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Just a reminder to everyone that the clocks go back one hour this weekend!
Overlays just got finished and the name of the tournament is Bring Your Own Ally 2v2 Cup
Name could change for next one. Big thanks to Han for making the graphics and helping with the name.
Registration http://binarybeast.com/xHotS1410124
When: One day tournament, to be held on November 2nd ( Sunday) Tournament will start at 10 AM EST time. Please show up 15 minutes early.
Where: All tournament games will take place on the NA server. If by chance two EU teams are matched together, they may play on the EU server.
Format: This will be an open tournament. Please sign up at http://binarybeast.com/xHotS1410124
Join Channel TT2v2 on Battle.net. Please remain in channel for the whole tournament.
No barcodes or smurf accounts please
Single Elimination
BO3 until semi finals
BO5 semi finals and finals
Map Pool: Avalanche, Old Country, Crystal Pools, Katherine Square, Isle of Slaughter, Preservation, Resupply Tanker.
Veto System: Each team veto's until one map left, that is starting map. Losers pick.
Casting: Nickyboy http://www.twitch.tv/nickyboy909
Lore
RootChosen http://www.twitch.tv/chosensc2
Sarnox www.twitch.tv/sarnox
French Stream: http://www.twitch.tv/teambloodluststream
Dara abd I may do some observing/casting if needed
Baz twitch.tv/baz_33
Dara twitch.tv/2x2actionfox
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Prize Pool:
1st: 200$
2nd: 80$
3rd/4th: 40$
These are Canadian currencies.
Prize pool is coming completely from donations received on my stream. 80% of all donations since I started streaming ( September ) are going into the prize pool. Any extra costs ( casters etc ) will come from the other 20%.
Rules: -NO stream cheating or hacking.
-Replays must be uploaded to the match page immediately after the match. Bracket will not advance without.
-If you cannot contact your opponent for more than 10mins, contact an admin.
-Breaks between games in a series may not be more than 5mins.
- If a player drops from a game, the game must be recovered from replay to 10 seconds before the drop.
- If a player pauses a game they must state the reason for the interruption and how long it will approximately take. The game can only be resumed by the player that paused the game after they asks their opponent if they are ready.
Donate: Thank you to all donators for helping make this happen
If you would like to donate
Paypal: johnbednis@gmail.com
All donators names will be listed at the end of the tournament.
Hope to see alot of the top 2v2 teams sign up. My contact info is below.
Reddit Thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/2ipj83/top_team_2v2_tournament/
Bnet ID: Baz 1451
Stream: http://www.twitch.tv/baz_33
Email: johnbednis@gmail.com
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Great initiative, and I wish you luck!
Please save vods/replays and post links here after the tournament. I want to see some high level 2on2, but not likely to be able to catch the tournament live. 
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Looks like I'll have to get a team to come and win this. Haven't played 2v2 for a while!
ps: there is only 1 EU team I can think of and they're probably the best active 2v2 team hueh.
edit: what wait? Why would u have the event in the middle of the week? Why not a friday-saturday?
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I'm not sure about the timing, considering its on the middle of the day for EU, anyone with school/a job would not be able to participate.
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Maybe is time to play some sc2, free money is always welcome.
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great idea, 2v2 tourneys is what community needs.
Take a closer look to the mappool and the actual date, so eu and na both will be involved comfortably.
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On October 07 2014 18:26 IeZaeL77 wrote:
Maybe is time to play some sc2, free money is always welcome.
look at the rules duh... no hacking allowed..
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hehe, you should probably add some evidence or you might get warned, though there should be plenty arround
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On October 07 2014 18:24 Meavis wrote:
I'm not sure about the timing, considering its on the middle of the day for EU, anyone with school/a job would not be able to participate.
Yes maybe I should rethink the time. I picked those days because they worked best for me. Maybe I could move the time farther into the afternoon which would be more like 5-7 PM EU time or just change the day completely. Something to think about.
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2v2 tournament yay!!
finally our voices have been heared :D
btw: i wouldn't just blindly pick top of the ladder teams or rt players which forming teams. that would be like just picking the most active players. i would also take winrates, fame, history etc. into consideration.
i also wouldnt mind any known 1v1 pros participating. (at least if they know how to play 2v2 and add a bit to the fame factor; and obviously not some "im 1v1 pro bow down to me" imps)
basically a mixture of top of the ladder AT/RT, medium active but known top 2v2 players, known oldschool 2v2 players forming a team again (only takes a lil practice to revive skill imo), active and known 1v1 pros (if they are interested)
so we have a little of everything and we could see which division is falling apart or wreckin shit up 
(oh and myb a few spots for an open qualifier so some forgotten sc2 heroes have the chance to be revived? o_O well, in general i would say no nick-faking / smurf accounts tho due to transparency of whom is actually participating should be obligatory!)
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wouldnt a date on a weekend be better to ensure a higher viewership and to make sure everyone can play and doesnt have to work?
am sure it will be a great tournament, gl
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I have been wanting to see something like this since PTSL2!
SC2 needs more 2v2 tournaments so badly imo, so many people moving on from 2v2 because no tournaments/incentive 
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Looking for a team mate! ^
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On October 08 2014 08:56 Beastyqt wrote:
Looking for a team mate! ^
Please find one :p, I don't even play 1v1 Terran and I watch your stream lol
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On October 08 2014 08:56 Beastyqt wrote:
Looking for a team mate! ^
Would love to have you
I may be changing the format, I've been getting some feedback from stream viewers maybe its better to have an open tournament. That way its free for anyone to join and hopefully it can attract 2v2 players and top 1v1 players.
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On October 08 2014 09:04 paddyz wrote:Please find one :p, I don't even play 1v1 Terran and I watch your stream lol
Haha I'll do my best! <3
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Sweet, this should be a lot of fun, I hate how 2v2 has been so neglected in sc2.
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Can we pair up beasty with someone from the top of the rt ladder
Also, much love to beasty for the interest!!
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I like Odem's idea to not just focus on skill or ranking and maybe add history, people who help 2v2 community,... and its not only because I could have a chance to play then :D More to avoid people like Ravenz
I think for the 1st event, invitations only is nice.
I think people only interested by 1v1 and money should not be invited, there are tons of opportunities for them.(not talking of beastyqt here, even if imo forming a 2v2 AT team is more work than a random post on a public forum :D)
Unless it is a NA tournament, if its a global one, I think you could change the gateway rule to looser pick.
About the schedule, it seems the best for NA+EU is going something sat/sun 1PM NA time, and so 6-8PM for EU.
Anything else would be extremely late or early for EU.
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It is your tournament, but I would definitely advise against inviting a bunch of random "known" 1v1ers who will just grab a random teammate to hopefully win some money in your tournament. There have been quite a few tournaments like this in the past and usually it ends up with people doing incredibly silly stuff. Sounds like you want some actual competition between 2v2ers who "know what they're doing". CatZ and Drewbie are probably one of the few(only?) 2v2ers who would fit a helpful description and are known for 2v2ing (ofc, the eu team i referenced before as well  ).
Will players in top RT rank be considered at all or only AT? I'm currently wondering if I should only play 2v2 with partner or what so that I can get into this since I assume I won't be given an invite. @_@;;
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We'd love to partecipate, I hope this will be free to join for everyone.
-There'd be more teams so more visibility for the whole event,
- You don't risk to cut some of the 'top teams'
- It takes too much time to get on top of the ladder because of the low activity on the 2v2s scene itself.
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This tournament is a great idea, and has great intentions but will ultimately be a PTSL dejavu with less attention, no offense, but Baz does not know what he is doing and what to do and has little to none support, just by uninformed community members. You will see maphackers, stream cheaters bad casters and a lot of "1v1 all stars" with no interest in 2v2 or the 2v2 community except competing for a few dollars. Even so, there will be a lot of not very good teams, and very inexperienced teams just like the PTSL. If i am not participating in the event (casting or playing) i will genuinely be shocked if anything impresses me in this tournament.
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Best of luck with setting everything up for this. I hope it works out. Would love to see and participate in more 2v2 tourneys.
Edit: regarding all this streamcheating talk, there is a very simple option of putting a delay in the stream. Easy as that.
About maphackers, I don't know. One would have to see if anything curious happened. I wish there was a way to prove you're not maphacking. I'm sick of ppl calling others maphackers because they lost.
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I'm not sure why some people are saying 1v1 players shouldn't compete. Best 2v2 team will win at the end, not the best 1v1 players. Also, how will there be "no good teams"? Where are they? I don't see why someone that's good in the 2v2 games wouldn't play this tournament.
Some pro players do play 2v2's, I have over 800 random wins in team games and I probably play around 100-150 2v2 games each SC2 season.
As far as tournament format goes, invite only in 2v2 (undeveloped community) would be bad idea imo. Either invite 4-8 teams and have 4-8 teams coming from qualifiers or just make it an open bracket.
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the only problem is that the 2v2 scene doesnt have alot of high lvl 2v2 players/teams, the matches are most likely gonna be extremely 1 sided until the semis/finals
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On October 09 2014 06:09 TT1 wrote:
the only problem is that the 2v2 scene doesnt have alot of high lvl 2v2 players/teams, the matches are most likely gonna be extremely 1 sided until the semis/finals
that made me lol. so u are saying there are 2 teams (4 players) which will dominate all the others? i would like to know these teams if u dont mind
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Sounds great! I agree that there should be at least some open spots. There could be a fully open bracket if you don't mind a bunch of one sided matches in the early rounds or just have an open bracket at an earlier date.
I'd love to sign up with Lillekanin as my ally!
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I know that I would be capable of getting top 4 in arranged teams on NA server, but I would get rekt by the majority of top 2v2 teams. So yes, imo it is likely that there will initially be 1 sided stomps.
The latter stages of the tournament should be really interesting though, since there are pretty much no 2v2 tournaments you never really get to see BO3-5-7 series between top teams...sure they bump into each other on ladder a bit but thats not the same.
It would be nice if this worked as an incentive to get the good players back to activly playing 2v2 again, if even just for a few weeks, getting top ranks just doesn't feel like an achievement anymore.
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On October 09 2014 06:39 odem wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2014 06:09 TT1 wrote:
the only problem is that the 2v2 scene doesnt have alot of high lvl 2v2 players/teams, the matches are most likely gonna be extremely 1 sided until the semis/finals that made me lol. so u are saying there are 2 teams (4 players) which will dominate all the others? i would like to know these teams if u dont mind
semis = 4 teams/8players~, and even then i dont think theres 8 high lvl 2v2 players. i dont know much about the EU scene tho
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On October 09 2014 07:16 TT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2014 06:39 odem wrote:On October 09 2014 06:09 TT1 wrote:
the only problem is that the 2v2 scene doesnt have alot of high lvl 2v2 players/teams, the matches are most likely gonna be extremely 1 sided until the semis/finals that made me lol. so u are saying there are 2 teams (4 players) which will dominate all the others? i would like to know these teams if u dont mind semis = 4 teams/8players~, and even then i dont think theres 8 high lvl 2v2 players. i dont know much about the EU scene tho
Still, I am genuinely curious about which the top few 2 on 2 team are considered to be.
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On October 09 2014 07:25 Cascade wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2014 07:16 TT1 wrote:On October 09 2014 06:39 odem wrote:On October 09 2014 06:09 TT1 wrote:
the only problem is that the 2v2 scene doesnt have alot of high lvl 2v2 players/teams, the matches are most likely gonna be extremely 1 sided until the semis/finals that made me lol. so u are saying there are 2 teams (4 players) which will dominate all the others? i would like to know these teams if u dont mind semis = 4 teams/8players~, and even then i dont think theres 8 high lvl 2v2 players. i dont know much about the EU scene tho Still, I am genuinely curious about which the top few 2 on 2 team are considered to be.
. . . i dunno who got invited and whos playing with who, ill make sure to tell you once the teams get posted
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Hi everyone. Ive update the tournament post on the front page.
After some feedback, I've decided an open tournament would be better.
Thank you for responses, hope to get some great players involved
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we will yet have to see how stacked the tournament will be. but if u are able to pick all the 4 teams right for the semi finals i would be very surprised. (maybe 2 of 4 teams tho)
on the other hand i dont think its a bad thing if u can be hyped for some favorites who seem to have a good shot for winning the whole thing. at least better than having some random completely unkown players taking it. because having some of the more established players win would rather show that 2v2 actually takes skill and not luck or some random imba strategy
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Can't wait to watch Protech destroy everyone
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On October 09 2014 04:04 purelegacysc2 wrote:
This tournament is a great idea, and has great intentions but will ultimately be a PTSL dejavu with less attention, no offense, but Baz does not know what he is doing and what to do and has little to none support, just by uninformed community members. You will see maphackers, stream cheaters bad casters and a lot of "1v1 all stars" with no interest in 2v2 or the 2v2 community except competing for a few dollars. Even so, there will be a lot of not very good teams, and very inexperienced teams just like the PTSL. If i am not participating in the event (casting or playing) i will genuinely be shocked if anything impresses me in this tournament.
Judging by your own post elsewhere you're 15 and this pretty much sums up this post. I have no idea who you are or why you think there are very few "good" teams or why you come off so condescending to everyone in this thread. There are some VERY good EU teams, of which have pro 1v1 players on them. There are some very good NA 2v2 teams as well.. such as mystik and power, catz and his partners, imbacoaching and his partners, and many others. Just take a look back at the 2v2 weekly on z33k @_@;; If you don't "expect" a lot then don't support it but to post as if everyone else is going to hack cheat and so on is in very bad taste.
To beasty: The problem with inviting/having random 1v1 players in a "competitive" 2v2 tournament which is supposed to foster creative 2v2 games it's more of "pros" just attempting to "get free" money by playing in an event/part of the community they really couldn't care less about. As another has mentioned, if you're actually playing 2v2 then that's great.
I think Baz is attempting to fund something over a long period of time and help the 2v2 scene grow in a way that is helpful to growing a competitive sub-scene, not just some one-off tournament. At least that's what I got from his OP.
I lol'ed at the protech comment.
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Im hoping that you wont let baltimore and frutiger play since they bm you every single game you play them. Same for imbacoaching
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sounds interesting , i wouldn't mind donating some extra Cash$ to the prizepool as this gets closer to tournament day. i always liked for the 2v2 scene to get a little bit of action!! pretty pumped for this actually. interested to see what teams will be competing and how well will the competition will do. if this tournament has a good turnout and you run a few more with good turnouts maybe a 2v2 league could come into play. With seasons , exact rules , qualifiers etc etc .
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Well as usual some people seems to know everything, I say we shall see.
I totally agree on the fact if we want to help the 2v2 community would have been nice to not let the 1v1 pros who don't know anything about 2v2 to participate.
Kyo is pretty much on top of things here. (whereas I am very surprised by TT1 words :o)
There have been some high level 2v2 Tournament where there were pro 1v1 koreans who tried 2v2 and get wrekted by Lille/Night, Power/Mystic,... so lets move on please.
Please don't mind ProTech/PureLegacy trolls.
Sadly enough ProTech hurts a tons the 2v2 community BUT it would be nice to have him here for his name and level (and also just cauz he doesn't stop repeating he would never come to any tournament, he has done everything and he is the best ; and watching him make a fool of himself is always nice).
IMHO, On the other side, yes you should def not allow bm kids such as baltiwhore and frutinoob. Not because I might loose to them, because once again they are bad for the community, and THIS tournament has just 1 goal have fun and grow the 2v2 scene.
FOXDaRa
Edit : typo
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While I really don't support BM, I feel the competition loses the competitive integrity if you start shutting people out because you didn't like what they said last time you played.
Known cheaters is a different matter entirely, or if you set up rules for the tournament (no insults on stream, etc) and they are broken. But disqualifying someone from the tournament for things he did before the tournament and within the rules, that seems strange.
If you don't want BM in the tournament, then set up rules against it, and enforce them. But otherwise it'll be dangerously close to inviting people that you are on friendly terms with, which ofc isn't good for anyone.
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I kinda agree w/ you Cascade, but :
When one very nice guy decide to share his 300$ for the sake of the 2v2 community, if thats isn't right here that you someway somehow "punish" the BM kids(just by not letting them enter the tourney), where the hell will they be ? Why the hell would they ever stop and being adults and nice people ?
Just like people saying "who cares about stupid hackers anyways", when there is 300$, if you don't start caring here, when will you ?! Since bnet wont stop them, why couldn't we try to do something instead of whining cauz Blizzard doesn't react to maphacker as we would like they do.
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Yea I agree that Baz shouldnt let high level 1v1 players play to an extent. Dont let it be a Demios Inivitation where Hendralisk and Masa thrashed through everyone including Night and Guitarcheese. Make it so they have to be arranged team in a placed league with a set amount of games or wins
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To be honest, if what u say is true and 1v1 pros make a team that will dominate the 2v2 only teams then how is that a bad thing?
To me the competition between 1v1 pros and top 2v2 players is very interesting because they both have different advantages approaching which should either even out or still let one side reign supreme.
If the 2v2 players are not good enough to put their training in 2v2 into an advantage than thats not the fault of any 1v1 player who comes to this tournament to have fun or maybe some little money.
Most importantly ->
As beasty alrdy said: he played alot of 2v2 and so did several "1v1 players". U CANT distinguish between players who played only 1v1 or still "enough 2v2" to be granted ur guys consent being able to play this tournament. So the whole discussion about that makes completely no sense and is also very weird. Why do i even have to explain this to u lol.
Same thing for the bm topic. Why would baz want to play moral police and enforce friendly behavior in the whole 2v2 scene with his tournament?
There is NO possible way to >draw the line< on who has the right moral standards and who might not. It would be just baz subjective decisions which of course he would have the right do make as the organizer. But as i know him thats no decisions he wants to make. Since again: its impossible to draw the line here.
If he values behavior then he can set the rules accordingly (like no insults). But also here its hard to draw the line if u interpret bm as everything that isnt nice (like ironic answers or smiley faces when winning).
Personally i love when ppl in a game write more than glhf ggwp. Thats just robotic. Grant the ppl their own personality and at least a little freedom to express whatever they want to say. As long as it isnt too out of the line it adds to the competitive atmosphere and also for the viewer experience.
Even if u have another opinion about this its still not easy to draw the line and imo too much to ask of someone to decide these kind of things.
PS: sry dara, i know ur a cool guy, even if u play protoss :D (j/k) it just so happens i cant support ur opinions in this case since i think doing these things would either go too far or would be impossible to do in a consequent and fair (objective) way
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GL With tournament <3
On October 09 2014 07:31 TT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2014 07:25 Cascade wrote:On October 09 2014 07:16 TT1 wrote:On October 09 2014 06:39 odem wrote:On October 09 2014 06:09 TT1 wrote:
the only problem is that the 2v2 scene doesnt have alot of high lvl 2v2 players/teams, the matches are most likely gonna be extremely 1 sided until the semis/finals that made me lol. so u are saying there are 2 teams (4 players) which will dominate all the others? i would like to know these teams if u dont mind semis = 4 teams/8players~, and even then i dont think theres 8 high lvl 2v2 players. i dont know much about the EU scene tho Still, I am genuinely curious about which the top few 2 on 2 team are considered to be. . . . i dunno who got invited and whos playing with who, ill make sure to tell you once the teams get posted
also, http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/69911-hackers-caught
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+ Show Spoiler +I guess I miss explained my point (probably cauz of my bad english) cauz I only understood your post was an answer for me at the last line. For example "To be honest, if what u say is true and 1v1 pros make a team that will dominate the 2v2 only teams then how is that a bad thing?" I said the exact opposite, I said 1v1 pros would have no chance, so either you missread or my english skillz are the same then a 3 y old french kid.
"There have been some high level 2v2 Tournament where there were pro 1v1 koreans who tried 2v2 and get wrekted by Lille/Night, Power/Mystic,... so lets move on please"
I am not sure I should repeat myself, but what I mean about 1v1 player vs 2v2 players is that I want the stream, tournament,... to promote the 2v2 scene, not the 1v1 scene, so because we CAN NOT cast/stream all games, and because it MEANT to be LIMITED INVITATIONS, then yes I think 1v1 ONLY players shouldn't be invite.
Now Baz changed his mind, and now its open to everyone so guess what ? Its open to everyone so yes lets stop that talk, again.
Now there are a couple of decent players who everyone knows are bm kids. I don't see any good in letting them do that in 'our' promotion of the 2v2 scene.
So, if you want let these guys be promoted and show tons of bms (cauz lets be honest, thats what viewers want at the end of the day : idras, protechs, naniwas, avilos, etc etc etc) well Odem, then nothing will change. Isn't it the only goal of this whole tour thing ?
I won't write any more word about that, cauz all theses kids want is attention, and I am already giving them way to much.
PS1 : Don't excuse yourself, you have the right to disagree w/ me, we are just arguing between adults, it changes from twitch.
PS2 : any ProTech's mod shouldn't be allowed in this conversation :D (j/k)
Edit : spelling
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Yo, cant wait to watch this tourney OT: In my humble opinion Protech probably done more for the 2v2 scene than anybody ever will by streaming 2v2 full time, he surely got me into it. Really hope the stubborn elephant brain Protech will get involved on this tho.
I think an open tournament is the way to go. Spreading out and get some crowd favourites (1v1 Pros) in there can only be good for the exposure and hopefully the top 2v2 teams can rekt the 1v1 pros.
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Well, to make sure the 2v2 scene will reign supreme i could offer the scared folks that the winners of this tournament have to face frank & me as some kind of final end boss level. With our combined >100 apm (strategic high end clicks only) power this would eventually be the last stop of any 1v1 pros reaching too far
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Heck yeah Baz! I was just thinking " we need some 2's tournaments, check your pm"
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On October 10 2014 00:43 SatedSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2014 18:19 Rickyvalle21 wrote:
Yea I agree that Baz shouldnt let high level 1v1 players play to an extent. Dont let it be a Demios Inivitation where Hendralisk and Masa thrashed through everyone including Night and Guitarcheese. Make it so they have to be arranged team in a placed league with a set amount of games or wins If dedicated 2v2 players aren't good enough at 2v2 to beat 1v1 players who don't play 2v2 in a 2v2 then they don't deserve to win any money...
I agree.
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Would love to participate but likely won't be available all day for it. Love me some 2v2's!
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good discussion
i see your side Dara but I dont have much of a problem with people doing a little trash talk ( there is a line ofcourse )
I agree with most of what Odem said and think for my first time doing this an open tournament is just easier to manage. I hope at the very least 1v1 players wanting to play in this tournament will play on the 2v2 ladder for practice.
People please start signing up! I've only got two teams so far
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On October 10 2014 00:43 SatedSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2014 18:19 Rickyvalle21 wrote:
Yea I agree that Baz shouldnt let high level 1v1 players play to an extent. Dont let it be a Demios Inivitation where Hendralisk and Masa thrashed through everyone including Night and Guitarcheese. Make it so they have to be arranged team in a placed league with a set amount of games or wins If dedicated 2v2 players aren't good enough at 2v2 to beat 1v1 players who don't play 2v2 in a 2v2 then they don't deserve to win any money...
Except 1v1 pro players play full time and as of right now 2v2 players just play because they enjoy it more, unless your name is protech and you somehow manage to persuade everyone you're also really good at 1v1.
Ill be signing up with mvpgalaxy as soon as we think of a team name :D
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Updated the tournament again with new time and a place to register your team.
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btw, for the step deciding on how to put the teams into the brackets:
since it doesnt seem to be possible to do the most fair option (a group stage) cause it would take too much time (myb even a 2nd day). it would maybe be possible to let the viewers (baz stream) vote on which teams they think are the best ( http://strawpoll.me/ ftw) and accordingly put the highest anticipated teams as far away in the ko-system tree as possible.
ofc this would be to avoid that the most anticipated teams would knock each other out in the early rounds
i think it also makes the viewing and casting experience more interesting if there are favorites and underdogs. especially for viewers who dont have the overview over all the participating teams, they could get a glimpse on who could be teams to watch.
--> personally i really like guessing first and watching the actual results happen. especially in this kind of tournament, where u dont have a recent sample size and can base ur guess on very different things like current or former team performance, individual player skills (considering 1v1 performance), race combinations, player combinations (in terms of teamplay), etc.
i also wouldnt mind to put that vote up a few days (myb even a week?) before the starting day. i'd say every voter gets 4 votes (for the expected semifinalists) and according to the outcome the teams will be put in the system tree accordingly.
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Best would be if every viewer could rank the participants.
A quick google finds that for example http://www.polljunkie.com/ seems to do this.
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On October 10 2014 19:36 Cascade wrote:Best would be if every viewer could rank the participants. A quick google finds that for example http://www.polljunkie.com/ seems to do this.
i wouldnt like to rank every single participator because its 1) too much work (for the average viewer) + 2) actually noone will know every team (with luck more than 50% but in average rather less) and so it wouldnt even be possible to calculate for every single team individually
so we could have like these two options:
http://www.polljunkie.com/poll/acankw/who-wins-multiple-choice
http://www.polljunkie.com/poll/mcjcet/who-wins
i'd prefer the multiple choice (like strawpoll) one with a variable number of possible answers. (to bad it cannot be limited to like 4 answers and only one would not be enough in this case imo)
so basically like this --> http://strawpoll.me/2746714
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What you are asking is pretty much seeding.
I guess we could do it easily (but not accurately for the 1st event obv) on the 2nd event, based on 1st one results.
I do like the random factor, not sure we need that for the first time. 'KISS', better focus on avoiding hackers...
And so why not polls for Hackers :
http://strawpoll.me/2746888
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On October 10 2014 19:27 odem wrote:btw, for the step deciding on how to put the teams into the brackets: since it doesnt seem to be possible to do the most fair option (a group stage) cause it would take too much time (myb even a 2nd day). it would maybe be possible to let the viewers (baz stream) vote on which teams they think are the best ( http://strawpoll.me/ ftw) and accordingly put the highest anticipated teams as far away in the ko-system tree as possible. ofc this would be to avoid that the most anticipated teams would knock each other out in the early rounds i think it also makes the viewing and casting experience more interesting if there are favorites and underdogs. especially for viewers who dont have the overview over all the participating teams, they could get a glimpse on who could be teams to watch. --> personally i really like guessing first and watching the actual results happen. especially in this kind of tournament, where u dont have a recent sample size and can base ur guess on very different things like current or former team performance, individual player skills (considering 1v1 performance), race combinations, player combinations (in terms of teamplay), etc. i also wouldnt mind to put that vote up a few days (myb even a week?) before the starting day. i'd say every voter gets 4 votes (for the expected semifinalists) and according to the outcome the teams will be put in the system tree accordingly. o/
I like the idea Odem and maybe could do something like this. I still have no idea how many teams will actually sign up for this. So maybe once we get closer to the Nov 2nd date I can decide if this if feasible.
To what Actionfox said maybe for the next tournament I could have teams who finished high seeded.
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First and all THANKS Bazed Baz to give an opportunity to the 2V2 scene to grow and have some exposure ! That's really rare and a pleasure that you invest your own time and money into this ! I'll definitly try to watch this and if my mate and I have time, compete too !
On October 09 2014 17:33 2x2actionFOX wrote:
IMHO, On the other side, yes you should def not allow bm kids such as baltiwhore and frutinoob. Not because I might loose to them, because once again they are bad for the community, and THIS tournament has just 1 goal have fun and grow the 2v2 scene.
FOXDaRa
Hey buddy, by calling these players these names, don't you think u're being as BM as them ? Also, as u pointed out later, you probably give them attention they don't need !
With love, from a guy who met you sometimes on 2's ladder ;-)
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It's kinda weird... Ima explain a bit my vision of things, since everyone love reopen 'closed topics' :
some trashtalk here and there isn't BM.
BM is when you can not show a minimum of education and respect.
When I get insulted on ladder, I block the guy and never see it again, its ok, I can live w/ that.
When the guy harass you on bnet, irc, skype, mails, TL,... for days and weeks w/o reason, resume gently asked pause, talk shit on your back on public events/streams/... this is what I call BM.
+ Show Spoiler +
BM is for example what happened first time I met these kids on ladder :
- DaRa : PP
DaRa paused the game
(my cat just puked on me)
Frutinoob resumed the game
- Frutinoob : Ask before pausing fucking noob
- DaRa : well I am sorry but PP means Pause Please, so please wait 30sec
DaRa paused the game
Frutinoob resumed the game.
- DaRa : ffs can't you wait 20sec
- Baltiwhore : stfu trash
So yeah, when you met some guys from the first time in these conditions and get BMed for absolutely no reason. Yeah I think I can call them that way right ? If you disagree, and still think it is your business please PM me.
Now please lets stop OT stuff, I explained my point, if Baz or you guys disagree, I am not gonna cry and I'll survive.
Lets move on please.
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Nice, if anyone needs a 2v2 partner hitme up
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Just to be sure. It changed to open tournament meaning anyone can play and we dont have to get top4 right?
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On October 12 2014 05:55 Veriol wrote:
Just to be sure. It changed to open tournament meaning anyone can play and we dont have to get top4 right?
Yup
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Well, it may be too late now. But as i alrdy said it would be nice if the participating teams are either giving a link to their battle net profile to baz (nvm if they do that anyway) or post them openly on their team page (on challonge).
I would also go further than declining only barcodes. I'd also say smurf accounts are not allowed. (Even if its hard to draw the line here of course but it in some cases it may be clear.) It's just that name faking in general (or lets say anonymity) is something that doesnt benefit a tournament.
Its kinda hard to follow all the weird nicks and having to find out whos actually who as a viewer (because if u dont know whos who its kinda boring to watch random names play each other). Plus if players dont act according to rules they should at least not be able to hide behind a fake nick. Thats all im trying to say. If thats easily to enforce, i cant say
(Since ofc ppl can just say they are changing their nick like underwear. But they at least should have a main battle net ID/account i guess.)
I just want to give attention to that. This tournament doesnt have to be perfect in all terms, so nevermind if its too much trouble or u watch what happens and consider it myb for the next one.
Actually im afraid i dont even know how this thing is handled in other (non top tier) tournaments.
Since in bigger tournaments the anonymity isnt an issue because all players are known or even have their own liquipedia page (like in PTSL or bigger 1v1 events).
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On October 12 2014 20:17 odem wrote:
Well, it may be too late now. But as i alrdy said it would be nice if the participating teams are either giving a link to their battle net profile to baz (nvm if they do that anyway) or post them openly on their team page (on challonge).
I would also go further than declining only barcodes. I'd also say smurf accounts are not allowed. (Even if its hard to draw the line here of course but it in some cases it may be clear.) It's just that name faking in general (or lets say anonymity) is something that doesnt benefit a tournament.
Agreed !
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On October 12 2014 20:41 2x2actionFOX wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2014 20:17 odem wrote:
Well, it may be too late now. But as i alrdy said it would be nice if the participating teams are either giving a link to their battle net profile to baz (nvm if they do that anyway) or post them openly on their team page (on challonge).
I would also go further than declining only barcodes. I'd also say smurf accounts are not allowed. (Even if its hard to draw the line here of course but it in some cases it may be clear.) It's just that name faking in general (or lets say anonymity) is something that doesnt benefit a tournament.
Agreed !
Yes, sounds very reasonable. One way to enforce it would be to ask for all akas at start of tournament, and saying that the price money will not be paid if it turns out that they were hiding.
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On October 12 2014 21:53 Cascade wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2014 20:41 2x2actionFOX wrote:On October 12 2014 20:17 odem wrote:
Well, it may be too late now. But as i alrdy said it would be nice if the participating teams are either giving a link to their battle net profile to baz (nvm if they do that anyway) or post them openly on their team page (on challonge).
I would also go further than declining only barcodes. I'd also say smurf accounts are not allowed. (Even if its hard to draw the line here of course but it in some cases it may be clear.) It's just that name faking in general (or lets say anonymity) is something that doesnt benefit a tournament.
Agreed ! Yes, sounds very reasonable. One way to enforce it would be to ask for all akas at start of tournament, and saying that the price money will not be paid if it turns out that they were hiding.
More good points, how hard would this be to enforce? I could ask all I want but people can just lie and then more time needs to be spent investigating each player. I am going to go through all the teams probably a week before tournament and review some teams that have been accused of hacking/cheating.
I'm not crazy about this challenge site. No link bnet accounts, only one person needs to sign up and I don't know how to set a closing date on registrations. Don't know if I'll use this site for the next tourney.
Thanks for continue feedback, hoping to get more than 19 teams signed up. Come join people, you don't need to win tournament to get paid
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I alrdy went through all teams by now and recognize like 30-40% of the names. Maybe thats because not all of them are/were on top of the ladder which is totally ok. But it could also be that u dont recognize names aswell (because you dont know them or they may be made up). Then u cant make the decision if hacker or whatever. But i dont mind, its ur tournament and we shall see
For me personally its just interesting if it would be possible to check the players main battle net ID's and see 1) of which caliber they are and 2) who they may actually be. Same for the possible casters who should be interested in who the players actually are they are casting and same for the viewers who want to know whom they are watching.
Of course u cant force everyone to do that. But expecting transparency (and at least the majority of ppl doing so) could drive possible (general rule) violators into a smaller corner and would make for a better viewer experience imo
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I've updated main page with new info.
Biggest update is that the registration site has changed. To all the teams that had already signed up on the challenge site, please go and re register on binary beast. Sorry for this change.
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On October 13 2014 02:36 Baz_33 wrote:
I've updated main page with new info.
Biggest update is that the registration site has changed. To all the teams that had already signed up on the challenge site, please go and re register on binary beast. Sorry for this change.
I just checked. Could it be that its not possible to see the individual players signed up at a team on binary beast? Maybe i just yet didnt found out how tho^^
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Is there a reason why old country is the only map from the current ladder pool thats not in the tourney?
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Is it ok if just one of us signs up for the team on binarybeast?
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remove crooked maw and preservation LE from the map pool and add Graystone Ravine and Old Country... nobody wants to play crooked maw or preservation..... cmon Baz :p
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I'd rather not play old country, that map is so hard to scout whats going on.
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On October 13 2014 07:10 luckybamboo wrote:
Is there a reason why old country is the only map from the current ladder pool thats not in the tourney?
Terrible Map :p
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On October 13 2014 07:10 luckybamboo wrote:
Is there a reason why old country is the only map from the current ladder pool thats not in the tourney?
Had to cut one map to make the veto system work, I'm personally not a huge fan of that map so its been cut
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On October 13 2014 23:39 Baz_33 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2014 07:10 luckybamboo wrote:
Is there a reason why old country is the only map from the current ladder pool thats not in the tourney? Had to cut one map to make the veto system work, I'm personally not a huge fan of that map so its been cut
Agreed
When does signin close ? Might enter!
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On October 13 2014 23:43 LeeJohnDong wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2014 23:39 Baz_33 wrote:On October 13 2014 07:10 luckybamboo wrote:
Is there a reason why old country is the only map from the current ladder pool thats not in the tourney? Had to cut one map to make the veto system work, I'm personally not a huge fan of that map so its been cut Agreed When does signin close ? Might enter!
Not sure how to set close date on binary beast, so as of right now its open until the day of the tournament.
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On October 13 2014 23:54 Baz_33 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2014 23:43 LeeJohnDong wrote:On October 13 2014 23:39 Baz_33 wrote:On October 13 2014 07:10 luckybamboo wrote:
Is there a reason why old country is the only map from the current ladder pool thats not in the tourney? Had to cut one map to make the veto system work, I'm personally not a huge fan of that map so its been cut Agreed When does signin close ? Might enter! Not sure how to set close date on binary beast, so as of right now its open until the day of the tournament.
Great thanks.
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ah i see, that makes sense... you need an uneven number of maps....
a few thoughts:
have you given any thought to the map vetoing system not being loser picks? i know its the been the vetoing system of choice in past 2v2 tournaments, but imo in some circumstances it leads to teams being gifted free wins (e.g. when GSL was still loser picks during the infestor broodlord era and every zerg picking daybreak after a loss or in 2v2 games TZ picking reclamation in the most recent 2v2 tournaments). that is why most tournaments have adopted a different vetoing system so the worst maps for a player/team can be excluded. it just leads to higher quality games.
if the system stays with loser picks, are teams allowed to change races between maps? most tournaments specified rules on this.
with the choice of the map pool have you thought about what types of games you want to see and what perhaps will give a new face to 2v2 for outsiders? I think a big stigma that 2v2 has is that its "only hellion/ling" or "reaper/ling" or "double proxies" or "marauder ling" and of course it is far more than that, but perhaps it would be good to select a map pool that presents the most interesting games to spectators (mostly arguing against crooked maw here i guess if the vetoing system stays loser picks)
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crooked maw is impossible to wall in time (i have no idea which moron had the idea to make the ramp that wide on such a small rush distance)
maybe there are ways to hold early ling pressure or w/e rushes. but if there are real imba early allin strats (that cant be hold efficiently even while scouted + gm micro) i would take it out of the pool.
on the other hand i dont mind games which develop from holding early allins. can still be funky^^
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I wish craj was around for this..
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On October 14 2014 06:44 luckybamboo wrote:
ah i see, that makes sense... you need an uneven number of maps....
a few thoughts:
have you given any thought to the map vetoing system not being loser picks? i know its the been the vetoing system of choice in past 2v2 tournaments, but imo in some circumstances it leads to teams being gifted free wins (e.g. when GSL was still loser picks during the infestor broodlord era and every zerg picking daybreak after a loss or in 2v2 games TZ picking reclamation in the most recent 2v2 tournaments). that is why most tournaments have adopted a different vetoing system so the worst maps for a player/team can be excluded. it just leads to higher quality games.
if the system stays with loser picks, are teams allowed to change races between maps? most tournaments specified rules on this.
with the choice of the map pool have you thought about what types of games you want to see and what perhaps will give a new face to 2v2 for outsiders? I think a big stigma that 2v2 has is that its "only hellion/ling" or "reaper/ling" or "double proxies" or "marauder ling" and of course it is far more than that, but perhaps it would be good to select a map pool that presents the most interesting games to spectators (mostly arguing against crooked maw here i guess if the vetoing system stays loser picks)
So you suggest adding 2 maps to the pool, and then let each team remove a map from the pool (possibly excluding the starting map), and then losers pick?
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On October 14 2014 11:53 Cascade wrote:
So you suggest adding 2 maps to the pool, and then let each team remove a map from the pool (possibly excluding the starting map), and then losers pick?
I would suggest this format (quoted from the WCS player handbook):
For all Best of 3 Games Matches, Player A must veto one Map first, then Player B must veto two
Maps, and then Player A must veto one more Map. The vetoed Maps will not
be played in the Match. Player B must choose the Game 1 Map and then Player A must choose the Game 2 Map.
The Game 3 Map will be the Map that hasn’t been chosen or vetoed.
For all Best of 5 Games Matches, Player A must veto one Map first and then Player
B must veto one Map. The vetoed Maps won’t be played in the Match. Next, the Players must alternate
choosing each Game’s Map, starting with Player A choosing the Game 1 Map. The Game 5 Map
will be the Map that hasn’t been vetoed or chosen for Games 1 - 4.
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Dont like playing 2v2 but I do like watching it. Going to follow this if I can time the cast.
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if new maps are needed I could jump out of retirement for a moment and make something better than what blizzard throws in the map pool.
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On October 14 2014 19:09 Meavis wrote:
if new maps are needed I could jump out of retirement for a moment and make something better than what blizzard throws in the map pool.
That alone would be a great outcome of this tournament!
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On October 14 2014 19:09 Meavis wrote:
if new maps are needed I could jump out of retirement for a moment and make something better than what blizzard throws in the map pool.
sounds epic :D
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When will the registered teams/ a bracket be revealed? It'd be interesting to see if any notable players signed up for this
Best of luck with running the tournament, Baz!
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On October 14 2014 07:51 RaNgeD wrote:
I wish craj was around for this..
aw yeah, i love how so many oldschool players show up here ^^
i think it should be easy for someone like u to find a decent ally since ppl could be lucky to have u on their team. in case they are not active atm just play some rt games until u reach max mmr. there will be enough ppl u can meet on ladder looking for a good ally i guess
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On October 14 2014 20:16 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:When will the registered teams/ a bracket be revealed? It'd be interesting to see if any notable players signed up for this Best of luck with running the tournament, Baz!
u can see the participants here (momentarily u only see the one who registered and not the other player on the team)
http://binarybeast.com/xHotS1410124#participants
i dont know if its possible to see different players under a team name. (binarybeast could be rather constructed for 1v1?^^)
however we maybe can make a list with who is on which team, so ppl can look it up somewhere
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I'm going to stick with losers pick veto system for this one. I've removed Crooked Maw, added Old Country in.
I assumed binary beast required two people to sign up to make a team, guess not...I will contact each team and make a full player list.
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On October 14 2014 20:33 odem wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2014 20:16 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:When will the registered teams/ a bracket be revealed? It'd be interesting to see if any notable players signed up for this Best of luck with running the tournament, Baz! u can see the participants here (momentarily u only see the one who registered and not the other player on the team) http://binarybeast.com/xHotS1410124#participantsi dont know if its possible to see different players under a team name. (binarybeast could be rather constructed for 1v1?^^) however we maybe can make a list with who is on which team, so ppl can look it up somewhere
Got it, thanks
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ok guys here i just did some math:
bo3: top64, top32, top16, top8 --> 4*3 = 12
bo5: semis, finals --> 2 * 5 = 10
so extended case scenario is like 22 games on one day. aww
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Not sure if this has been answered or not, are there any restrictions on team compositions? In the past 2v2 tournaments I've played in the only way to double race (ie Z/Z) was to play X/R and the random player lands on the same race as their partner. Is that going to be the case here, or are we allowed to queue up as a double race team?
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On October 18 2014 05:22 Finchy711 wrote:
Not sure if this has been answered or not, are there any restrictions on team compositions? In the past 2v2 tournaments I've played in the only way to double race (ie Z/Z) was to play X/R and the random player lands on the same race as their partner. Is that going to be the case here, or are we allowed to queue up as a double race team?
hmm I haven't put much thought into this. I'm gonna leave it open for this one and let people choose whichever race they want. See how it goes and adjust for the next one in December.
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For maps this tournament, I'm gonna stick with the ladder maps. For the next one I plan in December I'll definitely be considering adding some community made maps to make it more interesting.
All participants are permitted to stream their own games during the tournament.
Still looking for casters for a main stream. If anyone is interested please email me with a VOD of your casting.
Johnbednis@gmail.com
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You should make a more shameless plea for donations.
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On October 21 2014 11:25 Tapioca Weasel wrote:
You should make a more shameless plea for donations.
Any ideas?
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Is there anything we (the players) need to do on our end to confirm after we register?
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So basicly to take a part I need to register only alone without my mate at binarybeast?
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On October 25 2014 01:03 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
So basicly to take a part I need to register only alone without my mate at binarybeast?
Yes just one person registered will do. I will confirm everyone the day of the tournament and remove teams that have signed up twice or ones that don't show up. I was going to make a master list of teams but it's so hard to catch people online that I've given up on that.
Next tournament I will either use a different bracket site or do all the sign ups through email. Neither binary beast or challonge had a way to sign up two players to one team. Hopefully this doesn't turn into a clusterfuck the day of the tournament, learning as I go and will make improvements for the next one.
Sometime in the next few days I will have the casters finalized. Its probably going to be few different streams and as stated before all players are welcome to stream.
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Fuck I wish Cubert and Aristeo were still active
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Two new big signups, Axiom Heart and Ryung!
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MyuNgSiK will play with the last Prime member, ZounPrime.
As PT !
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gogo Heart and Ryung :D:D
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Nice to see another 2v2 tournament since the Shoutcraft matches stopped.
I hope this gets some hype so more get organised in the future.
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This made me laugh way too much
+ Show Spoiler +<> Dream RT Team <> (will never happen)
PureLegacy & PracticeX
The above literally visit my stream when I'm playing 2v2 at least once a day and BM for like 10 minutes in chat. You can really tell they're 16.
Apparently MVPGalaxy and I weren't cool enough for that list ;(
I wanted to win, but ryung and heart are gonna be hard @_@
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hehe,
didnt find u guys on the binarybeast signup list but ofc u deserve to be mentioned
PS: updated with estimated race combinations -_-
http://hastebin.com/udoruholos.xml
if u take other races just be like 'surprise mfker'!
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I'm really happy things are going so well!
Please record videos and/or replays, as I probably will not be able to catch you live, but I really want to see this!!!
thanks, good luck and ggs to everyone!
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Power and Mystik might play seperately since power has been playing with POlar alot this season and mystik has been playing alot with sKy but Im not 100% sure.
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Still trying to find a caster, its coming down to the wire. Didn't think it would be this difficult, I don't have many contacts and don't know of that many low tier casters. Hopefully can get thread updated sometime today.
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On October 31 2014 23:25 Baz_33 wrote:
Still trying to find a caster, its coming down to the wire. Didn't think it would be this difficult, I don't have many contacts and don't know of that many low tier casters. Hopefully can get thread updated sometime today.
Try asking https://twitter.com/Madals91
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As much as people might despise this, WinterSC is the excellent choice for casting. He would be execellent because for 1, he will gadly do it for free and 2, you can use him to further expose your stream and the 2v2 scene for the thousands of noobies that watch him(and no he doesn't veiwer bot it has been confirmed by twitch staff).
Exposing your stream-> to more people watching-> more people donating for next tournament There will also be more lower league players interested in playing the next tournament but that is great for the growth of 2v2 scene.
Its a win-win if you ask me.
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There will be alot of games running simultaneously on the tournament (otherwise it would logically take a week), so there are opportunitys for various casters i would say?
If winter would like to do some casting why not. Did he say so?
I think in the top8 the games will ultimately get pretty stacked so having 4 different casters from beginning until then would be awesome. (i think dara could help out aswell if he got eliminated until then haha :D)
And for the semis/ finals baz can decide on the spot who will cast them.
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ah well, for the ppl who dont like to click links here some of the notable team ups
~ Notable Teams on Baz 2v2 Tourney Nov 2nd 2014 ~
> known team ups <
Night / Lillekanin (TZ)
Power / Mystik (TZ)
Kyo / MvPGalaxy (PZ)
Narcotic / Nogard (TZ)
> expected team ups <
Beastyqt / Morrow (TZ)
MyuNgSiK / Zoun (PT)
Armani / eMotion (PZ)
RuFF / Noregret (TZ)
Ryung / Heart (TT?)
unknown yet:
Fenner + x
<2v2 teams with a gm in lineup>
DeathMask / Mef1STo (PP?)
FlowerBunny / Hummflux (TT?)
Ansopedi / CyKLanD (TZ)
+ alot more
<notable AT teams from ladder>
Frutiger / Baltimore (TZ)
Skorpio / MiriNfOu (TT)
DaRa / boYEE (ez PZ)
+ others
92,7% accuracy
misc:
<> epic oldschool "pro" 2v2 Teams <> (who played ladder or tourneys together)
CatZ & Drewbie, Snute & Richy, Select & Optikzero, Stephano & BlinG, StrifeCro & dde, Minigun & Destiny, Lucifron & Vortix, MC & DRG
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only 5 more hours to go!! :D
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This is gonna be good. Hope there will be a lot of people that shows up!
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Let the tournament begin!
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Do we have a list of all the partecipants? There's only 1 member of the team in the list
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I don't see anyone in the chat on bnet? is it possible i'm doing it wrong?
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so... is this just not happening?
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Checkin needed for such tournaments, cause we wasted a lot of time waiting
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nice to get to watch some high level 2v2
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sick game in morrow stream =D
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Is this over already or what...? Where can I find a stream?
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Who's in team myungsik and team hurricane?
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Thx for the cast. Was way better than i expected. SC2 2on2 is still nothing i would play though.
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On November 03 2014 03:08 royalroadweed wrote:
Who's in team myungsik and team hurricane?
MyungsikPrime and ZounPrime
Prime boys in the finals let's win this one ^^!
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I love the storylines behind these finals - Korea vs Europe, 1v1 skillz vs 2v2 skillz, a team with a protoss vs a team without a protoss. More people should really be watching this!
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<> now running: FINALS [bo5] game 3 <> Night (Z) & Lillekanin (T) 1 : 1 MyuNgSik (P) & Zoun (T) <>
casted on http://www.twitch.tv/sarnox
epic games
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On November 03 2014 06:46 Liliputin wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2014 03:08 royalroadweed wrote:
Who's in team myungsik and team hurricane? MyungsikPrime and ZounPrime Prime boys in the finals let's win this one ^^!
Who is Zoun though? Does Prime have an academy that's not listed on liquipedia?
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This Night guy seems like a pretty sick 2v2 person
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Russian Federation30 Posts
Great tourney and awesome final! Tnx Baz for hosting and Nox for casting 8)
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On October 09 2014 06:09 TT1 wrote:
the only problem is that the 2v2 scene doesnt have alot of high lvl 2v2 players/teams, the matches are most likely gonna be extremely 1 sided until the semis/finals
well, ofc u were not lucky with the brackets but still.. getting rekt in the first round after spouting that it should kinda suck to be on the receiving end eh :D
this tournament turned out pretty great and quite high level in the end. so many good games were played today!
the morrow/beasty/rifkin triple cast was awesome! also funny to see them trying hard to find the right tactics. they are really smart but while morrow having no clue at all about 2v2 even beasty was lacking a lil experience in which matchups are favored on which maps. u guys are a cool team tho ^^
sarnox also did really great with constant casting. almost forgot about that guy, hes awesome :D
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Today's tournament was truly refreshing to the Starcraft scene. I can see the potential growth in team matche tournament in the future.
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On November 03 2014 09:06 odem wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2014 06:09 TT1 wrote:
the only problem is that the 2v2 scene doesnt have alot of high lvl 2v2 players/teams, the matches are most likely gonna be extremely 1 sided until the semis/finals well, ofc u were not lucky with the brackets but still.. getting rekt in the first round after spouting that it should kinda suck to be on the receiving end eh :D this tournament turned out pretty great and quite high level in the end. so many good games were played today! the morrow/beasty/rifkin triple cast was awesome! also funny to see them trying hard to find the right tactics. they are really smart but while morrow having no clue at all about 2v2 even beasty was lacking a lil experience in which matchups are favored on which maps. u guys are a cool team tho ^^ sarnox also did really great with constant casting. almost forgot about that guy, hes awesome :D
uhh i dont play sc2 anymore, its been 3 months since i completely stopped playing. i literally decided to play in the tourney 15 mins before it started 8D, just for funsies
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What a great day. Thanks for all the support from everyone. Excited to make the next one better and hopefully do this regularly.
All prizes have been paid out, and I gave the remaining money to a few people that helped with organizing and graphic design.
Would like to hear feedback from people. viewers and players. I know the casting on my channel wasn't great, didn't really plan on doing that. Very happy with how Nox did, I believe he got up to 500+ viewers for the finals which I'm happy with.
I don't know if I will be able to get a replay pack up since I updated most of the bracket with random replays. I will try get some VOD's up but can't guarantee anything.
Lets make the next one bigger and better!
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Here are the results in case anyone missed it
1st Place: Lillekanin and Night 200$
2nd Place: Myungsik.Prime and Zoun.Prime 80$
3rd/4th: Elazer and Pal 40$
3rd/4th: Cykland.NoN and Ansopedi.Non 40$
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On November 03 2014 12:36 Baz_33 wrote:
What a great day. Thanks for all the support from everyone. Excited to make the next one better and hopefully do this regularly.
All prizes have been paid out, and I gave the remaining money to a few people that helped with organizing and graphic design.
Would like to hear feedback from people. viewers and players. I know the casting on my channel wasn't great, didn't really plan on doing that. Very happy with how Nox did, I believe he got up to 500+ viewers for the finals which I'm happy with.
I don't know if I will be able to get a replay pack up since I updated most of the bracket with random replays. I will try get some VOD's up but can't guarantee anything.
Lets make the next one bigger and better!
Only thing i can suggest since it seemed to go rather smoothly for all of the matches we played would be seeding for the next one. I'm not sure how many people watched our series between night and lil but it was a ton of fun, some insanely close games. I am kinda salty based on how they reversed it on us, especially the opener of the 3rd game, that we didn't end up anywhere near the prize money haha, it woulda been a nice finals for them to have won like that for sure.
ggs!
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Yeah we were worried that the lower bracket seemed stacked when we were playing as well. Had a number of close series in the early rounds. An easy fix would be setting up some kind of double elimination bracket so a bad early bracket still gives a team a second chance at some of the prize money.
Overall great tournament though especially considering Baz had never done anything like this before. Was a blast to participate!
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On November 03 2014 12:36 Baz_33 wrote:
I don't know if I will be able to get a replay pack up since I updated most of the bracket with random replays. I will try get some VOD's up but can't guarantee anything.
Nooo, I want to see the games!
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For everyone who didnt watch or missed some games here are some epic livecasts and ingame streams of the event:
[Main Tournament Stream / Cast]
"2v2 Tourney - ♞ℕox - Bring your Ally Tournament sponsored by Baz"
http://www.twitch.tv/sarnox/c/5421335
Casted Games:
1) Top 32: Night & Lillekanin vs. Kyo & MvPGalaxy
2) Top 16: Night & Lillekanin vs. Skorpio & Vermillion
3) Top 8: Night & Lillekanin vs. Beastyqt & MorroW
4) Semi-Finals: Night & Lillekanin vs. Elazer & pal
5) Finals: Night & Lillekanin vs. MyuNgSik & Zoun
[Biggest Stream with 1,5k viewers]
"MorroW - 2v2 tour with Beastyqt now!"
http://www.twitch.tv/morrow/b/584537384
Played Games:
1) Top 128: MorroW & Beastyqt vs. TT1 & PureLegacy
2) Top 32: MorroW & Beastyqt vs. Noregret (Amnesia) & RuFF
~ Epic Triple Cast ~ from MorroW (analytic observer), Beasty (high level sarcasm) & Rifkin (lolz)
3) Top 16: Night (aka Hanfy) & Lillekanin vs. Skorpio & Vermillion
Played Game:
4) Top 8: MorroW & Beastyqt vs. Night & Lillekanin
( Brackets: http://binarybeast.com/xHotS1410124 )
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So i just made a Liquipedia entry for this tournament by combining different templates of several former 2v2 tourneys to make it look half decent:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Top_Team_2v2_Cup
If there are any mistakes or notable players with a liquipedia entry missing let me know.
For example i dont know with whom http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/EnDerr or DeathMask played with, otherwise i could've added them. (Need race & 'country / where from' info aswell.)
And keep in mind english is not my native language so feel free to optimize my spelling, grammar or w/e if needed^^
~Btw: Are we actually missing a cool logo for this tournament? It could be included on the TL page. ~
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On November 19 2014 22:15 odem wrote:So i just made a Liquipedia entry for this tournament by combining different templates of several former 2v2 tourneys to make it look half decent: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Top_Team_2v2_CupIf there are any mistakes or notable players with a liquipedia entry missing let me know. For example i dont know with whom http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/EnDerr or DeathMask played with, otherwise i could've added them. (Need race & 'country / where from' info aswell.) And keep in mind english is not my native language so feel free to optimize my spelling, grammar or w/e if needed^^ ~Btw: Are we actually missing a cool logo for this tournament? It could be included on the TL page. ~
Hey, actually it wasnt that EnDerr, it was me EnDeR from Spain, EU
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