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CynicalDeath
Profile Joined January 2012
Italy3463 Posts
July 13 2018 11:25 GMT
#181
"I'm confident against Serral" what a boss
ModeratorSC2 LP Admin - My Life for Aiur - Let the Metal flow - @Cynical_Death
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
July 13 2018 11:25 GMT
#182
On July 13 2018 20:23 Vedeynevin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2018 20:22 RaZorwire wrote:
On July 13 2018 20:19 HsDLTitich wrote:
Look at this early attack again: despite the harrassments, Reynor is still ahead in workers.


That's part of the problem.


So harass that does minimal damage should be enough to give terran the lead?


Don't bother with people who have faulty logic lol
Vedeynevin
Profile Joined February 2015
United States431 Posts
July 13 2018 11:25 GMT
#183
On July 13 2018 20:24 geokilla wrote:
Scarlett took 2 games off Serral? Wow


She actually had a 2-1 lead in the series!
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
July 13 2018 11:25 GMT
#184
On July 13 2018 20:25 MarthTV wrote:
Reynor has dropped two maps so far. One against Nercio and one against Denver.
So his ZvZ against Serral will be his biggest test.


He just said he's confident vs Serral.

Maybe just the nature of ZvZ.
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19288 Posts
July 13 2018 11:25 GMT
#185
Man, you gotta love this kid. Serral vs Reynor will be tough. He's only lost maps to ZvZ.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
ilikeredheads
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1995 Posts
July 13 2018 11:26 GMT
#186
can't beat artosis curse
Vedeynevin
Profile Joined February 2015
United States431 Posts
July 13 2018 11:26 GMT
#187
On July 13 2018 20:25 CynicalDeath wrote:
"I'm confident against Serral" what a boss


Pretty refreshing after listening to everyone be terrified of him at austin
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2751 Posts
July 13 2018 11:26 GMT
#188
I am really excited at the idea of a zvz tomorrow
RealityTheGreat
Profile Joined January 2018
China564 Posts
July 13 2018 11:28 GMT
#189
Harassment without destroying base is useless in some way,Maru Inno and Byun know the importance of destroying bases.
Betrayed, forgotten, abandoned.
raff100
Profile Joined April 2011
498 Posts
July 13 2018 11:28 GMT
#190
Reynor was so unlucky to meet Serral in the ro8, the bottom side of the bracket looks way easier
Vedeynevin
Profile Joined February 2015
United States431 Posts
July 13 2018 11:28 GMT
#191
On July 13 2018 20:26 stilt wrote:
I am really excited at the idea of a zvz tomorrow


Hey, this series is actually gonna get other people to want to see a zvz. Nice!
RaZorwire
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden718 Posts
July 13 2018 11:28 GMT
#192
On July 13 2018 20:20 Ej_ wrote:

It's not a discussion, it's a stream of whine and intelectual whine and feces polluting a live report thread, but I'm glad for your worhtwile input again, Fango, it's always appreciated


You can stick your head in the sand and pretend everything about the game is fine as much as you want while every single foreign tournament is Zerg dominated if you want to, but I don't want to do that. I'm tired of every foreign tournament being so imbalanced and predictable and dull, and I'm tired of all the foreign Terran players leaving one by one because they can't accomplish anything. I'm tired of the community ignoring all this because Korean Terrans are doing fine.

The discrepancy in racial balance between the korean scene and the foreign scene is a genuine issue with the design of the game, and it's so demoralising to see the community completely ignore it while mocking anyone who dares to bring it up.

Whatever. I'm done here.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
July 13 2018 11:28 GMT
#193
Putting Reynor and Serral on the same side of the bracket is looking more forgivable now, it prevents a guaranteed ZvZ final. I don't see either of these guys losing to anyone else.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19288 Posts
July 13 2018 11:28 GMT
#194
I think DnS will make this bo5 very interesting.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
RaZorwire
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden718 Posts
July 13 2018 11:30 GMT
#195
On July 13 2018 20:23 Vedeynevin wrote:

So harass that does minimal damage should be enough to give terran the lead?


The fact that killing 8 bases counts as minimal damage is depressing as fuck.
fededevi
Profile Joined April 2018
Italy45 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-13 11:34:31
July 13 2018 11:31 GMT
#196
On July 13 2018 20:28 BisuDagger wrote:
I think DnS will make this bo5 very interesting.


HeroMarine is looking strong lately, even if he had one of the easiest, if not the easiest group stages.
Vedeynevin
Profile Joined February 2015
United States431 Posts
July 13 2018 11:32 GMT
#197
On July 13 2018 20:28 RaZorwire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2018 20:20 Ej_ wrote:

It's not a discussion, it's a stream of whine and intelectual whine and feces polluting a live report thread, but I'm glad for your worhtwile input again, Fango, it's always appreciated


You can stick your head in the sand and pretend everything about the game is fine as much as you want while every single foreign tournament is Zerg dominated if you want to, but I don't want to do that. I'm tired of every foreign tournament being so imbalanced and predictable and dull, and I'm tired of all the foreign Terran players leaving one by one because they can't accomplish anything. I'm tired of the community ignoring all this because Korean Terrans are doing fine.

The discrepancy in racial balance between the korean scene and the foreign scene is a genuine issue with the design of the game, and it's so demoralising to see the community completely ignore it while mocking anyone who dares to bring it up.

Whatever. I'm done here.


Terran had 4/8 In the last gsl, was that a problem too? You are complaining about racial balance in a tournament with 5/5/6 tpz in th3 ro16. Thank god you are done, lol
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19288 Posts
July 13 2018 11:35 GMT
#198
Alright guys, let's give the TvZ imba discussion a break. PvT is next, so unless you have something to says about PvT imbalance or something constructive to add let's go back to enjoying the games.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Nezgar
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany535 Posts
July 13 2018 11:36 GMT
#199
On July 13 2018 20:28 RaZorwire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2018 20:20 Ej_ wrote:

It's not a discussion, it's a stream of whine and intelectual whine and feces polluting a live report thread, but I'm glad for your worhtwile input again, Fango, it's always appreciated


You can stick your head in the sand and pretend everything about the game is fine as much as you want while every single foreign tournament is Zerg dominated if you want to, but I don't want to do that. I'm tired of every foreign tournament being so imbalanced and predictable and dull, and I'm tired of all the foreign Terran players leaving one by one because they can't accomplish anything. I'm tired of the community ignoring all this because Korean Terrans are doing fine.

The discrepancy in racial balance between the korean scene and the foreign scene is a genuine issue with the design of the game, and it's so demoralising to see the community completely ignore it while mocking anyone who dares to bring it up.

Whatever. I'm done here.


Well, going with the same kind of response that we usually get to hear from Terran fans:
Foreign Terrans just aren't as good as foreign Zerg and Protoss.
Or even better: Serral is a god. Neeb is a god. Mana is a god. Raynor is a god. [Insert random Zerg/Protoss winning a bunch of matches] is a god.

This is the source of the mockery, if you ask me. Every time a Terran does well, it has nothing to do with balance but rather because "this Terran is a just a god". Every time a Terran does poorly, we see a constant flood of balance whines to the point of even having ultra lengthy "discussion threads" posted here on TL.

It's toxic and tiring and trying to have a serious conversation about it has failed in the past. Making fun of it or answering in the same vein is the only thing left.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
July 13 2018 11:36 GMT
#200
On July 13 2018 20:32 Vedeynevin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2018 20:28 RaZorwire wrote:
On July 13 2018 20:20 Ej_ wrote:

It's not a discussion, it's a stream of whine and intelectual whine and feces polluting a live report thread, but I'm glad for your worhtwile input again, Fango, it's always appreciated


You can stick your head in the sand and pretend everything about the game is fine as much as you want while every single foreign tournament is Zerg dominated if you want to, but I don't want to do that. I'm tired of every foreign tournament being so imbalanced and predictable and dull, and I'm tired of all the foreign Terran players leaving one by one because they can't accomplish anything. I'm tired of the community ignoring all this because Korean Terrans are doing fine.

The discrepancy in racial balance between the korean scene and the foreign scene is a genuine issue with the design of the game, and it's so demoralising to see the community completely ignore it while mocking anyone who dares to bring it up.

Whatever. I'm done here.


Terran had 4/8 In the last gsl, was that a problem too? You are complaining about racial balance in a tournament with 5/5/6 tpz in th3 ro16. Thank god you are done, lol

I made this point to someone else but whatever. The issue is clearly with TvZ lategame being zerg favoured. How many of the four terrans in GSL ro8 had to face lategame TvZ on the way there? The zergs all went out to protoss iirc.

Even Maru, the two time champ, lost the games that went long against Rogue and Leenock. He still won the GSL because terran is solid to good in other areas, namely fast tank pushes against zerg and midgame aggression against toss.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
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