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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 14 2016 16:57 GMT
#4201
so is TRUE going to 4-0 Neeb or 4-1 Neeb in the final?
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 14 2016 16:58 GMT
#4202
On August 15 2016 01:57 Shellshock wrote:
so is TRUE going to 4-0 Neeb or 4-1 Neeb in the final?

2-4 vs Polt
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
August 14 2016 16:58 GMT
#4203
On August 15 2016 01:58 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2016 01:57 Shellshock wrote:
so is TRUE going to 4-0 Neeb or 4-1 Neeb in the final?

2-4 vs Polt


Seconded
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
August 14 2016 16:58 GMT
#4204
On August 15 2016 01:57 Shellshock wrote:
so is TRUE going to 4-0 Neeb or 4-1 Neeb in the final?

4-0 vs Polt
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 14 2016 16:58 GMT
#4205
On August 15 2016 01:58 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2016 01:57 Shellshock wrote:
so is TRUE going to 4-0 Neeb or 4-1 Neeb in the final?

2-4 vs Polt

Psh. Polt beating Neeb..
kiss kiss fall in love
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2655 Posts
August 14 2016 16:59 GMT
#4206
On August 15 2016 01:57 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2016 01:55 Lyyna wrote:
On August 15 2016 01:53 Elentos wrote:
On August 15 2016 01:50 EatingBomber wrote:
On August 15 2016 01:49 Penev wrote:
On August 15 2016 01:48 Cricketer12 wrote:
So to recap...what the fuck is going on...im reading removal of tankivacs, bane buff, and BLINK DTS?!

blink dt's, yes, that's correct

what about it?

:D

Everyone is talking about Blink DTs and here I am worrying about one of the fundamental characteristics of SC2 Terran - infantry play, especially in the mirror

On August 15 2016 01:44 EatingBomber wrote:
On August 15 2016 01:42 Inflicted wrote:
Does the 35->40 light damage affect much for splashing in TvT?

Yes, it does, which is why I am so worried for the survival of infantry in TvT. With the increased damage, upgraded Tanks now absolutely crush Marines and Marauders - +2 Tanks (48 damage) will now 1-shot stimmed 3-3 Marines and with no upgrades, they will always kill Marauders in 2-shots... add to this the Cyclone's increased strength against armored units, and what chance does bio have in TvT?


I'm kinda concerned as well. I guess infantry/tank in the non-mirrors should still be fine if you have the micro for it. But in TvT you'll struggle to get anything done.

Bio players might finally learn to play against mech with another strategy than "waves of bio into sieged lines until i win"

Source : 5 years of mech experience

Stimmed 3/3 marines die in one +2 tank hit. Marauders die in two. You don't have the mobility advantage anymore because cyclones no longer suck. All you can do is transition into mech from your bio.


You don't know how the game will be and what other changes are made, we all know the changes are much bigger when they are announced, that being said I do hope most of it comes out, just nothing too ridiculous.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-14 17:02:42
August 14 2016 17:00 GMT
#4207
On August 15 2016 01:56 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2016 01:53 Elentos wrote:
On August 15 2016 01:50 EatingBomber wrote:
On August 15 2016 01:49 Penev wrote:
On August 15 2016 01:48 Cricketer12 wrote:
So to recap...what the fuck is going on...im reading removal of tankivacs, bane buff, and BLINK DTS?!

blink dt's, yes, that's correct

what about it?

:D

Everyone is talking about Blink DTs and here I am worrying about one of the fundamental characteristics of SC2 Terran - infantry play, especially in the mirror

On August 15 2016 01:44 EatingBomber wrote:
On August 15 2016 01:42 Inflicted wrote:
Does the 35->40 light damage affect much for splashing in TvT?

Yes, it does, which is why I am so worried for the survival of infantry in TvT. With the increased damage, upgraded Tanks now absolutely crush Marines and Marauders - +2 Tanks (48 damage) will now 1-shot stimmed 3-3 Marines and with no upgrades, they will always kill Marauders in 2-shots... add to this the Cyclone's increased strength against armored units, and what chance does bio have in TvT?


I'm kinda concerned as well. I guess infantry/tank in the non-mirrors should still be fine if you have the micro for it. But in TvT you'll struggle to get anything done.

I do understand it tho, Terran should have a natural upgrade path into later tier units like the others and not rely on their early game stuff so much whole game

I'm just sad that they didn't do anything to help bio in the late game. Transitions are awkward and the units themselves won't hold up now. We'll see how much of this goes through though.

Not to say that I don't like these changes, but they feel incomplete.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
EatingBomber
Profile Joined August 2015
1017 Posts
August 14 2016 17:00 GMT
#4208
On August 15 2016 01:55 Lyyna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2016 01:53 Elentos wrote:
On August 15 2016 01:50 EatingBomber wrote:
On August 15 2016 01:49 Penev wrote:
On August 15 2016 01:48 Cricketer12 wrote:
So to recap...what the fuck is going on...im reading removal of tankivacs, bane buff, and BLINK DTS?!

blink dt's, yes, that's correct

what about it?

:D

Everyone is talking about Blink DTs and here I am worrying about one of the fundamental characteristics of SC2 Terran - infantry play, especially in the mirror

On August 15 2016 01:44 EatingBomber wrote:
On August 15 2016 01:42 Inflicted wrote:
Does the 35->40 light damage affect much for splashing in TvT?

Yes, it does, which is why I am so worried for the survival of infantry in TvT. With the increased damage, upgraded Tanks now absolutely crush Marines and Marauders - +2 Tanks (48 damage) will now 1-shot stimmed 3-3 Marines and with no upgrades, they will always kill Marauders in 2-shots... add to this the Cyclone's increased strength against armored units, and what chance does bio have in TvT?


I'm kinda concerned as well. I guess infantry/tank in the non-mirrors should still be fine if you have the micro for it. But in TvT you'll struggle to get anything done.

Bio players might finally learn to play against mech with another strategy than "waves of bio into sieged lines until i win"

Source : 5 years of mech experience

If you are losing to frontal assaults from infantry units, then perhaps the problem lies not in the weakness of mech. Mech in TvT has been standard ever since the days of GSL January with Mvp vs TOP; the reason you saw bio much more often was that it was also the standard against Zerg and especially against Protoss, and hence the skills are much more transferable, and thus possessed a kind of 'higher value' if you practice and become good at it, even if the style with which bio is played differed in matchup
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
August 14 2016 17:00 GMT
#4209
Not the first time that Heromarine loses the first map, he can come back from 0-2.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
August 14 2016 17:00 GMT
#4210
On August 15 2016 02:00 Musicus wrote:
Not the first time that Heromarine loses the first map, he can come back from 0-2.


Your germany bias is showing
rip passion
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
August 14 2016 17:01 GMT
#4211
On August 15 2016 02:00 Deathstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2016 02:00 Musicus wrote:
Not the first time that Heromarine loses the first map, he can come back from 0-2.


Your germany bias is showing


Well I never expected him to come back vs Showtime from 0-2. I still think his chances vs TRUE are better than they were against Showtime anyway and since he beat Showtime, he can do anything today imo.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-14 17:03:55
August 14 2016 17:03 GMT
#4212
On August 15 2016 02:01 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2016 02:00 Deathstar wrote:
On August 15 2016 02:00 Musicus wrote:
Not the first time that Heromarine loses the first map, he can come back from 0-2.


Your germany bias is showing


Well I never expected him to come back vs Showtime from 0-2. I still think his chances vs TRUE are better than they were against Showtime anyway and since he beat Showtime, he can do anything today imo.


Showtime is german too so doesn't count ! Still biased :p
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
EatingBomber
Profile Joined August 2015
1017 Posts
August 14 2016 17:04 GMT
#4213
On August 15 2016 01:58 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2016 01:57 Shellshock wrote:
so is TRUE going to 4-0 Neeb or 4-1 Neeb in the final?

2-4 vs Polt

I think Neeb crushes Polt completely, 3-0.
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
August 14 2016 17:04 GMT
#4214
On August 15 2016 01:58 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2016 01:57 Shellshock wrote:
so is TRUE going to 4-0 Neeb or 4-1 Neeb in the final?

4-0 vs Polt


you know nothing
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
August 14 2016 17:04 GMT
#4215
On August 15 2016 02:04 EatingBomber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2016 01:58 Ej_ wrote:
On August 15 2016 01:57 Shellshock wrote:
so is TRUE going to 4-0 Neeb or 4-1 Neeb in the final?

2-4 vs Polt

I think Neeb crushes Polt completely, 3-0.


Is Polt THAT bad these days ? i usually don't watch foreign tounreys
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
August 14 2016 17:05 GMT
#4216
On August 15 2016 02:04 Noonius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2016 01:58 Durnuu wrote:
On August 15 2016 01:57 Shellshock wrote:
so is TRUE going to 4-0 Neeb or 4-1 Neeb in the final?

4-0 vs Polt


you know nothing

I know I'm biased for TRUE
I do think he's gonna stomp everyone remaining though
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Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
August 14 2016 17:05 GMT
#4217
map awareness: zero
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
August 14 2016 17:05 GMT
#4218
TRUE can't win. Korean zergs are garbage.
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
EatingBomber
Profile Joined August 2015
1017 Posts
August 14 2016 17:05 GMT
#4219
On August 15 2016 02:04 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2016 02:04 EatingBomber wrote:
On August 15 2016 01:58 Ej_ wrote:
On August 15 2016 01:57 Shellshock wrote:
so is TRUE going to 4-0 Neeb or 4-1 Neeb in the final?

2-4 vs Polt

I think Neeb crushes Polt completely, 3-0.


Is Polt THAT bad these days ? i usually don't watch foreign tounreys

He has had excellent online results against KeSPA Koreans even on the Korean server as of late, but his play in this tournament has been uninspiring; especially against PtitDrogo, his most recent opponent. Neeb is a much stronger Protoss than PtitDrogo, ergo, he crushes Polt.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 14 2016 17:06 GMT
#4220
what happened to my decisive 3-0
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