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tigon_ridge
Profile Joined March 2019
482 Posts
September 08 2019 23:13 GMT
#661
Europe is so weird. You have a player who is a league above another player, who is a league or two above everyone else. On the Korean side, things are much more equalized.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
September 08 2019 23:14 GMT
#662
On September 09 2019 08:11 Shellshock wrote:
who is better Finnish athlete? Serral or Pukki?


Another bait! Serral is so ahead it's unfair.
MoDiV
Profile Joined July 2019
United States90 Posts
September 08 2019 23:15 GMT
#663
On September 09 2019 08:13 tigon_ridge wrote:
Europe is so weird. You have a player who is a league above another player, who is a league or two above everyone else. On the Korean side, things are much more equalized.


Would it be wrong to say that Serral is a Korean level player facing non-korean level players??
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 08 2019 23:16 GMT
#664
On September 09 2019 08:14 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2019 08:11 Shellshock wrote:
who is better Finnish athlete? Serral or Pukki?


Another bait! Serral is so ahead it's unfair.

I mean they both scored on Italy today but Serral did it 4 times instead of 1 so I guess you're right
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-08 23:18:05
September 08 2019 23:16 GMT
#665
On September 09 2019 08:13 tigon_ridge wrote:
Europe is so weird. You have a player who is a league above another player, who is a league or two above everyone else. On the Korean side, things are much more equalized.

Well, WCS NA is much worse in that regard. Since Special isn't playing there, Neeb is way above the rest. Scarlett used to be close to him, but not anymore. And Scarlett is also decently ahead of the rest. And it's been like that for quite a while.
NotSoHappy
Profile Joined November 2010
445 Posts
September 08 2019 23:16 GMT
#666
On September 09 2019 08:13 tigon_ridge wrote:
Europe is so weird. You have a player who is a league above another player, who is a league or two above everyone else. On the Korean side, things are much more equalized.


not really, maru is better there than anyone else.
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-08 23:21:57
September 08 2019 23:21 GMT
#667
On September 09 2019 08:16 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2019 08:13 tigon_ridge wrote:
Europe is so weird. You have a player who is a league above another player, who is a league or two above everyone else. On the Korean side, things are much more equalized.

Well, WCS NA is much worse in that regard. Since Special isn't playing there, Neeb is way above the rest. Scarlett used to be close to him, but not anymore. And Scarlett is also decently ahead of the rest. And it's been like that for quite a while.

If you think NA is bad in this regard, take a look at China.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
September 08 2019 23:23 GMT
#668
On September 09 2019 08:16 NotSoHappy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2019 08:13 tigon_ridge wrote:
Europe is so weird. You have a player who is a league above another player, who is a league or two above everyone else. On the Korean side, things are much more equalized.


not really, maru is better there than anyone else.


GSL is not only Code S.
kaykoose
Profile Joined February 2014
United States2302 Posts
September 08 2019 23:25 GMT
#669
Serral looks more scary vs foreigners than the Koreans did in the old WCS NA/EU. It's pretty crazy
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2754 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-08 23:30:36
September 08 2019 23:30 GMT
#670
Wonder what excuses will be found to put serral second in the next TL ranking x)
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 08 2019 23:31 GMT
#671
On September 09 2019 08:25 kaykoose wrote:
Serral looks more scary vs foreigners than the Koreans did in the old WCS NA/EU. It's pretty crazy

where are all the people complaining that koreans were killing the competition now?
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
September 08 2019 23:33 GMT
#672
On September 09 2019 08:30 stilt wrote:
Wonder what excuses will be found to put serral second in the next TL ranking x)

Well he lost a map, that's quite unacceptable. I like GOATS who don't lose maps.
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17718 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-08 23:35:25
September 08 2019 23:34 GMT
#673
On September 09 2019 08:33 TheOneAboveU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2019 08:30 stilt wrote:
Wonder what excuses will be found to put serral second in the next TL ranking x)

Well he lost a map, that's quite unacceptable. I like GOATS who don't lose maps.

Didn't Taeja do a perfect Dreamhack?
And NesTea had a perfect GSL
"Expert" mods4ever.com
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
September 08 2019 23:35 GMT
#674
On September 09 2019 08:34 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2019 08:33 TheOneAboveU wrote:
On September 09 2019 08:30 stilt wrote:
Wonder what excuses will be found to put serral second in the next TL ranking x)

Well he lost a map, that's quite unacceptable. I like GOATS who don't lose maps.

Didn't Taeja do a perfect Dreamhack?

Which is why he's clearly #1 in any Power Rank over Serral.
Moderatoralias TripleM | @TL_TripleM | Big Dark Energy!
tigon_ridge
Profile Joined March 2019
482 Posts
September 08 2019 23:37 GMT
#675
On September 09 2019 08:15 MoDiV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2019 08:13 tigon_ridge wrote:
Europe is so weird. You have a player who is a league above another player, who is a league or two above everyone else. On the Korean side, things are much more equalized.


Would it be wrong to say that Serral is a Korean level player facing non-korean level players??


Serral is a Serral level player facing...everybody else. I think Maru is the only other player who is close.

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Reynor's place on the aligulac ranking is perfectly justified based on the results. The gap between Serral and Reynor has been consistently 6-9 players long, which is pretty significant. Between Reynor and the rest of Europe, it's almost another 10 players. It's like Europe has a big boss and a mini boss that everyone else has to contend with. The ladder MMRs show the same story. Reynor has been the only player to average at 7k who kept that rating almost forever without using barcode anonymity.
UnLarva
Profile Joined March 2019
458 Posts
September 08 2019 23:37 GMT
#676
On September 09 2019 08:30 stilt wrote:
Wonder what excuses will be found to put serral second in the next TL ranking x)


Fall victory falls to wrong ranking period, and GSL vs The World isn't "real" GSL tournament so it doesn't count.

Generally it doesn't matter how high win rates may rise against Koreans as Serral cannot maintain enough high consistency against them (partly due too many Koreans are getting relegated from tournaments by "weak foreigners"), and more importantly because of that not accumulating big enough sample.

Yeah.

Can't anymore even recall when Serral was 2nd in Aliculac ratings.

There will be always excuses here in tl.net.
Part-time Serralogist
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
September 08 2019 23:41 GMT
#677
On September 09 2019 08:37 UnLarva wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2019 08:30 stilt wrote:
Wonder what excuses will be found to put serral second in the next TL ranking x)


Fall victory falls to wrong ranking period, and GSL vs The World isn't "real" GSL tournament so it doesn't count.

Generally it doesn't matter how high win rates may rise against Koreans as Serral cannot maintain enough high consistency against them (partly due too many Koreans are getting relegated from tournaments by "weak foreigners"), and more importantly because of that not accumulating big enough sample.

Yeah.

Can't anymore even recall when Serral was 2nd in Aliculac ratings.

There will be always excuses here in tl.net.


Tl.net users will be able to find excuses, but I have faith in our writers.
TentativePanda
Profile Joined August 2014
United States800 Posts
September 08 2019 23:45 GMT
#678
Serral -> Reynor/Neeb/Special -> Elazer/TIME/HeRoMaRinE/showtime is a pretty clear hierarchy right now in WCS

As for Serral, congrats and any loss he takes in the global finals will be an upset. Best player on Earth right now, and he’s getting better
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2754 Posts
September 08 2019 23:47 GMT
#679
On September 09 2019 08:33 TheOneAboveU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2019 08:30 stilt wrote:
Wonder what excuses will be found to put serral second in the next TL ranking x)

Well he lost a map, that's quite unacceptable. I like GOATS who don't lose maps.


Np as long as Taeja > Nestea !
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
September 08 2019 23:52 GMT
#680
On September 09 2019 08:45 TentativePanda wrote:
Serral -> Reynor/Neeb/Special -> Elazer/TIME/HeRoMaRinE/showtime is a pretty clear hierarchy right now in WCS

As for Serral, congrats and any loss he takes in the global finals will be an upset. Best player on Earth right now, and he’s getting better


Don’t think losing to stats or the season 3 code s champion would be an upset
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