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On December 06 2013 23:42 -Celestial- wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2013 23:41 TheDwf wrote:On December 06 2013 23:40 foxmeep wrote:On December 06 2013 23:38 juvenal wrote: Mutas gonna get nerfed pretty soon i guess. Or it could be the WM nerf undone. Not building any turrets doesn't exactly call for a muta nerf :/ Building 4+ Turrets per base isn't exactly healthy for your army count either. With how much he was losing to those mutas though I can't help but feel that 4 turrets per base would have been more cost effective than just saccing stuff.
lol 4 turrets will die in less than 10 seconds to a mutaball...
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On December 06 2013 23:40 Qwerty85 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2013 23:38 Undead1993 wrote:On December 06 2013 23:38 illidanx wrote: maru does not even bother to split anymore because he cant keep up the multitask I feel like he can't keep up because he never has any turrets. Mutas are fast flying units so it is easier to harass with them than defend against them without any static defense. So he keeps too much attention on his base and then fails to control the army. exactly what happened to bomber soulkey game four yesterday, bomber was ahead, way ahead in army supply, then soulkey just kept backstabbing and distracting bomber, and bomber would loose massive chunks of marines to banelings at the beginning of the fight.
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On December 06 2013 23:42 illidanx wrote: veteran kespa > newbie kespa I guess. ah, how i've missed your amazingly diverse posts.
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opterown
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On December 06 2013 23:43 foxmeep wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2013 23:41 TheDwf wrote:On December 06 2013 23:40 foxmeep wrote:On December 06 2013 23:38 juvenal wrote: Mutas gonna get nerfed pretty soon i guess. Or it could be the WM nerf undone. Not building any turrets doesn't exactly call for a muta nerf :/ Building 4+ Turrets per base isn't exactly healthy for your army count either. You don't need 4+. You build 1 or 2 initially and that stops Zerg from raping you in the beginning (Soulkey raped Maru's main which had 0 turrets). That allows you to pressure the Zerg in return and keep his muta count from going out of control cause he has to spend gas on banes. and is too occupied to defend your stream of ranged marine death.
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Rain and Soulkey are good players but damn, I hate PvZ finals. Maybe PvZ with Hero in it, but otherwise, nay.
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On December 06 2013 23:43 Undead1993 wrote: Shut Down hard! beautiful play by soulkey Maru was all over the map, and every time he tried to harass/drop/attack, Soulkey was there and at the same time he was attacking and harassing Maru. This is Soulkey at his best, just perfect Zerg play.
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So what should Maru do differently? I have phoenixes, I really don't know , but he's like the first terran I saw in the last time to die to mutas.
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On December 06 2013 23:43 foxmeep wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2013 23:41 TheDwf wrote:On December 06 2013 23:40 foxmeep wrote:On December 06 2013 23:38 juvenal wrote: Mutas gonna get nerfed pretty soon i guess. Or it could be the WM nerf undone. Not building any turrets doesn't exactly call for a muta nerf :/ Building 4+ Turrets per base isn't exactly healthy for your army count either. You don't need 4+. You build 1 or 2 initially and that stops Zerg from raping you in the beginning (Soulkey raped Maru's main which had 0 turrets). That allows you to pressure the Zerg in return and keep his muta count from going out of control cause he has to spend gas on banes.
I don't think you understand how poor a job of turrets actually do. 1 turret is so easily sniped, you might as well not build any.
The truth is that there is really veyr little you can do in these type of situations as terran. Obv. you can focus on only defending and not trying to attack at all, but that will eventually lose you the game anyway.
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Shame that Maru lost, but Soulkey is a worthy finalist. He better crush Rain now, though.
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On December 06 2013 23:44 opterown wrote: fucking 1-3 RO4 curse Lmao didn't even realize this was 1-3
Maru curse staying strong
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On December 06 2013 23:42 -Celestial- wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2013 23:41 TheDwf wrote:On December 06 2013 23:40 foxmeep wrote:On December 06 2013 23:38 juvenal wrote: Mutas gonna get nerfed pretty soon i guess. Or it could be the WM nerf undone. Not building any turrets doesn't exactly call for a muta nerf :/ Building 4+ Turrets per base isn't exactly healthy for your army count either. With how much he was losing to those mutas though I can't help but feel that 4+ turrets per base would have been more cost effective than just saccing stuff.
absolutely, its not the biggest deal to make 10-15 turrets in the long run
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opterown
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bleh, someone else can do the finals thread
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On December 06 2013 23:44 opterown wrote: fucking 1-3 RO4 curse maru is very good, soulkey is a beast though
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On December 06 2013 23:45 opterown wrote: bleh, someone else can do the finals thread haha :D
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On December 06 2013 23:43 Dark.Carnival wrote: yay Soulkey~! he played really well today, except for the game where he kinda rolled over and died to the hellion/banshee :3
He played well in that game, too. His poor decision making at the third was made up for by his great call to baneling bust while diverting with Mutas. It didn't work, but it was a really nice try.
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maru outplayed like a boss@@@
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soulkey is the perfect player, getting better and better
but there is nothing to deny that terran SUCKED after the patch, period. tanks are still not seen as worth building, especially if you leave them abandoned in the middle of the map (cough bomber) lol.
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