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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19339 Posts
July 13 2018 11:37 GMT
#201
On July 13 2018 20:31 fededevi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2018 20:28 BisuDagger wrote:
I think DnS will make this bo5 very interesting.


HeroMarine is looking strong lately, even if he had one of the easiest, if not the easiest group stages.

HeroMarine was my vote in the world vote too. He's definitely in top form. It's more just a feeling the DnS is going to bring his momentum into this match.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 13 2018 11:38 GMT
#202
On July 13 2018 20:36 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2018 20:32 Vedeynevin wrote:
On July 13 2018 20:28 RaZorwire wrote:
On July 13 2018 20:20 Ej_ wrote:

It's not a discussion, it's a stream of whine and intelectual whine and feces polluting a live report thread, but I'm glad for your worhtwile input again, Fango, it's always appreciated


You can stick your head in the sand and pretend everything about the game is fine as much as you want while every single foreign tournament is Zerg dominated if you want to, but I don't want to do that. I'm tired of every foreign tournament being so imbalanced and predictable and dull, and I'm tired of all the foreign Terran players leaving one by one because they can't accomplish anything. I'm tired of the community ignoring all this because Korean Terrans are doing fine.

The discrepancy in racial balance between the korean scene and the foreign scene is a genuine issue with the design of the game, and it's so demoralising to see the community completely ignore it while mocking anyone who dares to bring it up.

Whatever. I'm done here.


Terran had 4/8 In the last gsl, was that a problem too? You are complaining about racial balance in a tournament with 5/5/6 tpz in th3 ro16. Thank god you are done, lol

I made this point to someone else but whatever. The issue is clearly with TvZ lategame being zerg favoured. How many of the four terrans in GSL ro8 had to face lategame TvZ on the way there? The zergs all went out to protoss iirc.

Even Maru, the two time champ, lost the games that went long against Rogue and Leenock. He still won the GSL because terran is solid to good in other areas, namely fast tank pushes against zerg and midgame aggression against toss.

I'd be very glad if you could properly elaborate on why it's an issue that one race has an upperhand over the another in lategame, but maybe not here.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
July 13 2018 11:39 GMT
#203
On July 13 2018 20:35 BisuDagger wrote:
Alright guys, let's give the TvZ imba discussion a break. PvT is next, so unless you have something to says about PvT imbalance or something constructive to add let's go back to enjoying the games.

Buff protoss pls.
why even
raff100
Profile Joined April 2011
498 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-13 11:41:51
July 13 2018 11:39 GMT
#204
On July 13 2018 20:28 RaZorwire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2018 20:20 Ej_ wrote:

It's not a discussion, it's a stream of whine and intelectual whine and feces polluting a live report thread, but I'm glad for your worhtwile input again, Fango, it's always appreciated


You can stick your head in the sand and pretend everything about the game is fine as much as you want while every single foreign tournament is Zerg dominated if you want to, but I don't want to do that. I'm tired of every foreign tournament being so imbalanced and predictable and dull, and I'm tired of all the foreign Terran players leaving one by one because they can't accomplish anything. I'm tired of the community ignoring all this because Korean Terrans are doing fine.

The discrepancy in racial balance between the korean scene and the foreign scene is a genuine issue with the design of the game, and it's so demoralising to see the community completely ignore it while mocking anyone who dares to bring it up.

Whatever. I'm done here.


It's not Blizzard fault if foreigners are not on the same level of Koreans. Despite what people are saying to get buffs to their own races, balance is quite good at this moment .
Vedeynevin
Profile Joined February 2015
United States431 Posts
July 13 2018 11:41 GMT
#205
On July 13 2018 20:36 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2018 20:32 Vedeynevin wrote:
On July 13 2018 20:28 RaZorwire wrote:
On July 13 2018 20:20 Ej_ wrote:

It's not a discussion, it's a stream of whine and intelectual whine and feces polluting a live report thread, but I'm glad for your worhtwile input again, Fango, it's always appreciated


You can stick your head in the sand and pretend everything about the game is fine as much as you want while every single foreign tournament is Zerg dominated if you want to, but I don't want to do that. I'm tired of every foreign tournament being so imbalanced and predictable and dull, and I'm tired of all the foreign Terran players leaving one by one because they can't accomplish anything. I'm tired of the community ignoring all this because Korean Terrans are doing fine.

The discrepancy in racial balance between the korean scene and the foreign scene is a genuine issue with the design of the game, and it's so demoralising to see the community completely ignore it while mocking anyone who dares to bring it up.

Whatever. I'm done here.


Terran had 4/8 In the last gsl, was that a problem too? You are complaining about racial balance in a tournament with 5/5/6 tpz in th3 ro16. Thank god you are done, lol

I made this point to someone else but whatever. The issue is clearly with TvZ lategame being zerg favoured. How many of the four terrans in GSL ro8 had to face lategame TvZ on the way there? The zergs all went out to protoss iirc.

Even Maru, the two time champ, lost the games that went long against Rogue and Leenock. He still won the GSL because terran is solid to good in other areas, namely fast tank pushes against zerg and midgame aggression against toss.


I watched Maru beat rogue in the lategame last night. You know what won him the game? Ghosts
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3541 Posts
July 13 2018 11:42 GMT
#206
On July 13 2018 20:39 D-light wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2018 20:35 BisuDagger wrote:
Alright guys, let's give the TvZ imba discussion a break. PvT is next, so unless you have something to says about PvT imbalance or something constructive to add let's go back to enjoying the games.

Buff protoss pls.

I second this.
Vedeynevin
Profile Joined February 2015
United States431 Posts
July 13 2018 11:42 GMT
#207
Ok ok, tvp time. STORM OP
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19339 Posts
July 13 2018 11:44 GMT
#208
On July 13 2018 20:42 Vedeynevin wrote:
Ok ok, tvp time. STORM OP

Buff the amulet!
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
July 13 2018 11:44 GMT
#209
On July 13 2018 20:44 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2018 20:42 Vedeynevin wrote:
Ok ok, tvp time. STORM OP

Buff the amulet!


You mean bring back the amulet
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
July 13 2018 11:45 GMT
#210
On July 13 2018 20:44 Kommander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2018 20:44 BisuDagger wrote:
On July 13 2018 20:42 Vedeynevin wrote:
Ok ok, tvp time. STORM OP

Buff the amulet!


You mean bring back the amulet

and then buff it!
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
July 13 2018 11:46 GMT
#211
On July 13 2018 20:41 Vedeynevin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2018 20:36 Fango wrote:
On July 13 2018 20:32 Vedeynevin wrote:
On July 13 2018 20:28 RaZorwire wrote:
On July 13 2018 20:20 Ej_ wrote:

It's not a discussion, it's a stream of whine and intelectual whine and feces polluting a live report thread, but I'm glad for your worhtwile input again, Fango, it's always appreciated


You can stick your head in the sand and pretend everything about the game is fine as much as you want while every single foreign tournament is Zerg dominated if you want to, but I don't want to do that. I'm tired of every foreign tournament being so imbalanced and predictable and dull, and I'm tired of all the foreign Terran players leaving one by one because they can't accomplish anything. I'm tired of the community ignoring all this because Korean Terrans are doing fine.

The discrepancy in racial balance between the korean scene and the foreign scene is a genuine issue with the design of the game, and it's so demoralising to see the community completely ignore it while mocking anyone who dares to bring it up.

Whatever. I'm done here.


Terran had 4/8 In the last gsl, was that a problem too? You are complaining about racial balance in a tournament with 5/5/6 tpz in th3 ro16. Thank god you are done, lol

I made this point to someone else but whatever. The issue is clearly with TvZ lategame being zerg favoured. How many of the four terrans in GSL ro8 had to face lategame TvZ on the way there? The zergs all went out to protoss iirc.

Even Maru, the two time champ, lost the games that went long against Rogue and Leenock. He still won the GSL because terran is solid to good in other areas, namely fast tank pushes against zerg and midgame aggression against toss.


I watched Maru beat rogue in the lategame last night. You know what won him the game? Ghosts

Maybe he did, but GSL is a better indicator than streams. Maru lost in the lategames against Rogue and Leenock in GSL. Along with every other terran that's tried it in a premier event recently.

Besides, this discussion is over apparently, at least until the next TvZ. HeroMarine is killing this guy.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19339 Posts
July 13 2018 11:47 GMT
#212
On July 13 2018 20:45 DBooN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2018 20:44 Kommander wrote:
On July 13 2018 20:44 BisuDagger wrote:
On July 13 2018 20:42 Vedeynevin wrote:
Ok ok, tvp time. STORM OP

Buff the amulet!


You mean bring back the amulet

and then buff it!

Nailed it!
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 13 2018 11:48 GMT
#213
Gabe
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
July 13 2018 11:50 GMT
#214
Damn it. RIP Scarlett, going 2-3 vs the guy who won the last two should be worth a second chance at least. This single elim is brutal
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Vedeynevin
Profile Joined February 2015
United States431 Posts
July 13 2018 11:50 GMT
#215
On July 13 2018 20:46 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2018 20:41 Vedeynevin wrote:
On July 13 2018 20:36 Fango wrote:
On July 13 2018 20:32 Vedeynevin wrote:
On July 13 2018 20:28 RaZorwire wrote:
On July 13 2018 20:20 Ej_ wrote:

It's not a discussion, it's a stream of whine and intelectual whine and feces polluting a live report thread, but I'm glad for your worhtwile input again, Fango, it's always appreciated


You can stick your head in the sand and pretend everything about the game is fine as much as you want while every single foreign tournament is Zerg dominated if you want to, but I don't want to do that. I'm tired of every foreign tournament being so imbalanced and predictable and dull, and I'm tired of all the foreign Terran players leaving one by one because they can't accomplish anything. I'm tired of the community ignoring all this because Korean Terrans are doing fine.

The discrepancy in racial balance between the korean scene and the foreign scene is a genuine issue with the design of the game, and it's so demoralising to see the community completely ignore it while mocking anyone who dares to bring it up.

Whatever. I'm done here.


Terran had 4/8 In the last gsl, was that a problem too? You are complaining about racial balance in a tournament with 5/5/6 tpz in th3 ro16. Thank god you are done, lol

I made this point to someone else but whatever. The issue is clearly with TvZ lategame being zerg favoured. How many of the four terrans in GSL ro8 had to face lategame TvZ on the way there? The zergs all went out to protoss iirc.

Even Maru, the two time champ, lost the games that went long against Rogue and Leenock. He still won the GSL because terran is solid to good in other areas, namely fast tank pushes against zerg and midgame aggression against toss.


I watched Maru beat rogue in the lategame last night. You know what won him the game? Ghosts

Maybe he did, but GSL is a better indicator than streams. Maru lost in the lategames against Rogue and Leenock in GSL. Along with every other terran that's tried it in a premier event recently.

Besides, this discussion is over apparently, at least until the next TvZ. HeroMarine is killing this guy.


I missed g1, what happened?
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
July 13 2018 11:50 GMT
#216
I'm really wondering about HeroMarine's dioptres. Every time I see him, his glasses seem to become thicker.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
July 13 2018 11:51 GMT
#217
On July 13 2018 20:50 Vedeynevin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2018 20:46 Fango wrote:
On July 13 2018 20:41 Vedeynevin wrote:
On July 13 2018 20:36 Fango wrote:
On July 13 2018 20:32 Vedeynevin wrote:
On July 13 2018 20:28 RaZorwire wrote:
On July 13 2018 20:20 Ej_ wrote:

It's not a discussion, it's a stream of whine and intelectual whine and feces polluting a live report thread, but I'm glad for your worhtwile input again, Fango, it's always appreciated


You can stick your head in the sand and pretend everything about the game is fine as much as you want while every single foreign tournament is Zerg dominated if you want to, but I don't want to do that. I'm tired of every foreign tournament being so imbalanced and predictable and dull, and I'm tired of all the foreign Terran players leaving one by one because they can't accomplish anything. I'm tired of the community ignoring all this because Korean Terrans are doing fine.

The discrepancy in racial balance between the korean scene and the foreign scene is a genuine issue with the design of the game, and it's so demoralising to see the community completely ignore it while mocking anyone who dares to bring it up.

Whatever. I'm done here.


Terran had 4/8 In the last gsl, was that a problem too? You are complaining about racial balance in a tournament with 5/5/6 tpz in th3 ro16. Thank god you are done, lol

I made this point to someone else but whatever. The issue is clearly with TvZ lategame being zerg favoured. How many of the four terrans in GSL ro8 had to face lategame TvZ on the way there? The zergs all went out to protoss iirc.

Even Maru, the two time champ, lost the games that went long against Rogue and Leenock. He still won the GSL because terran is solid to good in other areas, namely fast tank pushes against zerg and midgame aggression against toss.


I watched Maru beat rogue in the lategame last night. You know what won him the game? Ghosts

Maybe he did, but GSL is a better indicator than streams. Maru lost in the lategames against Rogue and Leenock in GSL. Along with every other terran that's tried it in a premier event recently.

Besides, this discussion is over apparently, at least until the next TvZ. HeroMarine is killing this guy.


I missed g1, what happened?

Resonating glaives pressure w/ probe cut vs. cloak banshee into stomp.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
MarthTV
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany387 Posts
July 13 2018 11:51 GMT
#218
I faintly remember a protoss unit called "Colossus" in this matchup but I think those have gone extinct.
youtube.com/c/MarthTV | twitter.com/Marth_TV | twitch.tv/marthtv
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
July 13 2018 11:53 GMT
#219
On July 13 2018 20:51 MarthTV wrote:
I faintly remember a protoss unit called "Colossus" in this matchup but I think those have gone extinct.


Marauder good unit, that's why
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19339 Posts
July 13 2018 11:53 GMT
#220
On July 13 2018 20:51 MarthTV wrote:
I faintly remember a protoss unit called "Colossus" in this matchup but I think those have gone extinct.

I think they should either be given cloak or burrow.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
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