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busyghost
Profile Joined August 2017
82 Posts
May 16 2020 05:24 GMT
#181
On May 16 2020 14:19 starkiller123 wrote:
that build still looked terrible to me haha


Inno used a very similar opening on Thursday against Zest in Kungfu Cup where he hid his second base inside his main. Zest could have been tricked in the beginning that Inno was using the same build.
Well, top level pyschological warfare here in my opinion.
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
May 16 2020 05:24 GMT
#182
On May 16 2020 14:23 pvsnp wrote:
During the break:

Inno: Bro if you just lemme win here you won't have to teamkill Trap

Maru: I hate playing against Parting....


Hasnt trap been smoking them both recently

I think inno would rather face parting
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26223 Posts
May 16 2020 05:24 GMT
#183
On May 16 2020 14:22 BerserkSword wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2020 14:20 starkiller123 wrote:
On May 16 2020 14:19 DBooN wrote:
I feel like Zest could've had it if he microd the adept he dropped into innos main?

yeah I really think he could've killed almost all of INno's scvs there


marines reinforcements just run to the push then right

i honestly dont think zest shouldve built a prism and sent it to innos main with vital units....and then he warped into innos base too.

the goal is to hold the push, not punish a terran who is already all-inning. You cant have best of both worlds

Questionable to say the least from Zest, he still almost held despite doing that even still.

Suppose that’s why 1 base allins outside of hardcore cheddar are so rare these days.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-16 05:27:18
May 16 2020 05:24 GMT
#184
On May 16 2020 14:20 seemsgood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2020 14:19 pvsnp wrote:
On May 16 2020 14:14 starkiller123 wrote:
this build looks terrible but idk


It works every time online so idk.

its bogus s magic! you know it s coming but you still lose anyway ;OOo


I think it's because lots of Terrans like the early stimless marine/tank pressure. There was one game where Trap blinked a bunch of stalkers on top of the tanks and they all died instantly to stimmed marines.

On May 16 2020 14:24 BerserkSword wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2020 14:23 pvsnp wrote:
During the break:

Inno: Bro if you just lemme win here you won't have to teamkill Trap

Maru: I hate playing against Parting....


Hasnt trap been smoking them both recently

I think inno would rather face parting


Trap looked pretty shaky against Bunny, and Inno 3-0'd him a day later.
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
May 16 2020 05:27 GMT
#185
On May 16 2020 14:24 busyghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2020 14:19 starkiller123 wrote:
that build still looked terrible to me haha


Inno used a very similar opening on Thursday against Zest in Kungfu Cup where he hid his second base inside his main. Zest could have been tricked in the beginning that Inno was using the same build.
Well, top level pyschological warfare here in my opinion.


Zest figured out what was coming far enough in advance to get the disruptors which is the right response, so I don't think the psychological aspect was that successful.
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
May 16 2020 05:27 GMT
#186
On May 16 2020 14:20 Waxangel wrote:
INnoVation bringing one-time only strats to GSL. Damn, who does he owe money to ;o

Maybe he wants to renovate his kitchen

aint GSL and proleague the one time strat tourneys ? ;Oo
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
May 16 2020 05:27 GMT
#187
On May 16 2020 14:24 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2020 14:22 BerserkSword wrote:
On May 16 2020 14:20 starkiller123 wrote:
On May 16 2020 14:19 DBooN wrote:
I feel like Zest could've had it if he microd the adept he dropped into innos main?

yeah I really think he could've killed almost all of INno's scvs there


marines reinforcements just run to the push then right

i honestly dont think zest shouldve built a prism and sent it to innos main with vital units....and then he warped into innos base too.

the goal is to hold the push, not punish a terran who is already all-inning. You cant have best of both worlds

Questionable to say the least from Zest, he still almost held despite doing that even still.

Suppose that’s why 1 base allins outside of hardcore cheddar are so rare these days.


I guess that's also what makes zest one of hte greatest players of all time.

He sure has that killer instinct and confidence that he can simply overwhelm others with his skill.

Inno all-inning is the wrong player to do that to though
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starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 16 2020 05:28 GMT
#188
I don't miss watching infested terrans in the slightest
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
May 16 2020 05:29 GMT
#189
It's kind of cool that Zest completely fits the muscle, no brain stereotype that we all want someone to have in sc2
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
SPGLGreatLakes
Profile Joined July 2012
Canada1 Post
May 16 2020 05:29 GMT
#190
Why are betting sites like Bet365 not offering odds for these matches?
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BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
May 16 2020 05:30 GMT
#191
On May 16 2020 14:29 blooblooblahblah wrote:
It's kind of cool that Zest completely fits the muscle, no brain stereotype that we all want someone to have in sc2


this is exactly what I was thinking lol

what makes this so odd, though, is that when he was at his peak, he always made the right decisions...he seemed so much more cerebral
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
May 16 2020 05:31 GMT
#192
Come on INno. If he just wins this I'll have fewer doubts about my TSL5 bracket.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
May 16 2020 05:31 GMT
#193
This should be good
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
May 16 2020 05:31 GMT
#194
For whatever reason, in the TvT games I watch blue Terran always seems to have a small edge over red Terran.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26223 Posts
May 16 2020 05:31 GMT
#195
On May 16 2020 14:27 BerserkSword wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2020 14:24 Wombat_NI wrote:
On May 16 2020 14:22 BerserkSword wrote:
On May 16 2020 14:20 starkiller123 wrote:
On May 16 2020 14:19 DBooN wrote:
I feel like Zest could've had it if he microd the adept he dropped into innos main?

yeah I really think he could've killed almost all of INno's scvs there


marines reinforcements just run to the push then right

i honestly dont think zest shouldve built a prism and sent it to innos main with vital units....and then he warped into innos base too.

the goal is to hold the push, not punish a terran who is already all-inning. You cant have best of both worlds

Questionable to say the least from Zest, he still almost held despite doing that even still.

Suppose that’s why 1 base allins outside of hardcore cheddar are so rare these days.


I guess that's also what makes zest one of hte greatest players of all time.

He sure has that killer instinct and confidence that he can simply overwhelm others with his skill.

Inno all-inning is the wrong player to do that to though

True that with Zest, suppose warp prism back stabs are such standard practice now autopilot might have set in, or a misread or w/e.

Zest would be up there for me, probably below herO in winning games with ballsy decision making that even as a viewer with all the information shouldn’t work. Keeps the game fun!

So pumped for this TvT too
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 16 2020 05:32 GMT
#196
On May 16 2020 14:30 BerserkSword wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2020 14:29 blooblooblahblah wrote:
It's kind of cool that Zest completely fits the muscle, no brain stereotype that we all want someone to have in sc2


this is exactly what I was thinking lol

what makes this so odd, though, is that when he was at his peak, he always made the right decisions...he seemed so much more cerebral

honestly I just don't understand Zest, he always seems to have big holes in his play yet he still does pretty decently
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 16 2020 05:33 GMT
#197
On May 16 2020 14:31 pvsnp wrote:
For whatever reason, in the TvT games I watch blue Terran always seems to have a small edge over red Terran.

be careful blizzard may nerf blue terrans...
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17721 Posts
May 16 2020 05:33 GMT
#198
easier way to say it for Tasteless, starcraft is one of very few games where you constantly need BOTH hands to be playing
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starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 16 2020 05:34 GMT
#199
On May 16 2020 14:33 Die4Ever wrote:
easier way to say it for Tasteless, starcraft is one of very few games where you constantly need BOTH hands to be playing

its honestly pretty exhausting to play sometimes, luckily I have garbage late game so it typically doesn't matter
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
May 16 2020 05:35 GMT
#200
On May 16 2020 14:30 BerserkSword wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2020 14:29 blooblooblahblah wrote:
It's kind of cool that Zest completely fits the muscle, no brain stereotype that we all want someone to have in sc2


this is exactly what I was thinking lol

what makes this so odd, though, is that when he was at his peak, he always made the right decisions...he seemed so much more cerebral


Yeah, it's kind of weird cos in HotS I was a huge fan of his decision making and ability to adjust on the fly, for me that is still his peak (maybe not in actual skill, but he seemed much more well rounded despite a slight weakness in PvT)

I appreciate his play in LotV but he is seemingly been so one dimensional since his initial domination. Even though his results improved after his (2017?) slump, his actual play hasn't really impressed me, other than his very nice builds.
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
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