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marcesr
Profile Joined June 2008
Germany1383 Posts
December 06 2013 14:42 GMT
#521
On December 06 2013 23:40 Topin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2013 23:39 deacon.frost wrote:
Why Maru doesn't build turrets and this kind of stuff? Any T to explain it to a dumb Protoss who hates mutalisks more than anything else?

the number of mutas is too high, turrets do shit


Maru lost the game when the first 10 mutas killed the eco at his 3rd base. A few turrets at that point and the game would have gone totally different.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12132 Posts
December 06 2013 14:42 GMT
#522
On December 06 2013 23:40 Topin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2013 23:39 deacon.frost wrote:
Why Maru doesn't build turrets and this kind of stuff? Any T to explain it to a dumb Protoss who hates mutalisks more than anything else?

the number of mutas is too high, turrets do shit

Right now yes, but at the beginning no turrets and he was obliterated by muta harass. I can feel the pain, I lost to it many times
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Kitaen
Profile Joined June 2011
Austria466 Posts
December 06 2013 14:42 GMT
#523
On December 06 2013 23:40 Topin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2013 23:39 deacon.frost wrote:
Why Maru doesn't build turrets and this kind of stuff? Any T to explain it to a dumb Protoss who hates mutalisks more than anything else?

the number of mutas is too high, turrets do shit


no, just build more turrets :-)

he could have afforded 50 turrets for what he lost

its simply dumb to not make turrets to stall the mutas a bit
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 06 2013 14:42 GMT
#524
Poll: Recommend Maru vs. Soulkey Game 4?

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (9)
 
60%

★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year (3)
 
20%

★★★ - Good game (2)
 
13%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
 
7%

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

15 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Maru vs. Soulkey Game 4?

(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what


Poll: Recommend Maru vs. Soulkey Game 5?

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (3)
 
38%

★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year (2)
 
25%

★★★ - Good game (2)
 
25%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
 
13%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
 
0%

8 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Maru vs. Soulkey Game 5?

(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what

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Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
December 06 2013 14:42 GMT
#525
Liquibet points aaaw yeaaa, thanks Soulkey <3
Hello
Swiipii
Profile Joined January 2012
2195 Posts
December 06 2013 14:42 GMT
#526
On December 06 2013 23:40 Topin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2013 23:39 deacon.frost wrote:
Why Maru doesn't build turrets and this kind of stuff? Any T to explain it to a dumb Protoss who hates mutalisks more than anything else?

the number of mutas is too high, turrets do shit

He didn't have turrets when the muta count was low. In fact he had a great window to attack but was forced to back his entire army against 12 mutalisks ... Someone tells MKP to get out of this booth TT
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
December 06 2013 14:42 GMT
#527
On December 06 2013 23:40 foxmeep wrote:
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On December 06 2013 23:38 juvenal wrote:
Mutas gonna get nerfed pretty soon i guess. Or it could be the WM nerf undone.


Not building any turrets doesn't exactly call for a muta nerf :/

then you remember bomber - scarlett
Michael Probu
stratmatt
Profile Joined April 2011
United States913 Posts
December 06 2013 14:42 GMT
#528
mutas have always needed nerfed since the beginning of hots

User was temp banned for this post.
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-06 14:43:23
December 06 2013 14:42 GMT
#529
On December 06 2013 23:41 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2013 23:40 foxmeep wrote:
On December 06 2013 23:38 juvenal wrote:
Mutas gonna get nerfed pretty soon i guess. Or it could be the WM nerf undone.


Not building any turrets doesn't exactly call for a muta nerf :/

Building 4+ Turrets per base isn't exactly healthy for your army count either.


With how much he was losing to those mutas though I can't help but feel that 4+ turrets per base would have been more cost effective than just saccing stuff.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Fuell
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands3111 Posts
December 06 2013 14:42 GMT
#530
WHAT ABOUT CLIDE TOSIS
fOu/Zenith/NEX/WeRRa/SlayerS
illidanx
Profile Joined November 2011
United States973 Posts
December 06 2013 14:42 GMT
#531
veteran kespa > newbie kespa I guess.
Die-hard KeSPA fan
eurTsItniH
Profile Joined January 2012
887 Posts
December 06 2013 14:43 GMT
#532
Soulkey looks scary.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
December 06 2013 14:43 GMT
#533
Soulkey is one of the reasons I played zerg.
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
December 06 2013 14:43 GMT
#534
Shut Down hard! beautiful play by soulkey
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2337 Posts
December 06 2013 14:43 GMT
#535
On December 06 2013 23:41 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2013 23:40 foxmeep wrote:
On December 06 2013 23:38 juvenal wrote:
Mutas gonna get nerfed pretty soon i guess. Or it could be the WM nerf undone.


Not building any turrets doesn't exactly call for a muta nerf :/

Building 4+ Turrets per base isn't exactly healthy for your army count either.


You don't need 4+. You build 1 or 2 initially and that stops Zerg from raping you in the beginning (Soulkey raped Maru's main which had 0 turrets). That allows you to pressure the Zerg in return and keep his muta count from going out of control cause he has to spend gas on banes.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 06 2013 14:43 GMT
#536
gg.

rofl Inca vs Nestea finals.
I had a good night of sleep.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
December 06 2013 14:43 GMT
#537
DRG Genius
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
December 06 2013 14:43 GMT
#538
"Inca vs Nestea..."
"That never happened."
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
December 06 2013 14:43 GMT
#539
yay Soulkey~! he played really well today, except for the game where he kinda rolled over and died to the hellion/banshee :3
@QxGDarkCell ._.
marcesr
Profile Joined June 2008
Germany1383 Posts
December 06 2013 14:43 GMT
#540
On December 06 2013 23:41 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2013 23:39 deacon.frost wrote:
Why Maru doesn't build turrets and this kind of stuff? Any T to explain it to a dumb Protoss who hates mutalisks more than anything else?


Because good Zergs will just look for another angle. And if you build enough turrets to cover all your bases, you miss your 3 base timing and the muta ball gets big enough that turrets don't matter. It is a very fine line.


Turrets vs Mutas are not meant to defend your bases but to buy enough time for your marine to protect your scvs. You need 4-5 turrets in total when Zerg has 10-15 mutas.
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