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On April 29 2019 20:39 IshinShishi wrote:
What's really frustrating is Maru's lack of adaptability sometimes, his play reaches almost mkp levels of dumbness when he just keeps doing what he set out to do at first when he should adapt to clearly all-in moves from his opponents, shows the lack of smart you could see in Mvp's play or Flash's in bw.
Against shit opponents yes. But he's been incredibly adaptable and innovative in the ro8 onwards. His matches against Dark, Rogue, Classic, Dear etc in playoffs have been exceptional.
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Armani keeps getting really early lair and doing nothing with it, it really bugs me lol. I guess overseer?
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Czech Republic12129 Posts
On April 29 2019 20:39 IshinShishi wrote:
What's really frustrating is Maru's lack of adaptability sometimes, his play reaches almost mkp levels of dumbness when he just keeps doing what he set out to do at first when he should adapt to clearly all-in moves from his opponents, shows the lack of smart you could see in Mvp's play or Flash's in bw.
More like Parting IMO. I still remember him trying to make the blink work against Inno when all he had to do is to move on and play a standard game and win, but no, let's blink into loss ><
Edit> Armani played too much BW it seems?
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armani with garbage upgrades, unlucky
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That almost worked for armani. If INno had happened to walk over it it would have been sick
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Czech Republic12129 Posts
On April 29 2019 20:45 IshinShishi wrote:
armani with garbage upgrades, unlucky
well, it's not just that. Killing tanks with banelings...
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Czech Republic12129 Posts
Well, G5L trophy again not needed  Calling it now, cannot see Maru winning against Inno in TvT
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the lurker play set armani back a lot, he probably could've gotten 3/3 before the final fight and even ultras, I can appreciate wonky plays tho, so I guess that was cool.
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Maru putting his hand on inno's shoulder:
How did we let it come to this?
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Now GOAT vs Maru! Awesome
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cant help but feel like they should've both practiced better vs protoss and it wouldnt have come down to this, armani was a non-factor from the start and inno looked like he had played more league of legends than tvp coming up to today..
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Maru vs. Innovation round of 32 elimination o.0
Crazy.
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On April 29 2019 20:51 IshinShishi wrote:
the lurker play set armani back a lot, he probably could've gotten 3/3 before the final fight and even ultras, I can appreciate wonky plays tho, so I guess that was cool.
i think 3/3 was actually greedy after dumping gas in lurkers and taking a fight. he needed a round of ling bane to make it to brood lords, and the spines were pretty stupid (what do spines do below a ramp against tanks?)
he was in a decent enough spot that i think it was possible to take a fight with 2/2 ling bane hydra viper and get to broods. doesn't mean he would win but he might not die
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On April 29 2019 20:34 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2019 20:31 BerserkSword wrote:On April 29 2019 20:20 Pursuit_ wrote:On April 29 2019 20:16 BerserkSword wrote:On April 29 2019 20:14 Pursuit_ wrote:On April 29 2019 20:13 BerserkSword wrote:On April 29 2019 20:12 agsub wrote:
Infuriating to watch such protoss nonsense just stop patience micro'd better than classic did against maru Patience doesn't micro well, he yolo's well edit: There's a reason Patience blinks are a thing XD I actually found this series tons of fun to watch. I know patience usually doesnt micro too well I am talking about just this series. he was on fire with his micro and decision making I feel like he's always had good micro, at least better than people give him credit for. But I think calling his micro this series 'on fire' is a huge stretch. He consistently lost considerably more probes than he needed to to mine drops, overextended with gateway units, lost an oracle to a mine when he was actively microing it, ect. Really what was impressive here was his relentless pressure allowing him to capitalize on every mistake Maru made. He took advantage of the huge advantage Protoss has in the earlier stages of the game before stim + medivac are done. well yea, his relentless pressure was only possible because of his excellent micro. Controlling that many adepts in multiple groups in early pressure situation like Patience did is difficult micro. Patient was almost flawless with it and overwhelmed Maru. Of course stalkers have to be microed. His splits against the mines were excellent. Patience couldve lost so much during his pushes but he had immaculate control as well as decision making his micro only suffered when the game went back to a more standard kind of battle in game 2. he seemed really comfortable with the adept and stalker offensive Please stop, re-view the games later and check again. He selected good builds and executed them properly, but he wasn't microing that well you are making him.
there was a point in the game where he shaded a clump of 12 battered adepts on top of 3 widow mines and only lost 4. he couldve lost so many adepts at various points in the series but he didnt because of his control
his adept control and stalker micro were excellent. it's not everyday you see a protoss player make maru submit with early to mid game aggression.
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On April 29 2019 20:59 BerserkSword wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2019 20:34 deacon.frost wrote:On April 29 2019 20:31 BerserkSword wrote:On April 29 2019 20:20 Pursuit_ wrote:On April 29 2019 20:16 BerserkSword wrote:On April 29 2019 20:14 Pursuit_ wrote:On April 29 2019 20:13 BerserkSword wrote:On April 29 2019 20:12 agsub wrote:
Infuriating to watch such protoss nonsense just stop patience micro'd better than classic did against maru Patience doesn't micro well, he yolo's well edit: There's a reason Patience blinks are a thing XD I actually found this series tons of fun to watch. I know patience usually doesnt micro too well I am talking about just this series. he was on fire with his micro and decision making I feel like he's always had good micro, at least better than people give him credit for. But I think calling his micro this series 'on fire' is a huge stretch. He consistently lost considerably more probes than he needed to to mine drops, overextended with gateway units, lost an oracle to a mine when he was actively microing it, ect. Really what was impressive here was his relentless pressure allowing him to capitalize on every mistake Maru made. He took advantage of the huge advantage Protoss has in the earlier stages of the game before stim + medivac are done. well yea, his relentless pressure was only possible because of his excellent micro. Controlling that many adepts in multiple groups in early pressure situation like Patience did is difficult micro. Patient was almost flawless with it and overwhelmed Maru. Of course stalkers have to be microed. His splits against the mines were excellent. Patience couldve lost so much during his pushes but he had immaculate control as well as decision making his micro only suffered when the game went back to a more standard kind of battle in game 2. he seemed really comfortable with the adept and stalker offensive Please stop, re-view the games later and check again. He selected good builds and executed them properly, but he wasn't microing that well you are making him. there was a point in the game where he shaded a clump of 12 battered adepts on top of 3 widow mines and only lost 4. he couldve lost so many adepts at various points in the series but he didnt because of his control his adept control and stalker micro were excellent. it's not everyday you see a protoss player make maru submit with early to mid game aggression.
I remember that, thinking "dude, don't do this, all adepts will die" and then he proceeds to kill Maru O.O
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Go Innovation! If he can win despite no teammates or team house support in this prep-style tournament I will be impressed!
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Does inno's double cyclone opener have any weaknesses? he wrecked maru with it in WESG and its doing great now.
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EPT
