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Narcotic
Profile Joined September 2010
Italy101 Posts
October 08 2014 13:58 GMT
#21
We'd love to partecipate, I hope this will be free to join for everyone.
-There'd be more teams so more visibility for the whole event,
- You don't risk to cut some of the 'top teams'
- It takes too much time to get on top of the ladder because of the low activity on the 2v2s scene itself.
purelegacysc2
Profile Joined December 2013
6 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-08 19:05:33
October 08 2014 19:04 GMT
#22
This tournament is a great idea, and has great intentions but will ultimately be a PTSL dejavu with less attention, no offense, but Baz does not know what he is doing and what to do and has little to none support, just by uninformed community members. You will see maphackers, stream cheaters bad casters and a lot of "1v1 all stars" with no interest in 2v2 or the 2v2 community except competing for a few dollars. Even so, there will be a lot of not very good teams, and very inexperienced teams just like the PTSL. If i am not participating in the event (casting or playing) i will genuinely be shocked if anything impresses me in this tournament.
Romano
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany60 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-08 20:03:20
October 08 2014 19:59 GMT
#23
Best of luck with setting everything up for this. I hope it works out. Would love to see and participate in more 2v2 tourneys.
Edit: regarding all this streamcheating talk, there is a very simple option of putting a delay in the stream. Easy as that.
About maphackers, I don't know. One would have to see if anything curious happened. I wish there was a way to prove you're not maphacking. I'm sick of ppl calling others maphackers because they lost.
Beastyqt
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Serbia516 Posts
October 08 2014 20:25 GMT
#24
I'm not sure why some people are saying 1v1 players shouldn't compete. Best 2v2 team will win at the end, not the best 1v1 players. Also, how will there be "no good teams"? Where are they? I don't see why someone that's good in the 2v2 games wouldn't play this tournament.
Some pro players do play 2v2's, I have over 800 random wins in team games and I probably play around 100-150 2v2 games each SC2 season.

As far as tournament format goes, invite only in 2v2 (undeveloped community) would be bad idea imo. Either invite 4-8 teams and have 4-8 teams coming from qualifiers or just make it an open bracket.
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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-08 21:10:35
October 08 2014 21:09 GMT
#25
the only problem is that the 2v2 scene doesnt have alot of high lvl 2v2 players/teams, the matches are most likely gonna be extremely 1 sided until the semis/finals
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
odem
Profile Joined August 2011
143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-08 21:41:09
October 08 2014 21:39 GMT
#26
On October 09 2014 06:09 TT1 wrote:
the only problem is that the 2v2 scene doesnt have alot of high lvl 2v2 players/teams, the matches are most likely gonna be extremely 1 sided until the semis/finals

that made me lol. so u are saying there are 2 teams (4 players) which will dominate all the others? i would like to know these teams if u dont mind
kcNight
Profile Joined September 2012
United States24 Posts
October 08 2014 21:51 GMT
#27
Sounds great! I agree that there should be at least some open spots. There could be a fully open bracket if you don't mind a bunch of one sided matches in the early rounds or just have an open bracket at an earlier date.

I'd love to sign up with Lillekanin as my ally!
http://www.twitch.tv/kcnight
paddyz
Profile Joined May 2011
Ireland628 Posts
October 08 2014 22:08 GMT
#28
I know that I would be capable of getting top 4 in arranged teams on NA server, but I would get rekt by the majority of top 2v2 teams. So yes, imo it is likely that there will initially be 1 sided stomps.

The latter stages of the tournament should be really interesting though, since there are pretty much no 2v2 tournaments you never really get to see BO3-5-7 series between top teams...sure they bump into each other on ladder a bit but thats not the same.

It would be nice if this worked as an incentive to get the good players back to activly playing 2v2 again, if even just for a few weeks, getting top ranks just doesn't feel like an achievement anymore.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
October 08 2014 22:16 GMT
#29
On October 09 2014 06:39 odem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 06:09 TT1 wrote:
the only problem is that the 2v2 scene doesnt have alot of high lvl 2v2 players/teams, the matches are most likely gonna be extremely 1 sided until the semis/finals

that made me lol. so u are saying there are 2 teams (4 players) which will dominate all the others? i would like to know these teams if u dont mind


semis = 4 teams/8players~, and even then i dont think theres 8 high lvl 2v2 players. i dont know much about the EU scene tho
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
October 08 2014 22:25 GMT
#30
On October 09 2014 07:16 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 06:39 odem wrote:
On October 09 2014 06:09 TT1 wrote:
the only problem is that the 2v2 scene doesnt have alot of high lvl 2v2 players/teams, the matches are most likely gonna be extremely 1 sided until the semis/finals

that made me lol. so u are saying there are 2 teams (4 players) which will dominate all the others? i would like to know these teams if u dont mind


semis = 4 teams/8players~, and even then i dont think theres 8 high lvl 2v2 players. i dont know much about the EU scene tho

Still, I am genuinely curious about which the top few 2 on 2 team are considered to be.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
October 08 2014 22:31 GMT
#31
On October 09 2014 07:25 Cascade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 07:16 TT1 wrote:
On October 09 2014 06:39 odem wrote:
On October 09 2014 06:09 TT1 wrote:
the only problem is that the 2v2 scene doesnt have alot of high lvl 2v2 players/teams, the matches are most likely gonna be extremely 1 sided until the semis/finals

that made me lol. so u are saying there are 2 teams (4 players) which will dominate all the others? i would like to know these teams if u dont mind


semis = 4 teams/8players~, and even then i dont think theres 8 high lvl 2v2 players. i dont know much about the EU scene tho

Still, I am genuinely curious about which the top few 2 on 2 team are considered to be.


. . . i dunno who got invited and whos playing with who, ill make sure to tell you once the teams get posted
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Baz_33
Profile Joined April 2014
Canada32 Posts
October 08 2014 22:43 GMT
#32
Hi everyone. Ive update the tournament post on the front page.
After some feedback, I've decided an open tournament would be better.
Thank you for responses, hope to get some great players involved
odem
Profile Joined August 2011
143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-08 22:52:55
October 08 2014 22:44 GMT
#33
we will yet have to see how stacked the tournament will be. but if u are able to pick all the 4 teams right for the semi finals i would be very surprised. (maybe 2 of 4 teams tho)

on the other hand i dont think its a bad thing if u can be hyped for some favorites who seem to have a good shot for winning the whole thing. at least better than having some random completely unkown players taking it. because having some of the more established players win would rather show that 2v2 actually takes skill and not luck or some random imba strategy
PcH
Profile Joined December 2010
United States83 Posts
October 08 2014 23:25 GMT
#34
Can't wait to watch Protech destroy everyone
twitch.tv/itspch
-Kyo-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1926 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-08 23:50:15
October 08 2014 23:47 GMT
#35
On October 09 2014 04:04 purelegacysc2 wrote:
This tournament is a great idea, and has great intentions but will ultimately be a PTSL dejavu with less attention, no offense, but Baz does not know what he is doing and what to do and has little to none support, just by uninformed community members. You will see maphackers, stream cheaters bad casters and a lot of "1v1 all stars" with no interest in 2v2 or the 2v2 community except competing for a few dollars. Even so, there will be a lot of not very good teams, and very inexperienced teams just like the PTSL. If i am not participating in the event (casting or playing) i will genuinely be shocked if anything impresses me in this tournament.


Judging by your own post elsewhere you're 15 and this pretty much sums up this post. I have no idea who you are or why you think there are very few "good" teams or why you come off so condescending to everyone in this thread. There are some VERY good EU teams, of which have pro 1v1 players on them. There are some very good NA 2v2 teams as well.. such as mystik and power, catz and his partners, imbacoaching and his partners, and many others. Just take a look back at the 2v2 weekly on z33k @_@;; If you don't "expect" a lot then don't support it but to post as if everyone else is going to hack cheat and so on is in very bad taste.

To beasty: The problem with inviting/having random 1v1 players in a "competitive" 2v2 tournament which is supposed to foster creative 2v2 games it's more of "pros" just attempting to "get free" money by playing in an event/part of the community they really couldn't care less about. As another has mentioned, if you're actually playing 2v2 then that's great.

I think Baz is attempting to fund something over a long period of time and help the 2v2 scene grow in a way that is helpful to growing a competitive sub-scene, not just some one-off tournament. At least that's what I got from his OP.

I lol'ed at the protech comment.

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Rickyvalle21
Profile Joined July 2012
United States320 Posts
October 09 2014 01:14 GMT
#36
Im hoping that you wont let baltimore and frutiger play since they bm you every single game you play them. Same for imbacoaching
people say practice is perfect but if nothing is perfect whats the point in practicing?
TtQSwoop
Profile Joined October 2014
2 Posts
October 09 2014 03:57 GMT
#37
sounds interesting , i wouldn't mind donating some extra Cash$ to the prizepool as this gets closer to tournament day. i always liked for the 2v2 scene to get a little bit of action!! pretty pumped for this actually. interested to see what teams will be competing and how well will the competition will do. if this tournament has a good turnout and you run a few more with good turnouts maybe a 2v2 league could come into play. With seasons , exact rules , qualifiers etc etc .
2x2actionFOX
Profile Joined February 2012
France59 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-09 08:33:46
October 09 2014 08:33 GMT
#38
Well as usual some people seems to know everything, I say we shall see.

I totally agree on the fact if we want to help the 2v2 community would have been nice to not let the 1v1 pros who don't know anything about 2v2 to participate.

Kyo is pretty much on top of things here. (whereas I am very surprised by TT1 words :o)
There have been some high level 2v2 Tournament where there were pro 1v1 koreans who tried 2v2 and get wrekted by Lille/Night, Power/Mystic,... so lets move on please.

Please don't mind ProTech/PureLegacy trolls.
Sadly enough ProTech hurts a tons the 2v2 community BUT it would be nice to have him here for his name and level (and also just cauz he doesn't stop repeating he would never come to any tournament, he has done everything and he is the best ; and watching him make a fool of himself is always nice).
IMHO, On the other side, yes you should def not allow bm kids such as baltiwhore and frutinoob. Not because I might loose to them, because once again they are bad for the community, and THIS tournament has just 1 goal have fun and grow the 2v2 scene.

FOXDaRa

Edit : typo
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
October 09 2014 09:06 GMT
#39
While I really don't support BM, I feel the competition loses the competitive integrity if you start shutting people out because you didn't like what they said last time you played.

Known cheaters is a different matter entirely, or if you set up rules for the tournament (no insults on stream, etc) and they are broken. But disqualifying someone from the tournament for things he did before the tournament and within the rules, that seems strange.

If you don't want BM in the tournament, then set up rules against it, and enforce them. But otherwise it'll be dangerously close to inviting people that you are on friendly terms with, which ofc isn't good for anyone.
2x2actionFOX
Profile Joined February 2012
France59 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-09 09:14:10
October 09 2014 09:13 GMT
#40
I kinda agree w/ you Cascade, but :
When one very nice guy decide to share his 300$ for the sake of the 2v2 community, if thats isn't right here that you someway somehow "punish" the BM kids(just by not letting them enter the tourney), where the hell will they be ? Why the hell would they ever stop and being adults and nice people ?

Just like people saying "who cares about stupid hackers anyways", when there is 300$, if you don't start caring here, when will you ?! Since bnet wont stop them, why couldn't we try to do something instead of whining cauz Blizzard doesn't react to maphacker as we would like they do.
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