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PepsiMaxxxx
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden5452 Posts
August 14 2016 16:52 GMT
#4181
He attacked with the lings at the third as a distraction. That was smart!
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 14 2016 16:52 GMT
#4182
On August 15 2016 01:51 Vanadiel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2016 01:47 FFW_Rude wrote:
On August 15 2016 01:43 EatingBomber wrote:
My fucking God, I don't want to live in a world where Avilo's style becomes the norm and the man himself becomes anything other than a joke


Because you think he'll qualify for something even with his entire race buffed ? lol


The question is not wether he will qualify or not, but if good terran are going to play his style. And I think it is. While I can see that the buff on cyclone could lead to more mobile mech army, the possibility to split the map and turtle are also heavily buffed.

they said they were going to make bases closer in their maps now and i didnt even think that you could make a map worse than Dusk Towers. So fucking idiotic. First they want to promote dynamic compositions and then they buff every mech unit.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
August 14 2016 16:52 GMT
#4183
JESUS, that's almost full Bomber
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
August 14 2016 16:52 GMT
#4184
I smell decisive 3-0
rip passion
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
August 14 2016 16:53 GMT
#4185
On August 15 2016 01:51 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2016 01:30 Froadac wrote:
On August 15 2016 01:29 rednusa wrote:
Were they just lucky with broodwar?

Actually, yeah.

Yep.


So lucky that 15 days before launch, they had a problem because workers stucked each other in the mineral line.

Then this happened :

- "What the fuck do we do ?????"
- "I don't know ! We're fucked !"
- "We're going to be fired !!!!"
" I got it ! make workers fly so they can go through each other"
" Oh.... Yeah we're ready to launch".
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
August 14 2016 16:53 GMT
#4186
It's almost like TRUE was once a Code S player
Liquipedia"Expert"
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28528 Posts
August 14 2016 16:53 GMT
#4187
On August 15 2016 01:52 Deathstar wrote:
I smell decisive 3-0

I smelled this as soon as yesterday (as did you iirc)
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55573 Posts
August 14 2016 16:53 GMT
#4188
On August 15 2016 01:50 EatingBomber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2016 01:49 Penev wrote:
On August 15 2016 01:48 Cricketer12 wrote:
So to recap...what the fuck is going on...im reading removal of tankivacs, bane buff, and BLINK DTS?!

blink dt's, yes, that's correct

what about it?

:D

Everyone is talking about Blink DTs and here I am worrying about one of the fundamental characteristics of SC2 Terran - infantry play, especially in the mirror

Show nested quote +
On August 15 2016 01:44 EatingBomber wrote:
On August 15 2016 01:42 Inflicted wrote:
Does the 35->40 light damage affect much for splashing in TvT?

Yes, it does, which is why I am so worried for the survival of infantry in TvT. With the increased damage, upgraded Tanks now absolutely crush Marines and Marauders - +2 Tanks (48 damage) will now 1-shot stimmed 3-3 Marines and with no upgrades, they will always kill Marauders in 2-shots... add to this the Cyclone's increased strength against armored units, and what chance does bio have in TvT?


I'm kinda concerned as well. I guess infantry/tank in the non-mirrors should still be fine if you have the micro for it. But in TvT you'll struggle to get anything done.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
EatingBomber
Profile Joined August 2015
1017 Posts
August 14 2016 16:53 GMT
#4189
On August 15 2016 01:53 Inflicted wrote:
It's almost like TRUE was once a Code S player

He is certainly of that calibre. He defeated Bunny in Season 1's Code A
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
August 14 2016 16:53 GMT
#4190
I understand why TRUE is playing so well though. You need to ask yourself, what is Heromarine fighting for? What does he have besides himself? He is only fighting for his ego. TRUE is fighting for something more. He is fighting to avenge the honor of Major and his baby. TRUE is on a mission to destroy Heromarine and that is why Heromarine doesn't stand a chance.
rip passion
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
August 14 2016 16:53 GMT
#4191
On August 15 2016 01:51 Vanadiel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2016 01:47 FFW_Rude wrote:
On August 15 2016 01:43 EatingBomber wrote:
My fucking God, I don't want to live in a world where Avilo's style becomes the norm and the man himself becomes anything other than a joke


Because you think he'll qualify for something even with his entire race buffed ? lol


The question is not wether he will qualify or not, but if good terran are going to play his style. And I think it is. While I can see that the buff on cyclone could lead to more mobile mech army, the possibility to split the map and turtle are also heavily buffed.


No one plays avilo style. Players have their own style.
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Lyyna
Profile Joined June 2011
France776 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-14 16:55:26
August 14 2016 16:55 GMT
#4192
On August 15 2016 01:53 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2016 01:50 EatingBomber wrote:
On August 15 2016 01:49 Penev wrote:
On August 15 2016 01:48 Cricketer12 wrote:
So to recap...what the fuck is going on...im reading removal of tankivacs, bane buff, and BLINK DTS?!

blink dt's, yes, that's correct

what about it?

:D

Everyone is talking about Blink DTs and here I am worrying about one of the fundamental characteristics of SC2 Terran - infantry play, especially in the mirror

On August 15 2016 01:44 EatingBomber wrote:
On August 15 2016 01:42 Inflicted wrote:
Does the 35->40 light damage affect much for splashing in TvT?

Yes, it does, which is why I am so worried for the survival of infantry in TvT. With the increased damage, upgraded Tanks now absolutely crush Marines and Marauders - +2 Tanks (48 damage) will now 1-shot stimmed 3-3 Marines and with no upgrades, they will always kill Marauders in 2-shots... add to this the Cyclone's increased strength against armored units, and what chance does bio have in TvT?


I'm kinda concerned as well. I guess infantry/tank in the non-mirrors should still be fine if you have the micro for it. But in TvT you'll struggle to get anything done.

Bio players might finally learn to play against mech with another strategy than "waves of bio into sieged lines until i win"

Source : 5 years of mech experience
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-strategy/459600-how-to-mech-them-cry-lyynas-mech-in-hots - The 2014 Mech guide ! http://www.twitch.tv/lyyna for stream and contact infos
PepsiMaxxxx
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden5452 Posts
August 14 2016 16:55 GMT
#4193
TRUE's Muats getting the most useless unit awards.
riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3394 Posts
August 14 2016 16:55 GMT
#4194
Micro harder Hermione
Daniel C
Profile Joined October 2010
Hong Kong1606 Posts
August 14 2016 16:56 GMT
#4195
lings are good
In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28528 Posts
August 14 2016 16:56 GMT
#4196
On August 15 2016 01:53 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2016 01:50 EatingBomber wrote:
On August 15 2016 01:49 Penev wrote:
On August 15 2016 01:48 Cricketer12 wrote:
So to recap...what the fuck is going on...im reading removal of tankivacs, bane buff, and BLINK DTS?!

blink dt's, yes, that's correct

what about it?

:D

Everyone is talking about Blink DTs and here I am worrying about one of the fundamental characteristics of SC2 Terran - infantry play, especially in the mirror

On August 15 2016 01:44 EatingBomber wrote:
On August 15 2016 01:42 Inflicted wrote:
Does the 35->40 light damage affect much for splashing in TvT?

Yes, it does, which is why I am so worried for the survival of infantry in TvT. With the increased damage, upgraded Tanks now absolutely crush Marines and Marauders - +2 Tanks (48 damage) will now 1-shot stimmed 3-3 Marines and with no upgrades, they will always kill Marauders in 2-shots... add to this the Cyclone's increased strength against armored units, and what chance does bio have in TvT?


I'm kinda concerned as well. I guess infantry/tank in the non-mirrors should still be fine if you have the micro for it. But in TvT you'll struggle to get anything done.

I do understand it tho, Terran should have a natural upgrade path into later tier units like the others and not rely on their early game stuff so much whole game
I Protoss winner, could it be?
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
August 14 2016 16:56 GMT
#4197
On August 15 2016 01:55 riotjune wrote:
Micro harder Hermione


Now i need reaper to yell EXPELIARMUS when mines explodes
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 14 2016 16:56 GMT
#4198
On August 15 2016 01:53 EatingBomber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2016 01:53 Inflicted wrote:
It's almost like TRUE was once a Code S player

He is certainly of that calibre. He defeated Bunny in Season 1's Code A

Did you see those games?
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
August 14 2016 16:57 GMT
#4199
Korean Terran would have won that engagement.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55573 Posts
August 14 2016 16:57 GMT
#4200
On August 15 2016 01:55 Lyyna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2016 01:53 Elentos wrote:
On August 15 2016 01:50 EatingBomber wrote:
On August 15 2016 01:49 Penev wrote:
On August 15 2016 01:48 Cricketer12 wrote:
So to recap...what the fuck is going on...im reading removal of tankivacs, bane buff, and BLINK DTS?!

blink dt's, yes, that's correct

what about it?

:D

Everyone is talking about Blink DTs and here I am worrying about one of the fundamental characteristics of SC2 Terran - infantry play, especially in the mirror

On August 15 2016 01:44 EatingBomber wrote:
On August 15 2016 01:42 Inflicted wrote:
Does the 35->40 light damage affect much for splashing in TvT?

Yes, it does, which is why I am so worried for the survival of infantry in TvT. With the increased damage, upgraded Tanks now absolutely crush Marines and Marauders - +2 Tanks (48 damage) will now 1-shot stimmed 3-3 Marines and with no upgrades, they will always kill Marauders in 2-shots... add to this the Cyclone's increased strength against armored units, and what chance does bio have in TvT?


I'm kinda concerned as well. I guess infantry/tank in the non-mirrors should still be fine if you have the micro for it. But in TvT you'll struggle to get anything done.

Bio players might finally learn to play against mech with another strategy than "waves of bio into sieged lines until i win"

Source : 5 years of mech experience

Stimmed 3/3 marines die in one +2 tank hit. Marauders die in two. You don't have the mobility advantage anymore because cyclones no longer suck. All you can do is transition into mech from your bio.
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