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OceanBeach
Profile Joined November 2014
Canada12 Posts
April 05 2015 19:50 GMT
#3201
I believe Hydra can take the crown
Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
April 05 2015 19:50 GMT
#3202
On April 06 2015 04:49 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2015 04:49 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:48 Ej_ wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:48 Lexender wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:47 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:46 HellHound wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:45 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Such a shame that Blizzard's poor decision making on selecting maps leads to professional games like that. I don't understand how that kind of thing happens in 2015, Starcraft 1 came out in 1998

What does the horrible map have to do with anything atm?


Do you think Hydra would have done that build on King Sejong Station?


Yes, that map was quite awful too.

I can't take seriously anyone who thinks KSS wasn't a great map.


KSS is the greatest map sc2 has seen. It is the Fighting Spirit of this game.

It's #2 after Whirlwind.


Whirlwind is a solid map, too. I just like 2 player maps a bit more because of removed randomness.
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
April 05 2015 19:50 GMT
#3203
On April 06 2015 04:49 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2015 04:48 fixed_point wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:46 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:45 brickrd wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:34 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:33 BaneRiders wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:27 stuchiu wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:26 boxerfred wrote:
it just has a bitter taste that region-locked WCS has Polt vs. hydra in the finals. I mean, I can live with Polt, he's in the US since such a long time. but hydra?


He's been living in America for 4 months.


I think we can live with 3 Koreans in Ro32 in WCS. That being said, Koreans eligible to play in WCS should have a separate qualifier somehow so the number is always limited to a maximum of 3 in Ro32. Whatever people say, it is clear that this tournament has attracted much more viewers than any WCS event in a long time, but if WCS starts to get flooded with Koreans again, the viewer count will start dropping fast I fear...


People always say that and it never happens at all. There is literally no linear correlation between the # of Koreans and the viewers.

In every esports game the popularity of the game being played directly relates to the interest of the professional scene..

totalbiscuit tried to make a foreigner championship with shoutcraft and afterward he came out and said the money and viewership didn't make it viable. the "foreigners competing for a foreign championship = viewers" argument is literally based on nothing. it's a hallucination that comes from foreigner fanboys because they don't want to accept that korean starcraft is more popular and better to watch


Yes I know. I was instinctively reacting to that general opinion. If anything, more Koreans increases viewership,

More precisely, good Koreans increase viewership.

idk about that, Flash and Jaedong seem to bring a lot of viewers


lol :D
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-05 19:50:51
April 05 2015 19:50 GMT
#3204
On April 06 2015 04:46 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2015 04:45 brickrd wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:34 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:33 BaneRiders wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:27 stuchiu wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:26 boxerfred wrote:
it just has a bitter taste that region-locked WCS has Polt vs. hydra in the finals. I mean, I can live with Polt, he's in the US since such a long time. but hydra?


He's been living in America for 4 months.


I think we can live with 3 Koreans in Ro32 in WCS. That being said, Koreans eligible to play in WCS should have a separate qualifier somehow so the number is always limited to a maximum of 3 in Ro32. Whatever people say, it is clear that this tournament has attracted much more viewers than any WCS event in a long time, but if WCS starts to get flooded with Koreans again, the viewer count will start dropping fast I fear...


People always say that and it never happens at all. There is literally no linear correlation between the # of Koreans and the viewers.

In every esports game the popularity of the game being played directly relates to the interest of the professional scene..

totalbiscuit tried to make a foreigner championship with shoutcraft and afterward he came out and said the money and viewership didn't make it viable. the "foreigners competing for a foreign championship = viewers" argument is literally based on nothing. it's a hallucination that comes from foreigner fanboys because they don't want to accept that korean starcraft is more popular and better to watch


Yes I know. I was instinctively reacting to that general opinion. If anything, more Koreans increases viewership,

Although I think that the big problem is that the foreign scene is pretty much dead. Besides Snute and Bunny, there's noone able to compete with Koreans. I remember that even a bad player like Goody pulled in viewers in the early days. Remember aTn's Cloud? Beastyqt? Tarson? Whitera? Thorzain? Stephano? Idra? Huk? Nerchio? TLO as a terran? Even Jinro playing? And so on. Today's foreigner names are (to me) very empty. Showtime, Lilbow, who are those protosses that are considered being the "best foreign protoss"? Sorry, they are mediocre protosses. Going down 0-3 to hydra - well, noone blames you on that, but imagine that would've been Naniwa. Or Huk in his prime. Remember Idra! The foreign scene wasn't dead from the very beginning, on the contrary. I feel like with WoL, foreign starcraft - died.
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
April 05 2015 19:50 GMT
#3205
On April 06 2015 04:40 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2015 04:39 boxerfred wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:37 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:36 boxerfred wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:34 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:33 BaneRiders wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:27 stuchiu wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:26 boxerfred wrote:
it just has a bitter taste that region-locked WCS has Polt vs. hydra in the finals. I mean, I can live with Polt, he's in the US since such a long time. but hydra?


He's been living in America for 4 months.


I think we can live with 3 Koreans in Ro32 in WCS. That being said, Koreans eligible to play in WCS should have a separate qualifier somehow so the number is always limited to a maximum of 3 in Ro32. Whatever people say, it is clear that this tournament has attracted much more viewers than any WCS event in a long time, but if WCS starts to get flooded with Koreans again, the viewer count will start dropping fast I fear...


People always say that and it never happens at all. There is literally no linear correlation between the # of Koreans and the viewers.

In every esports game the popularity of the game being played directly relates to the interest of the professional scene..

Okay, you remember that tournament from Pughy where he included KeSPA pros?


I'm just annoyed at all the ignorant/semi-racist people on the internet trying insinuate that having Korean's in a tournament leads to lower viewership. Anyone with that opinion should get a lobotomy

I wanted to imply that high-profile korean names actually increase viewership. Your average Alicia, Squirtle, Daisy et al won't of course. That would be the "faceless" road.


Oh, perhaps actually! particularly at some of those old Mlg's that was certainly the case.


So no more calling for lobotomy and calling people semi-racists?
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55578 Posts
April 05 2015 19:50 GMT
#3206
On April 06 2015 04:49 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2015 04:47 Ej_ wrote:
Polt should do the build from g1 again.

He slays dragons?

He moves objects with his mind, confusing Hydra immensly.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2656 Posts
April 05 2015 19:51 GMT
#3207
On April 06 2015 04:49 Alchemik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2015 04:48 Lexender wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:47 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:46 HellHound wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:45 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Such a shame that Blizzard's poor decision making on selecting maps leads to professional games like that. I don't understand how that kind of thing happens in 2015, Starcraft 1 came out in 1998

What does the horrible map have to do with anything atm?


Do you think Hydra would have done that build on King Sejong Station?


Yes, that map was quite awful too.

it was a very good map, wtf


Maybe it was just me, between the back door rocks and all the blink space I saw too many all ins for my terran hearth
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
April 05 2015 19:51 GMT
#3208
On April 06 2015 04:50 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2015 04:49 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:47 Ej_ wrote:
Polt should do the build from g1 again.

He slays dragons?

He moves objects with his mind, confusing Hydra immensly.

He is faster and stronger.
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
April 05 2015 19:51 GMT
#3209
On April 06 2015 04:50 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2015 04:46 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:45 brickrd wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:34 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:33 BaneRiders wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:27 stuchiu wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:26 boxerfred wrote:
it just has a bitter taste that region-locked WCS has Polt vs. hydra in the finals. I mean, I can live with Polt, he's in the US since such a long time. but hydra?


He's been living in America for 4 months.


I think we can live with 3 Koreans in Ro32 in WCS. That being said, Koreans eligible to play in WCS should have a separate qualifier somehow so the number is always limited to a maximum of 3 in Ro32. Whatever people say, it is clear that this tournament has attracted much more viewers than any WCS event in a long time, but if WCS starts to get flooded with Koreans again, the viewer count will start dropping fast I fear...


People always say that and it never happens at all. There is literally no linear correlation between the # of Koreans and the viewers.

In every esports game the popularity of the game being played directly relates to the interest of the professional scene..

totalbiscuit tried to make a foreigner championship with shoutcraft and afterward he came out and said the money and viewership didn't make it viable. the "foreigners competing for a foreign championship = viewers" argument is literally based on nothing. it's a hallucination that comes from foreigner fanboys because they don't want to accept that korean starcraft is more popular and better to watch


Yes I know. I was instinctively reacting to that general opinion. If anything, more Koreans increases viewership,

Although I think that the big problem is that the foreign scene is pretty much dead. Besides Snute and Bunny, there's noone able to compete with Koreans. I remember that even a bad player like Goody pulled in viewers in the early days. Remember aTn's Cloud? Beastyqt? Tarson? Whitera? Thorzain? Stephano? Idra? Huk? Nerchio? TLO as a terran? Even Jinro playing? And so on. Today's foreigner names are (to me) very empty. Showtime, Lilbow, who are those protosses that are considered being the "best foreign protoss"? Sorry, they are mediocre protosses. Going down 0-3 to hydra - well, noone blames you on that, but imagine that would've been Naniwa. Or Huk in his prime. Remember Idra! The foreign scene wasn't dead from the very beginning, on the contrary. I feel like with WoL, foreign starcraft - died.

Did you just say something positive about Naniwa? wat
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17735 Posts
April 05 2015 19:51 GMT
#3210
On April 06 2015 04:51 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2015 04:50 Elentos wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:49 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:47 Ej_ wrote:
Polt should do the build from g1 again.

He slays dragons?

He moves objects with his mind, confusing Hydra immensly.

He is faster and stronger.

he's never bored
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Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
April 05 2015 19:51 GMT
#3211
The in-booth typing mic feels retarded to me...
SC2 is the best game to watch and was the best to play before I grew old and slow...
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
April 05 2015 19:51 GMT
#3212
On April 06 2015 04:49 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2015 04:48 fixed_point wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:46 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:45 brickrd wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:34 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:33 BaneRiders wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:27 stuchiu wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:26 boxerfred wrote:
it just has a bitter taste that region-locked WCS has Polt vs. hydra in the finals. I mean, I can live with Polt, he's in the US since such a long time. but hydra?


He's been living in America for 4 months.


I think we can live with 3 Koreans in Ro32 in WCS. That being said, Koreans eligible to play in WCS should have a separate qualifier somehow so the number is always limited to a maximum of 3 in Ro32. Whatever people say, it is clear that this tournament has attracted much more viewers than any WCS event in a long time, but if WCS starts to get flooded with Koreans again, the viewer count will start dropping fast I fear...


People always say that and it never happens at all. There is literally no linear correlation between the # of Koreans and the viewers.

In every esports game the popularity of the game being played directly relates to the interest of the professional scene..

totalbiscuit tried to make a foreigner championship with shoutcraft and afterward he came out and said the money and viewership didn't make it viable. the "foreigners competing for a foreign championship = viewers" argument is literally based on nothing. it's a hallucination that comes from foreigner fanboys because they don't want to accept that korean starcraft is more popular and better to watch


Yes I know. I was instinctively reacting to that general opinion. If anything, more Koreans increases viewership,

More precisely, good Koreans increase viewership.

idk about that, Flash and Jaedong seem to bring a lot of viewers


Someone call the ambulance. We have two victims with 3rd degree burns.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55578 Posts
April 05 2015 19:51 GMT
#3213
On April 06 2015 04:51 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2015 04:50 Elentos wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:49 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:47 Ej_ wrote:
Polt should do the build from g1 again.

He slays dragons?

He moves objects with his mind, confusing Hydra immensly.

He is faster and stronger.

And he also defends the galaxy from ruthless aliens. Polt is G1 confirmed.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
April 05 2015 19:52 GMT
#3214
On April 06 2015 04:49 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2015 04:49 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:48 Ej_ wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:48 Lexender wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:47 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:46 HellHound wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:45 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Such a shame that Blizzard's poor decision making on selecting maps leads to professional games like that. I don't understand how that kind of thing happens in 2015, Starcraft 1 came out in 1998

What does the horrible map have to do with anything atm?


Do you think Hydra would have done that build on King Sejong Station?


Yes, that map was quite awful too.

I can't take seriously anyone who thinks KSS wasn't a great map.


KSS is the greatest map sc2 has seen. It is the Fighting Spirit of this game.

It's #2 after Whirlwind.

You people forgot Frost all too quick, it's a tie.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
April 05 2015 19:52 GMT
#3215
On April 06 2015 04:51 Lexender wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2015 04:49 Alchemik wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:48 Lexender wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:47 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:46 HellHound wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:45 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Such a shame that Blizzard's poor decision making on selecting maps leads to professional games like that. I don't understand how that kind of thing happens in 2015, Starcraft 1 came out in 1998

What does the horrible map have to do with anything atm?


Do you think Hydra would have done that build on King Sejong Station?


Yes, that map was quite awful too.

it was a very good map, wtf


Maybe it was just me, between the back door rocks and all the blink space I saw too many all ins for my terran hearth

well great there were some 1 base blink all-ins, but that doesn't mean the whole map was terrible
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
April 05 2015 19:52 GMT
#3216
On April 06 2015 04:51 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2015 04:50 boxerfred wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:46 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:45 brickrd wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:34 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:33 BaneRiders wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:27 stuchiu wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:26 boxerfred wrote:
it just has a bitter taste that region-locked WCS has Polt vs. hydra in the finals. I mean, I can live with Polt, he's in the US since such a long time. but hydra?


He's been living in America for 4 months.


I think we can live with 3 Koreans in Ro32 in WCS. That being said, Koreans eligible to play in WCS should have a separate qualifier somehow so the number is always limited to a maximum of 3 in Ro32. Whatever people say, it is clear that this tournament has attracted much more viewers than any WCS event in a long time, but if WCS starts to get flooded with Koreans again, the viewer count will start dropping fast I fear...


People always say that and it never happens at all. There is literally no linear correlation between the # of Koreans and the viewers.

In every esports game the popularity of the game being played directly relates to the interest of the professional scene..

totalbiscuit tried to make a foreigner championship with shoutcraft and afterward he came out and said the money and viewership didn't make it viable. the "foreigners competing for a foreign championship = viewers" argument is literally based on nothing. it's a hallucination that comes from foreigner fanboys because they don't want to accept that korean starcraft is more popular and better to watch


Yes I know. I was instinctively reacting to that general opinion. If anything, more Koreans increases viewership,

Although I think that the big problem is that the foreign scene is pretty much dead. Besides Snute and Bunny, there's noone able to compete with Koreans. I remember that even a bad player like Goody pulled in viewers in the early days. Remember aTn's Cloud? Beastyqt? Tarson? Whitera? Thorzain? Stephano? Idra? Huk? Nerchio? TLO as a terran? Even Jinro playing? And so on. Today's foreigner names are (to me) very empty. Showtime, Lilbow, who are those protosses that are considered being the "best foreign protoss"? Sorry, they are mediocre protosses. Going down 0-3 to hydra - well, noone blames you on that, but imagine that would've been Naniwa. Or Huk in his prime. Remember Idra! The foreign scene wasn't dead from the very beginning, on the contrary. I feel like with WoL, foreign starcraft - died.

Did you just say something positive about Naniwa? wat

Haha yeah
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
April 05 2015 19:52 GMT
#3217
On April 06 2015 04:51 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2015 04:51 The_Templar wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:50 Elentos wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:49 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:47 Ej_ wrote:
Polt should do the build from g1 again.

He slays dragons?

He moves objects with his mind, confusing Hydra immensly.

He is faster and stronger.

And he also defends the galaxy from ruthless aliens. Polt is G1 confirmed.

I expect nothing less from Captain America.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
April 05 2015 19:52 GMT
#3218
On April 06 2015 04:51 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2015 04:50 boxerfred wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:46 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:45 brickrd wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:34 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:33 BaneRiders wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:27 stuchiu wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:26 boxerfred wrote:
it just has a bitter taste that region-locked WCS has Polt vs. hydra in the finals. I mean, I can live with Polt, he's in the US since such a long time. but hydra?


He's been living in America for 4 months.


I think we can live with 3 Koreans in Ro32 in WCS. That being said, Koreans eligible to play in WCS should have a separate qualifier somehow so the number is always limited to a maximum of 3 in Ro32. Whatever people say, it is clear that this tournament has attracted much more viewers than any WCS event in a long time, but if WCS starts to get flooded with Koreans again, the viewer count will start dropping fast I fear...


People always say that and it never happens at all. There is literally no linear correlation between the # of Koreans and the viewers.

In every esports game the popularity of the game being played directly relates to the interest of the professional scene..

totalbiscuit tried to make a foreigner championship with shoutcraft and afterward he came out and said the money and viewership didn't make it viable. the "foreigners competing for a foreign championship = viewers" argument is literally based on nothing. it's a hallucination that comes from foreigner fanboys because they don't want to accept that korean starcraft is more popular and better to watch


Yes I know. I was instinctively reacting to that general opinion. If anything, more Koreans increases viewership,

Although I think that the big problem is that the foreign scene is pretty much dead. Besides Snute and Bunny, there's noone able to compete with Koreans. I remember that even a bad player like Goody pulled in viewers in the early days. Remember aTn's Cloud? Beastyqt? Tarson? Whitera? Thorzain? Stephano? Idra? Huk? Nerchio? TLO as a terran? Even Jinro playing? And so on. Today's foreigner names are (to me) very empty. Showtime, Lilbow, who are those protosses that are considered being the "best foreign protoss"? Sorry, they are mediocre protosses. Going down 0-3 to hydra - well, noone blames you on that, but imagine that would've been Naniwa. Or Huk in his prime. Remember Idra! The foreign scene wasn't dead from the very beginning, on the contrary. I feel like with WoL, foreign starcraft - died.

Did you just say something positive about Naniwa? wat


It's because Naniwa is white
rip passion
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 05 2015 19:53 GMT
#3219
On April 06 2015 04:52 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2015 04:49 Ej_ wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:49 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:48 Ej_ wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:48 Lexender wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:47 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:46 HellHound wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:45 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Such a shame that Blizzard's poor decision making on selecting maps leads to professional games like that. I don't understand how that kind of thing happens in 2015, Starcraft 1 came out in 1998

What does the horrible map have to do with anything atm?


Do you think Hydra would have done that build on King Sejong Station?


Yes, that map was quite awful too.

I can't take seriously anyone who thinks KSS wasn't a great map.


KSS is the greatest map sc2 has seen. It is the Fighting Spirit of this game.

It's #2 after Whirlwind.

You people forgot Frost all too quick, it's a tie.

Frost suffered from some awful chokes and highgrounds that could make PvZ super stupid. It was a good Whirlwind replacement though.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
April 05 2015 19:53 GMT
#3220
Polt supply blocked again.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
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