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Lyyna
Profile Joined June 2011
France776 Posts
August 14 2016 16:43 GMT
#4141
On August 15 2016 01:43 EatingBomber wrote:
My fucking God, I don't want to live in a world where Avilo's style becomes the norm and the man himself becomes anything other than a joke

The whole point of buffing mech is to allow it to be viable with another style than "cancer turtling because literally everything can kill you"
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-strategy/459600-how-to-mech-them-cry-lyynas-mech-in-hots - The 2014 Mech guide ! http://www.twitch.tv/lyyna for stream and contact infos
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2655 Posts
August 14 2016 16:44 GMT
#4142
On August 15 2016 01:42 Inflicted wrote:
Does the 35->40 light damage affect much for splashing in TvT?


Depends how much they scale with upgrades, if they scale like they are right now, no. (since +3 tanks get +9 flat damage, so they won't one shot marines)
Daniel C
Profile Joined October 2010
Hong Kong1606 Posts
August 14 2016 16:44 GMT
#4143
go heromarine!!
In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
August 14 2016 16:44 GMT
#4144
On August 15 2016 01:42 Lyyna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2016 01:41 Nakajin wrote:
The banshee speed not needing a fusion core, is stupidly equal to the blink dt, how the fuck are you suppose to defend against a banshee rush when nothing is fast enough to catch them, and I mean literally no unit for zerg and terran.

Speed banshees are weaker oracles


Don't know they seem to kill my marine a lot more then the oracle, and they don't have energy. They also kill roach and queen soooo
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
August 14 2016 16:44 GMT
#4145
On August 15 2016 01:43 EatingBomber wrote:
My fucking God, I don't want to live in a world where Avilo's style becomes the norm and the man himself becomes anything other than a joke

I do see potential for non-turtle mech with the buffed cyclone.

Bio did kinda get shafted with these changes.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16030 Posts
August 14 2016 16:44 GMT
#4146
I don't want to be negative but I have to say I hate their new approach of making massive changes.
This is not LoL where you can just make crazy changes all the time.
Sc2 balance/design must be adressed much more carefully.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
August 14 2016 16:44 GMT
#4147
hahahaha
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2655 Posts
August 14 2016 16:44 GMT
#4148
On August 15 2016 01:43 EatingBomber wrote:
My fucking God, I don't want to live in a world where Avilo's style becomes the norm and the man himself becomes anything other than a joke


Its not like they buffed the aggressive options of mech, like cyclones and speed banshees, right?
EatingBomber
Profile Joined August 2015
1017 Posts
August 14 2016 16:44 GMT
#4149
On August 15 2016 01:42 Inflicted wrote:
Does the 35->40 light damage affect much for splashing in TvT?

Yes, it does, which is why I am so worried for the survival of infantry in TvT. With the increased damage, upgraded Tanks now absolutely crush Marines and Marauders - +2 Tanks (48 damage) will now 1-shot stimmed 3-3 Marines and with no upgrades, they will always kill Marauders in 2-shots... add to this the Cyclone's increased strength against armored units, and what chance does bio have in TvT?
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
August 14 2016 16:44 GMT
#4150
Allows the Dark Templar to teleport a short distance.
Research from Dark Shrine.

150/150 cost.
121 research time.

Cooldown of 21 seconds.

Imo they could easily increase cost/research, if they want it to truly be a lategame thing
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
August 14 2016 16:45 GMT
#4151
On August 15 2016 01:44 Charoisaur wrote:
I don't want to be negative but I have to say I hate their new approach of making massive changes.
This is not LoL where you can just make crazy changes all the time.
Sc2 balance/design must be adressed much more carefully.

Of course it's not LoL, if it was LoL these changes would be every other week.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 14 2016 16:45 GMT
#4152
On August 15 2016 01:44 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2016 01:43 EatingBomber wrote:
My fucking God, I don't want to live in a world where Avilo's style becomes the norm and the man himself becomes anything other than a joke

I do see potential for non-turtle mech with the buffed cyclone.

Bio did kinda get shafted with these changes.

the "lol I make racecars and take 7 bases while you can't leave your side of the map" mech
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
August 14 2016 16:45 GMT
#4153
DT blink has the same research time as stim btw

Should be longer because of chrono imo
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
August 14 2016 16:45 GMT
#4154
On August 15 2016 01:43 EatingBomber wrote:
My fucking God, I don't want to live in a world where Avilo's style becomes the norm and the man himself becomes anything other than a joke



Avilo is hated for his work but he puts up the good fight. The hero we need but don't deserve
rip passion
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
August 14 2016 16:45 GMT
#4155
On August 15 2016 01:43 EatingBomber wrote:
My fucking God, I don't want to live in a world where Avilo's style becomes the norm and the man himself becomes anything other than a joke

Too many maphackers and stream-cheaters for him to make it big anyways. Even in today's meta he'd be a GSL champion without them.
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
August 14 2016 16:45 GMT
#4156
On August 15 2016 01:41 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2016 01:40 royalroadweed wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Brood war tanks are back.

I'm waiting for all the 100 EAPM gods to come back


Blizzcon 2017 Presents

A mech production...

THE RETURN OF GOODY
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Vanadiel
Profile Joined April 2012
France961 Posts
August 14 2016 16:45 GMT
#4157
On August 15 2016 01:43 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2016 01:43 EatingBomber wrote:
My fucking God, I don't want to live in a world where Avilo's style becomes the norm and the man himself becomes anything other than a joke


He won't be relevant anyway. He's not even close to true progamer.


Of course he won't, but his style might be.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24593 Posts
August 14 2016 16:45 GMT
#4158
On August 15 2016 01:44 Charoisaur wrote:
I don't want to be negative but I have to say I hate their new approach of making massive changes.
This is not LoL where you can just make crazy changes all the time.
Sc2 balance/design must be adressed much more carefully.


I see what you're saying, at the same time some shakeups can be good to make the game more dynamic (which I heard is the good thing about Dota/Lol-style balancing).
KtJ
Profile Joined October 2014
United States3514 Posts
August 14 2016 16:45 GMT
#4159
On August 15 2016 01:35 Noonius wrote:
Think about something: you warp in 2 infestors into a mineral line and just fucking destroy it

Two Infestor hit squad!
"I thought I destroyed my CC but it seemed like the only thing I destroyed was Idra's mentality."
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
August 14 2016 16:46 GMT
#4160
On August 15 2016 01:44 Charoisaur wrote:
I don't want to be negative but I have to say I hate their new approach of making massive changes.
This is not LoL where you can just make crazy changes all the time.
Sc2 balance/design must be adressed much more carefully.


we had years of slow change. The game needs to be resuscitated
rip passion
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