarlett is CLEARLY better than those guys, for example. Scarlett is definitely better than several of those players and at least somewhat close to half of them. 2 slots for NA does lower the competitions skill level. That is your opinion and you are entitled to it. I personally disagree with your statement. Can Scarlett win matches against those players? Yes. Is she better? I don't think so. There is not one player I would favor Scarlett in a bo5 right now. If you want to go through it: Serral - Scarlett is worse Lambo - Scarlett is worse Reynor - Scarlett is worse Showtime - Scarlett is worse Elazer - Scarlett is worse Clem - Scarlett is worse Harstem - on current meta PvZ I believe Harstem is better Heromarine - Scarlett is worse Maxpax - Scarlett is worse Rattata - Scarlett is even, potentially better depending on her form Spirit - Scarlett is worse but I think Spirit is shaky in performance sometimes Skillous - SKillous current form is also better than Scarlett ZvP Scarlett looked pretty bad against Neeb and Astrea in her ZvP. I know she is a player that can destroy when she is on point but her current form didn't look super great. The weaker players on that list which would be Harstem, Rattata, Spirit and SKillous for most are still in the current form at least competetive if not better. Saying 2 slots for NA makes the competition worse is just wrong. If you would host global qualifiers on the NA server (15 with 2 slots each) I doubt we would see Astrea, Neeb and Scarlett qualify. Scarlett has been performing poor lately but is still higher than 3 of them on aligulac. Depending on when this decision was made it's likely she was a decent amount higher on aligulac at that time. I'll admit I was also thinking a lot about historical and potential skill. I give Scarlett a much higher chance of upsetting a top player than Harstem, Spirit, or Rattata even though they're relatively close in rating and recent performance and I don't think that's a controversial thought process. For your last part I agree but only because I think the spots would be taken by KR players in that scenario. If we look at the last 32 player event with open qualifiers (TSL 8) we had 16 Koreans, 12 EU pros, and 2 NA (with the caveat that Neeb never tried to qualify). EU is already guaranteed 2 more spots than how they performed there.
Don't get me wrong. I am a big Scarlett fan when she is on form. She can put out absolutely stunning performances and has shown to do so but her recent for is at best shaky. Aligulac rating is nice but unfortunately its also a rating that takes into account performance over a long period.
Europe has two invites for the reason of Serral being the current world champion and Reynor being #1 EPT at the time of the invite. If you want to look into recent performance. Harstem did upset Heromarine as top player 3-2 in Dreamhack. Harstem upset ShoWTimE today in HSC qualifiers.
I only agree on Rattata and Spirit who usually do not upset players often but in direct comparison I am still not comfortable to call them WORSE or lowering the skill ceiling. Also I dare say its not guaranteed they qualify in Europe at all. All in all I find it fair to give 2 slots to NA given they have 3 players you can consider top players. No region will feature ALL top players and the requirement to give for example OCE/ROA a slot who have basically no player on European level , nor Korean nor NA I think the split is alright.
Thats an as fair statement as I can make on that matter. You are obviously free to disagree but thats my take on it
PS: TSL had server qualifiers so not 100% accurate. EU gave up 2 slots to Maru&ByuN. NA Scarlett and Astrea qualified so that was still good but there is more to it (casting so I cant fully write it down)
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Meanwhile in the LatAm qualifier Special and Cham didn t sign up.
It would be been a Desaster if there had been a 2nd Slot for the Region or if Kelazur choose to try EU instead
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On June 08 2022 06:21 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Elazer nearly supply blocked instead of being at 70/186, Maru signing up for HSC... Everything I thought to be sure and stable in this world is turning upside down. Is soO going to win that code S season ?
So far Maru is keeping his word of trying to play in all the major EPT events, hopefully he can keep it up. But Dark is still a no-show for this event, and so far there is no Trap, Rogue, Cure signing up neither. Lets see how it goes with it, but availability seems to be an issue.
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