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royalroadweed
United States8301 Posts
On July 13 2018 20:11 Kommander wrote: As disgusting as it was back then when Terrans just massed Ravens and AA missiled the shit out of Zergs?  X is not a problem because Y was a problem in the past. Great argument, mate. | ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19338 Posts
On July 13 2018 20:10 geokilla wrote: Reymor reminds me so much of Life omg He is very similar. What I like from Reynor is that he techs up really well. Sometimes I felt life just tried to win purely on ling roach (which he did very often), and maybe that's because he was just too good to need to tech. But Reynor plays tech focused very well and throughout that he's makes great use of lings from start to finish. | ||
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Ej_
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Vedeynevin
United States431 Posts
On July 13 2018 20:13 Fango wrote: Super lategame being (damn near) unbeatable for one race is just as disgusting as it is for the other. Again, of course the lategame is unwinnable if you use your tech labs for marauders against broods. | ||
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DarkGamer
Germany330 Posts
On July 13 2018 20:12 raff100 wrote: Game 1 was really overhyped by the casters, but Special didn't ever outplay Reynor who was always high on minerals\gas Game 2 was just a stomp Wow i think completely different: Game 1 was an awesome game with a crazy lot of multitasking on both sides. I think just the unit combination of special made him lose. Or he should have dropped more with marines marauders in the lategame. | ||
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HsDLTitich
Italy831 Posts
On July 13 2018 20:07 RaZorwire wrote: I know. That's what I'm saying. That's the depressing part. Killing bases doesn't do anything. Trading better doesn't do anything. Killing drones (which he did, plenty of them) doesn't do anything. Reynor still had a better army AND a better bank, despite taking damage for 20 minutes straight without setting foot on Special's side of the map. This matchup is fucking disgusting right now. He may have killed drones, but he didn't enough scvs in the meanwhile. Reynor during those attacks was still ahead in workers, he just used that early economic lead to stomp him in late game. Casters just overhyped those attacks that didn't do enough (or Special didn't macro enough behind). Game 2 has just been a stomp as well. Reynor has always been in control. | ||
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RaZorwire
Sweden718 Posts
On July 13 2018 20:12 Vedeynevin wrote: Special did put himself in a spot to win that game though, but he never went above 3-4 ghosts. He wasn't in a spot to win, Reynor had a better bank, despite doing nothing but taking damage the entire game. Ghosts wouldn't have helped. The Brood Lords wasn't even the problem, the ling+bane+hydra split attacks were. | ||
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Kommander
Philippines4950 Posts
On July 13 2018 20:14 Ej_ wrote: Terran whiners fuck off, Maru won 2 GSLs in a row. Gotta admire Terrans, they're staying on brand. LOL | ||
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RaZorwire
Sweden718 Posts
On July 13 2018 20:14 Ej_ wrote: Terran whiners fuck off, Maru won 2 GSLs in a row. "One player is doing well so everything is fine" This logic is so bad. | ||
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Elentos
55571 Posts
On July 13 2018 20:15 RaZorwire wrote: He wasn't in a spot to win, Reynor had a better bank, despite doing nothing but taking damage the entire game. Ghosts wouldn't have helped. The Brood Lords wasn't even the problem, the ling+bane+hydra split attacks were. Good ghost control can burn through a bank like that faster than you'd think. | ||
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darklycid
3541 Posts
On July 13 2018 20:16 RaZorwire wrote: "One player is doing well so everything is fine" This logic is so bad. 4 terrans ro8 Last gsl. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On July 13 2018 20:14 Vedeynevin wrote: Again, of course the lategame is unwinnable if you use your tech labs for marauders against broods. You think I'm basing my points of one game? Terran barely win lategame ZvT since the raven nerf. That's why I said SpeCial would lose any game past 15 minutes. I'm not sure if it's worse or better than when zergs couldn't beat mass raven to be honest (balance wise), gods like Dark still won some lategames on that patch. | ||
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MarthTV
Germany387 Posts
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On July 13 2018 20:17 MarthTV wrote: SpeCial could have killed all those drones... But is Terran getting buffed then? I don't think so! | ||
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Vedeynevin
United States431 Posts
On July 13 2018 20:15 RaZorwire wrote: He wasn't in a spot to win, Reynor had a better bank, despite doing nothing but taking damage the entire game. Ghosts wouldn't have helped. The Brood Lords wasn't even the problem, the ling+bane+hydra split attacks were. I must have imagined that point in the game when they had equal banks and where both on 200 supply | ||
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RaZorwire
Sweden718 Posts
On July 13 2018 20:13 Kommander wrote: See the thing with your logic is, back then it was imbalanced, but now it's not. Factually incorrect; the first few months of the year were so far the most balanced for TvZ, winrate wise. After that, it's been more Zerg favored. http://aligulac.com/misc/balance/ | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On July 13 2018 20:14 Ej_ wrote: Terran whiners fuck off, Maru won 2 GSLs in a row. No one's saying it's impossible to win with terran. The discussion is quite clearly focused on lategame TvZ. Of which Maru didn't exactly dominate in his recent GSL win. | ||
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19338 Posts
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RaZorwire
Sweden718 Posts
On July 13 2018 20:18 Vedeynevin wrote: I must have imagined that point in the game when they had equal banks and where both on 200 supply I was watching Reynors bank, and he was far ahead when they maxed out. | ||
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HsDLTitich
Italy831 Posts
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