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TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2655 Posts
April 05 2015 19:55 GMT
#3241
On April 06 2015 04:54 GumBa wrote:
I dont know why people are suprised. Mechanics and especially macro was never Polts strong suite

True, but at least he didn't use to be supply blocked hugely EVERY SINGLE GAME.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
April 05 2015 19:55 GMT
#3242
On April 06 2015 04:55 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2015 04:54 OtherWorld wrote:
Guys best maps of HotS are Frost > Foxtrot > Pantanal > Habitation > KSS, that's all d:

I'd be inclined to say Frost > Habitation > KSS > Foxtrot > Pantanal.

Gwangali Beach>all
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
April 05 2015 19:55 GMT
#3243
whats up with that whirlwind hype?
daybreak #1
TL+ Member
Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
April 05 2015 19:55 GMT
#3244
On April 06 2015 04:54 GumBa wrote:
I dont know why people are suprised. Mechanics and especially macro was never Polts strong suite


But supply block every game in a bo7 ? Come on.
SC2 is the best game to watch and was the best to play before I grew old and slow...
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 05 2015 19:56 GMT
#3245
On April 06 2015 04:55 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2015 04:55 The_Templar wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:54 OtherWorld wrote:
Guys best maps of HotS are Frost > Foxtrot > Pantanal > Habitation > KSS, that's all d:

I'd be inclined to say Frost > Habitation > KSS > Foxtrot > Pantanal.

Gwangali Beach>all

DAE Anaconda?
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
April 05 2015 19:56 GMT
#3246
On April 06 2015 04:55 Serimek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2015 04:54 GumBa wrote:
I dont know why people are suprised. Mechanics and especially macro was never Polts strong suite


But supply block every game in a bo7 ? Come on.

Back on Prime it seriously was like that. He was a timing attack god didnt need to build depots
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
April 05 2015 19:56 GMT
#3247
On April 06 2015 04:54 dazed25 wrote:
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On April 06 2015 04:50 boxerfred wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:46 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:45 brickrd wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:34 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:33 BaneRiders wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:27 stuchiu wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:26 boxerfred wrote:
it just has a bitter taste that region-locked WCS has Polt vs. hydra in the finals. I mean, I can live with Polt, he's in the US since such a long time. but hydra?


He's been living in America for 4 months.


I think we can live with 3 Koreans in Ro32 in WCS. That being said, Koreans eligible to play in WCS should have a separate qualifier somehow so the number is always limited to a maximum of 3 in Ro32. Whatever people say, it is clear that this tournament has attracted much more viewers than any WCS event in a long time, but if WCS starts to get flooded with Koreans again, the viewer count will start dropping fast I fear...


People always say that and it never happens at all. There is literally no linear correlation between the # of Koreans and the viewers.

In every esports game the popularity of the game being played directly relates to the interest of the professional scene..

totalbiscuit tried to make a foreigner championship with shoutcraft and afterward he came out and said the money and viewership didn't make it viable. the "foreigners competing for a foreign championship = viewers" argument is literally based on nothing. it's a hallucination that comes from foreigner fanboys because they don't want to accept that korean starcraft is more popular and better to watch


Yes I know. I was instinctively reacting to that general opinion. If anything, more Koreans increases viewership,

Although I think that the big problem is that the foreign scene is pretty much dead. Besides Snute and Bunny, there's noone able to compete with Koreans. I remember that even a bad player like Goody pulled in viewers in the early days. Remember aTn's Cloud? Beastyqt? Tarson? Whitera? Thorzain? Stephano? Idra? Huk? Nerchio? TLO as a terran? Even Jinro playing? And so on. Today's foreigner names are (to me) very empty. Showtime, Lilbow, who are those protosses that are considered being the "best foreign protoss"? Sorry, they are mediocre protosses. Going down 0-3 to hydra - well, noone blames you on that, but imagine that would've been Naniwa. Or Huk in his prime. Remember Idra! The foreign scene wasn't dead from the very beginning, on the contrary. I feel like with WoL, foreign starcraft - died.


I have to disagree I think there are a lot of upcoming foreign talents. MLord almost took out forGG. Serral is pretty strong. Kane is capable of beating Polt. There are other talented guys like gungfu and showtime. Honestly most of those older players were dominant at a time when the average level of play wasn't as high and before the kespa migration. I just feel like foreign players need more opportunities and consistency to be able to compete with the Koreans.

"almost taking out ForGG" is not exactly an achievement IMO. Serral - yes. That guy is on fire. Kane - no. Gunfu and Showtime are not on Snute's level and they probably won't be it anytime soon.

"I just feel like foreign players need more opportunities and consistency to be able to compete with the Koreans."
Yeah, but you wanna watch high class games, not practice, huh
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17684 Posts
April 05 2015 19:56 GMT
#3248
omg those widow mines lol
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
April 05 2015 19:56 GMT
#3249
KABOOM BABY
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
April 05 2015 19:56 GMT
#3250
Mines are a good skills toi have
Neosteel Enthusiast
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
April 05 2015 19:56 GMT
#3251
WHY
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2655 Posts
April 05 2015 19:56 GMT
#3252
Polt has a large advantage in the upgrade timings, he might be able to kill hydra with that and then 3/3.
fixed_point
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany4891 Posts
April 05 2015 19:56 GMT
#3253
Hydra's mutas got REKT
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
April 05 2015 19:56 GMT
#3254
WIDOW MINES
KtJ
Profile Joined October 2014
United States3514 Posts
April 05 2015 19:56 GMT
#3255
THE MUTAS NO
"I thought I destroyed my CC but it seemed like the only thing I destroyed was Idra's mentality."
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
April 05 2015 19:56 GMT
#3256
omg hydra won off creep
rip passion
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8158 Posts
April 05 2015 19:56 GMT
#3257
HNNGGGGGGGGGGG
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
dazed25
Profile Joined August 2014
3566 Posts
April 05 2015 19:56 GMT
#3258
OMG those mines.
Zest, Rain, Life, Stats, Flash, PartinG, herO
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
April 05 2015 19:56 GMT
#3259
Hydra, you're going to need to do a little better than that.
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
April 05 2015 19:57 GMT
#3260
OMG WIDOWS
rip passion
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