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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33597 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-11 18:07:35
November 11 2020 17:28 GMT
#241
How was KaiZi's bench player, INnoVation, supposed to beat his team's championship-winning ace?
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
TentativePanda
Profile Joined August 2014
United States800 Posts
November 11 2020 17:29 GMT
#242
On November 12 2020 02:26 Zergiica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2020 02:23 TentativePanda wrote:
Koreans cant make it to Ro8 lol. We are supposed to have less region lock next year right?


i hope so, they destroyed korean scene with absurd rules.


From what I understand there were plenty of other factors involved, including the fact there was never a huge SC2 scene in Korea to begin with
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13996 Posts
November 11 2020 17:36 GMT
#243
On November 12 2020 02:29 TentativePanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2020 02:26 Zergiica wrote:
On November 12 2020 02:23 TentativePanda wrote:
Koreans cant make it to Ro8 lol. We are supposed to have less region lock next year right?


i hope so, they destroyed korean scene with absurd rules.


From what I understand there were plenty of other factors involved, including the fact there was never a huge SC2 scene in Korea to begin with

Yeah, and other factors like how Koreans were shite for the vast majority of SC2's history
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-11 17:40:31
November 11 2020 17:40 GMT
#244
On November 12 2020 02:36 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2020 02:29 TentativePanda wrote:
On November 12 2020 02:26 Zergiica wrote:
On November 12 2020 02:23 TentativePanda wrote:
Koreans cant make it to Ro8 lol. We are supposed to have less region lock next year right?


i hope so, they destroyed korean scene with absurd rules.


From what I understand there were plenty of other factors involved, including the fact there was never a huge SC2 scene in Korea to begin with

Yeah, and other factors like how Koreans were shite for the vast majority of SC2's history


I think he meant the audience for Sc2 wasn't huge in Korea; not to mention that Blizzard didn't kill KeSpa...
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-11 17:41:49
November 11 2020 17:41 GMT
#245
At least i wasn't watchign this day, gonna skip the rest and TSL for sure too(just read the time rules and ... well.. nto gonna support that)
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
TentativePanda
Profile Joined August 2014
United States800 Posts
November 11 2020 17:43 GMT
#246
On November 12 2020 02:41 deacon.frost wrote:
At least i wasn't watchign this day, gonna skip the rest and TSL for sure too(just read the time rules and ... well.. nto gonna support that)


What rules?
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-11 17:50:38
November 11 2020 17:49 GMT
#247
On November 12 2020 02:43 TentativePanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2020 02:41 deacon.frost wrote:
At least i wasn't watchign this day, gonna skip the rest and TSL for sure too(just read the time rules and ... well.. nto gonna support that)


What rules?


For TSL6 every play day will start at 5PM CET / 11AM EST / 8 AM PST. We understand that will make the tournament run very late for our Korean players but we have not been given any indications that that is an issue, and we’ll try to schedule their matches as early in the day as possible.


Nobody ever said it's an issue, as we expect every progamer is a nolifer who is perfectly fine playing a pro match at 1 AM earliest(if my adjustment is correct)
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Beta2k
Profile Joined November 2011
Austria218 Posts
November 11 2020 17:50 GMT
#248
can someone please point me to english commentary vods from yesterday?
thanks!
ilax30
Profile Joined November 2019
720 Posts
November 11 2020 17:53 GMT
#249
On November 12 2020 02:49 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2020 02:43 TentativePanda wrote:
On November 12 2020 02:41 deacon.frost wrote:
At least i wasn't watchign this day, gonna skip the rest and TSL for sure too(just read the time rules and ... well.. nto gonna support that)


What rules?


Show nested quote +
For TSL6 every play day will start at 5PM CET / 11AM EST / 8 AM PST. We understand that will make the tournament run very late for our Korean players but we have not been given any indications that that is an issue, and we’ll try to schedule their matches as early in the day as possible.


Nobody ever said it's an issue, as we expect every progamer is a nolifer who is perfectly fine playing a pro match at 1 AM earliest(if my adjustment is correct)


In korea yes its normal, they often ladder at 2 am/3am hence they are used to playing at those times, hence they have no issue with it. So what is the reason again you are not gonna watch tsl?
followZeRoX
Profile Joined March 2011
Serbia1451 Posts
November 11 2020 17:53 GMT
#250
On November 12 2020 02:50 Beta2k wrote:
can someone please point me to english commentary vods from yesterday?
thanks!


You can either watch on twitch.tv/esl_sc2 under videos>past broadcasts and find, or check ESLarchive channel on YT, they usually upload all within a day or two.
Beta2k
Profile Joined November 2011
Austria218 Posts
November 11 2020 17:55 GMT
#251
On November 12 2020 02:53 followZeRoX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2020 02:50 Beta2k wrote:
can someone please point me to english commentary vods from yesterday?
thanks!


You can either watch on twitch.tv/esl_sc2 under videos>past broadcasts and find, or check ESLarchive channel on YT, they usually upload all within a day or two.


but i dont find it on twitch or am I blind?
I looked here and I only find some reruns from EU finals: https://www.twitch.tv/esl_sc2/videos?filter=archives&sort=time
FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1205 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-11 17:59:45
November 11 2020 17:58 GMT
#252
On November 12 2020 02:55 Beta2k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2020 02:53 followZeRoX wrote:
On November 12 2020 02:50 Beta2k wrote:
can someone please point me to english commentary vods from yesterday?
thanks!


You can either watch on twitch.tv/esl_sc2 under videos>past broadcasts and find, or check ESLarchive channel on YT, they usually upload all within a day or two.


but i dont find it on twitch or am I blind?
I looked here and I only find some reruns from EU finals: https://www.twitch.tv/esl_sc2/videos?filter=archives&sort=time


Yeah....those are them. The people running the twitch channel are just really bad at renaming their streams.

EDIT: For instance, this one is group A, but it's named as a "rebroadcast."
"Keep Moving Forward" - Walt Disney
Beta2k
Profile Joined November 2011
Austria218 Posts
November 11 2020 18:00 GMT
#253
On November 12 2020 02:58 FrkFrJss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2020 02:55 Beta2k wrote:
On November 12 2020 02:53 followZeRoX wrote:
On November 12 2020 02:50 Beta2k wrote:
can someone please point me to english commentary vods from yesterday?
thanks!


You can either watch on twitch.tv/esl_sc2 under videos>past broadcasts and find, or check ESLarchive channel on YT, they usually upload all within a day or two.


but i dont find it on twitch or am I blind?
I looked here and I only find some reruns from EU finals: https://www.twitch.tv/esl_sc2/videos?filter=archives&sort=time


Yeah....those are them. The people running the twitch channel are just really bad at renaming their streams.

EDIT: For instance, this one is group A, but it's named as a "rebroadcast."


aah thanks. it's named "RERUN: GunGFuBanDa vs. Elazer - DH Masters: Winter 2020 - Group B - EU".
this confused me completely. so I was on the right track after all
thanks!
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 11 2020 18:09 GMT
#254
All these complaints about the rules, ping, and the time of day ring even more hollow than usual when the latest game played is TIME vs INnoVation, and when Maru lost to Armani on KR at 11pm.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-11 18:15:29
November 11 2020 18:10 GMT
#255
On November 12 2020 02:53 ilax30 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2020 02:49 deacon.frost wrote:
On November 12 2020 02:43 TentativePanda wrote:
On November 12 2020 02:41 deacon.frost wrote:
At least i wasn't watchign this day, gonna skip the rest and TSL for sure too(just read the time rules and ... well.. nto gonna support that)


What rules?


For TSL6 every play day will start at 5PM CET / 11AM EST / 8 AM PST. We understand that will make the tournament run very late for our Korean players but we have not been given any indications that that is an issue, and we’ll try to schedule their matches as early in the day as possible.


Nobody ever said it's an issue, as we expect every progamer is a nolifer who is perfectly fine playing a pro match at 1 AM earliest(if my adjustment is correct)


In korea yes its normal, they often ladder at 2 am/3am hence they are used to playing at those times, hence they have no issue with it. So what is the reason again you are not gonna watch tsl?

It's not normal unless you wake up at 11 PM. I am awake up to 3 AM local time and I wouldn't touch the code(programmer) after 10 pm. BEcause I know my brains limits. Laddering isn't exactly a pro match, right?

Edit> and yes, that's the reason.

Edit 2> but hey, maybe it is normal. What do i know? All I know is that I hate that reasoning and that's why I'm not watching it
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
ilax30
Profile Joined November 2019
720 Posts
November 11 2020 18:20 GMT
#256
On November 12 2020 03:10 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2020 02:53 ilax30 wrote:
On November 12 2020 02:49 deacon.frost wrote:
On November 12 2020 02:43 TentativePanda wrote:
On November 12 2020 02:41 deacon.frost wrote:
At least i wasn't watchign this day, gonna skip the rest and TSL for sure too(just read the time rules and ... well.. nto gonna support that)


What rules?


For TSL6 every play day will start at 5PM CET / 11AM EST / 8 AM PST. We understand that will make the tournament run very late for our Korean players but we have not been given any indications that that is an issue, and we’ll try to schedule their matches as early in the day as possible.


Nobody ever said it's an issue, as we expect every progamer is a nolifer who is perfectly fine playing a pro match at 1 AM earliest(if my adjustment is correct)


In korea yes its normal, they often ladder at 2 am/3am hence they are used to playing at those times, hence they have no issue with it. So what is the reason again you are not gonna watch tsl?

It's not normal unless you wake up at 11 PM. I am awake up to 3 AM local time and I wouldn't touch the code(programmer) after 10 pm. BEcause I know my brains limits. Laddering isn't exactly a pro match, right?

Edit> and yes, that's the reason.

Edit 2> but hey, maybe it is normal. What do i know? All I know is that I hate that reasoning and that's why I'm not watching it


They have been playing tournaments at these times the entire year, and multiple times they had the chance to say something about it, and they didnt. There isnt really anything going on yet you are now going to avoid watching a match because you think Korean players are exhausted playing at these times? Seems weird, but again whatever you feel like ofcourse.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 11 2020 18:23 GMT
#257
On November 12 2020 03:10 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2020 02:53 ilax30 wrote:
On November 12 2020 02:49 deacon.frost wrote:
On November 12 2020 02:43 TentativePanda wrote:
On November 12 2020 02:41 deacon.frost wrote:
At least i wasn't watchign this day, gonna skip the rest and TSL for sure too(just read the time rules and ... well.. nto gonna support that)


What rules?


For TSL6 every play day will start at 5PM CET / 11AM EST / 8 AM PST. We understand that will make the tournament run very late for our Korean players but we have not been given any indications that that is an issue, and we’ll try to schedule their matches as early in the day as possible.


Nobody ever said it's an issue, as we expect every progamer is a nolifer who is perfectly fine playing a pro match at 1 AM earliest(if my adjustment is correct)


In korea yes its normal, they often ladder at 2 am/3am hence they are used to playing at those times, hence they have no issue with it. So what is the reason again you are not gonna watch tsl?

It's not normal unless you wake up at 11 PM. I am awake up to 3 AM local time and I wouldn't touch the code(programmer) after 10 pm. BEcause I know my brains limits. Laddering isn't exactly a pro match, right?

Edit> and yes, that's the reason.

Edit 2> but hey, maybe it is normal. What do i know? All I know is that I hate that reasoning and that's why I'm not watching it


11PM? Pretty sure people can still think more than 4 hours after waking up.

And lots of devs like to work at night--it's all about how you manage your sleep schedule. You're just projecting your standards onto other people.
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
November 11 2020 18:26 GMT
#258
On November 12 2020 02:28 Waxangel wrote:
How was KaiZi's bench player, INnoVation, supposed to beat his team's championship-winning ace?


koreans striking out left and right what is going on
On August 15 2013 03:43 Waxangel wrote: no amount of money can replace the enjoyment of being mean to people on the internet
ilax30
Profile Joined November 2019
720 Posts
November 11 2020 18:27 GMT
#259
On November 12 2020 03:23 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2020 03:10 deacon.frost wrote:
On November 12 2020 02:53 ilax30 wrote:
On November 12 2020 02:49 deacon.frost wrote:
On November 12 2020 02:43 TentativePanda wrote:
On November 12 2020 02:41 deacon.frost wrote:
At least i wasn't watchign this day, gonna skip the rest and TSL for sure too(just read the time rules and ... well.. nto gonna support that)


What rules?


For TSL6 every play day will start at 5PM CET / 11AM EST / 8 AM PST. We understand that will make the tournament run very late for our Korean players but we have not been given any indications that that is an issue, and we’ll try to schedule their matches as early in the day as possible.


Nobody ever said it's an issue, as we expect every progamer is a nolifer who is perfectly fine playing a pro match at 1 AM earliest(if my adjustment is correct)


In korea yes its normal, they often ladder at 2 am/3am hence they are used to playing at those times, hence they have no issue with it. So what is the reason again you are not gonna watch tsl?

It's not normal unless you wake up at 11 PM. I am awake up to 3 AM local time and I wouldn't touch the code(programmer) after 10 pm. BEcause I know my brains limits. Laddering isn't exactly a pro match, right?

Edit> and yes, that's the reason.

Edit 2> but hey, maybe it is normal. What do i know? All I know is that I hate that reasoning and that's why I'm not watching it


11PM? Pretty sure people can still think more than 4 hours after waking up.

And lots of devs like to work at night--it's all about how you manage your sleep schedule. You're just projecting your standards onto other people.


Also I would assume they go to bed at like 4 AM-5AM after their ladder sessions/tournament and then wake up in the early afternoon..
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-11 18:30:48
November 11 2020 18:29 GMT
#260
On November 12 2020 03:23 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2020 03:10 deacon.frost wrote:
On November 12 2020 02:53 ilax30 wrote:
On November 12 2020 02:49 deacon.frost wrote:
On November 12 2020 02:43 TentativePanda wrote:
On November 12 2020 02:41 deacon.frost wrote:
At least i wasn't watchign this day, gonna skip the rest and TSL for sure too(just read the time rules and ... well.. nto gonna support that)


What rules?


For TSL6 every play day will start at 5PM CET / 11AM EST / 8 AM PST. We understand that will make the tournament run very late for our Korean players but we have not been given any indications that that is an issue, and we’ll try to schedule their matches as early in the day as possible.


Nobody ever said it's an issue, as we expect every progamer is a nolifer who is perfectly fine playing a pro match at 1 AM earliest(if my adjustment is correct)


In korea yes its normal, they often ladder at 2 am/3am hence they are used to playing at those times, hence they have no issue with it. So what is the reason again you are not gonna watch tsl?

It's not normal unless you wake up at 11 PM. I am awake up to 3 AM local time and I wouldn't touch the code(programmer) after 10 pm. BEcause I know my brains limits. Laddering isn't exactly a pro match, right?

Edit> and yes, that's the reason.

Edit 2> but hey, maybe it is normal. What do i know? All I know is that I hate that reasoning and that's why I'm not watching it


11PM? Pretty sure people can still think more than 4 hours after waking up.

And lots of devs like to work at night--it's all about how you manage your sleep schedule. You're just projecting your standards onto other people.

Yes, I am, I expect most progamers to be a normal human being who like to see a daylight and are awake during the day(at least part of it), so the night part of them being awake is actually being late at their day. Sorry for treating them like ordinary humans. But w/e, it's my reason and it's useless to discuss it here anyway.

Maru's out, no more players for me to watch in the tourney anyway.

On November 12 2020 03:27 ilax30 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2020 03:23 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On November 12 2020 03:10 deacon.frost wrote:
On November 12 2020 02:53 ilax30 wrote:
On November 12 2020 02:49 deacon.frost wrote:
On November 12 2020 02:43 TentativePanda wrote:
On November 12 2020 02:41 deacon.frost wrote:
At least i wasn't watchign this day, gonna skip the rest and TSL for sure too(just read the time rules and ... well.. nto gonna support that)


What rules?


For TSL6 every play day will start at 5PM CET / 11AM EST / 8 AM PST. We understand that will make the tournament run very late for our Korean players but we have not been given any indications that that is an issue, and we’ll try to schedule their matches as early in the day as possible.


Nobody ever said it's an issue, as we expect every progamer is a nolifer who is perfectly fine playing a pro match at 1 AM earliest(if my adjustment is correct)


In korea yes its normal, they often ladder at 2 am/3am hence they are used to playing at those times, hence they have no issue with it. So what is the reason again you are not gonna watch tsl?

It's not normal unless you wake up at 11 PM. I am awake up to 3 AM local time and I wouldn't touch the code(programmer) after 10 pm. BEcause I know my brains limits. Laddering isn't exactly a pro match, right?

Edit> and yes, that's the reason.

Edit 2> but hey, maybe it is normal. What do i know? All I know is that I hate that reasoning and that's why I'm not watching it


11PM? Pretty sure people can still think more than 4 hours after waking up.

And lots of devs like to work at night--it's all about how you manage your sleep schedule. You're just projecting your standards onto other people.


Also I would assume they go to bed at like 4 AM-5AM after their ladder sessions/tournament and then wake up in the early afternoon..

But that's like IT! That means that their 1 AM is really the late part of the day and they're preparing slowly to go to the bed, right? And THAT was my exact point. Thanks for the confirmation (I wouldn't be against a range like 10 pm - 1 AM, but 1 AM and onwards? realy? because they didn't complain? )
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