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On July 03 2015 20:54 opisska wrote:BL+Ultra is my favourite composition in 2v2s 
Unless you botch it like this, of course ...
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Wow Solar fucked that engagement up.
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yeah broods fighting stalkers, ultras fighting immortals, exact opposite of what he wanted like Wolf said
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this was a cool, even if it was over when Solar decided not to take a 5th
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On July 03 2015 20:55 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend sOs vs Solar Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (1) 13% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (6) 75% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 13% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend sOs vs Solar Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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On July 03 2015 20:52 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2015 20:51 Ramiz1989 wrote:On July 03 2015 20:49 DarkLordOlli wrote:On July 03 2015 20:47 Ramiz1989 wrote:On July 03 2015 20:45 DarkLordOlli wrote:On July 03 2015 20:45 lastride wrote:
The design of this unit is just ridiculous lol Are you actually hating on phoenixes? That's just ridiculous. "Let's make the fastest unit in the game be able to shoot while moving, while at the same time give it an upgrade for 7 range, what could possibly go wrong?" Playing phoenix styles also takes great multitasking, good phoenix control (which is very hard), good decisionmaking, etc. Phoenixes are far better designed than 99% of everything else in the game. Nah, they aren't, they are pretty horrible but it's ok, I didn't expect anything different from a guy who thinks that PvP is the best matchup in the game. The best mirror, yeah I like your arguments by the way. I don't think you've ever played phoenix styles or you would realize that few things are harder to do and phoenixes are an insanely intricate and intriguing unit.
Look, Phoenix as unit(without upgrade) is actually ok, but it still falls into a SC2 category of hard counters that just make for horrible games. It is just quite hard counter to whole Zerg air and Zerg has to tech to Infestors just to be able to counter Phoenixes.
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Wow. such a good series. Comparable to a GSL RO4 or finals!!!
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Coach Stork is like "Solar what are you doing? You were supposed to 3-0 so we can go watch Homestory Cup!"
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On July 03 2015 20:56 ukiya2004 wrote:
Wow. such a good series. Comparable to a GSL RO4 or finals!!!
GSL finals suck
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Game of throws this was haha
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Czech Republic12129 Posts
On July 03 2015 20:56 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2015 20:52 DarkLordOlli wrote:On July 03 2015 20:51 Ramiz1989 wrote:On July 03 2015 20:49 DarkLordOlli wrote:On July 03 2015 20:47 Ramiz1989 wrote:On July 03 2015 20:45 DarkLordOlli wrote:On July 03 2015 20:45 lastride wrote:
The design of this unit is just ridiculous lol Are you actually hating on phoenixes? That's just ridiculous. "Let's make the fastest unit in the game be able to shoot while moving, while at the same time give it an upgrade for 7 range, what could possibly go wrong?" Playing phoenix styles also takes great multitasking, good phoenix control (which is very hard), good decisionmaking, etc. Phoenixes are far better designed than 99% of everything else in the game. Nah, they aren't, they are pretty horrible but it's ok, I didn't expect anything different from a guy who thinks that PvP is the best matchup in the game. The best mirror, yeah I like your arguments by the way. I don't think you've ever played phoenix styles or you would realize that few things are harder to do and phoenixes are an insanely intricate and intriguing unit. Look, Phoenix as unit(without upgrade) is actually ok, but it still falls into a SC2 category of hard counters that just make for horrible games. It is just quite hard counter to whole Zerg air and Zerg has to tech to Infestors just to be able to counter Phoenixes.
All those phoenix upgrades are there because of mutalisks. So in the end it is Zergs fault.
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On July 03 2015 20:56 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2015 20:52 DarkLordOlli wrote:On July 03 2015 20:51 Ramiz1989 wrote:On July 03 2015 20:49 DarkLordOlli wrote:On July 03 2015 20:47 Ramiz1989 wrote:On July 03 2015 20:45 DarkLordOlli wrote:On July 03 2015 20:45 lastride wrote:
The design of this unit is just ridiculous lol Are you actually hating on phoenixes? That's just ridiculous. "Let's make the fastest unit in the game be able to shoot while moving, while at the same time give it an upgrade for 7 range, what could possibly go wrong?" Playing phoenix styles also takes great multitasking, good phoenix control (which is very hard), good decisionmaking, etc. Phoenixes are far better designed than 99% of everything else in the game. Nah, they aren't, they are pretty horrible but it's ok, I didn't expect anything different from a guy who thinks that PvP is the best matchup in the game. The best mirror, yeah I like your arguments by the way. I don't think you've ever played phoenix styles or you would realize that few things are harder to do and phoenixes are an insanely intricate and intriguing unit. Look, Phoenix as unit(without upgrade) is actually ok, but it still falls into a SC2 category of hard counters that just make for horrible games. It is just quite hard counter to whole Zerg air and Zerg has to tech to Infestors just to be able to counter Phoenixes.
Phoenixes are a good counter to corruptors, yeah.
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Austria24422 Posts
On July 03 2015 20:56 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2015 20:52 DarkLordOlli wrote:On July 03 2015 20:51 Ramiz1989 wrote:On July 03 2015 20:49 DarkLordOlli wrote:On July 03 2015 20:47 Ramiz1989 wrote:On July 03 2015 20:45 DarkLordOlli wrote:On July 03 2015 20:45 lastride wrote:
The design of this unit is just ridiculous lol Are you actually hating on phoenixes? That's just ridiculous. "Let's make the fastest unit in the game be able to shoot while moving, while at the same time give it an upgrade for 7 range, what could possibly go wrong?" Playing phoenix styles also takes great multitasking, good phoenix control (which is very hard), good decisionmaking, etc. Phoenixes are far better designed than 99% of everything else in the game. Nah, they aren't, they are pretty horrible but it's ok, I didn't expect anything different from a guy who thinks that PvP is the best matchup in the game. The best mirror, yeah I like your arguments by the way. I don't think you've ever played phoenix styles or you would realize that few things are harder to do and phoenixes are an insanely intricate and intriguing unit. Look, Phoenix as unit(without upgrade) is actually ok, but it still falls into a SC2 category of hard counters that just make for horrible games. It is just quite hard counter to whole Zerg air and Zerg has to tech to Infestors just to be able to counter Phoenixes.
So your argument is that you need certain tech to beat another?
Are you trying to tell me that there's a strategic aspect to the game?!
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On July 03 2015 20:57 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2015 20:56 Ramiz1989 wrote:On July 03 2015 20:52 DarkLordOlli wrote:On July 03 2015 20:51 Ramiz1989 wrote:On July 03 2015 20:49 DarkLordOlli wrote:On July 03 2015 20:47 Ramiz1989 wrote:On July 03 2015 20:45 DarkLordOlli wrote:On July 03 2015 20:45 lastride wrote:
The design of this unit is just ridiculous lol Are you actually hating on phoenixes? That's just ridiculous. "Let's make the fastest unit in the game be able to shoot while moving, while at the same time give it an upgrade for 7 range, what could possibly go wrong?" Playing phoenix styles also takes great multitasking, good phoenix control (which is very hard), good decisionmaking, etc. Phoenixes are far better designed than 99% of everything else in the game. Nah, they aren't, they are pretty horrible but it's ok, I didn't expect anything different from a guy who thinks that PvP is the best matchup in the game. The best mirror, yeah I like your arguments by the way. I don't think you've ever played phoenix styles or you would realize that few things are harder to do and phoenixes are an insanely intricate and intriguing unit. Look, Phoenix as unit(without upgrade) is actually ok, but it still falls into a SC2 category of hard counters that just make for horrible games. It is just quite hard counter to whole Zerg air and Zerg has to tech to Infestors just to be able to counter Phoenixes. All those phoenix upgrades are there because of mutalisks. So in the end it is Zergs fault.
Please let's not go down that road, there's a rather enjoyable ZvP on stream
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On July 03 2015 20:56 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2015 20:52 DarkLordOlli wrote:On July 03 2015 20:51 Ramiz1989 wrote:On July 03 2015 20:49 DarkLordOlli wrote:On July 03 2015 20:47 Ramiz1989 wrote:On July 03 2015 20:45 DarkLordOlli wrote:On July 03 2015 20:45 lastride wrote:
The design of this unit is just ridiculous lol Are you actually hating on phoenixes? That's just ridiculous. "Let's make the fastest unit in the game be able to shoot while moving, while at the same time give it an upgrade for 7 range, what could possibly go wrong?" Playing phoenix styles also takes great multitasking, good phoenix control (which is very hard), good decisionmaking, etc. Phoenixes are far better designed than 99% of everything else in the game. Nah, they aren't, they are pretty horrible but it's ok, I didn't expect anything different from a guy who thinks that PvP is the best matchup in the game. The best mirror, yeah I like your arguments by the way. I don't think you've ever played phoenix styles or you would realize that few things are harder to do and phoenixes are an insanely intricate and intriguing unit. Look, Phoenix as unit(without upgrade) is actually ok, but it still falls into a SC2 category of hard counters that just make for horrible games. It is just quite hard counter to whole Zerg air and Zerg has to tech to Infestors just to be able to counter Phoenixes.
It's only a "hard counter" if you are as great as sOs, even most of the pros can't get that much out of them. And they have obvious vulnerabilities, such as being useless against anything else, which is kindof exactly what the zerg wants anyway, as the race with the easiest techswitch. There is really no problem with them and phoenix games are often amazing.
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On July 03 2015 20:58 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2015 20:56 Ramiz1989 wrote:On July 03 2015 20:52 DarkLordOlli wrote:On July 03 2015 20:51 Ramiz1989 wrote:On July 03 2015 20:49 DarkLordOlli wrote:On July 03 2015 20:47 Ramiz1989 wrote:On July 03 2015 20:45 DarkLordOlli wrote:On July 03 2015 20:45 lastride wrote:
The design of this unit is just ridiculous lol Are you actually hating on phoenixes? That's just ridiculous. "Let's make the fastest unit in the game be able to shoot while moving, while at the same time give it an upgrade for 7 range, what could possibly go wrong?" Playing phoenix styles also takes great multitasking, good phoenix control (which is very hard), good decisionmaking, etc. Phoenixes are far better designed than 99% of everything else in the game. Nah, they aren't, they are pretty horrible but it's ok, I didn't expect anything different from a guy who thinks that PvP is the best matchup in the game. The best mirror, yeah I like your arguments by the way. I don't think you've ever played phoenix styles or you would realize that few things are harder to do and phoenixes are an insanely intricate and intriguing unit. Look, Phoenix as unit(without upgrade) is actually ok, but it still falls into a SC2 category of hard counters that just make for horrible games. It is just quite hard counter to whole Zerg air and Zerg has to tech to Infestors just to be able to counter Phoenixes. So your argument is that you need a certain tech to beat another? Are you trying to tell me that there's a strategic aspect to the game?!
the argument is that no matter your air superiority, phoenixes with an upgrade destroy everything without taking any damage (if you have proper control). It's kind of sucky design, yeah.
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