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Taipoka

Brazil1224 Posts

October 11 2013 21:46 GMT

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On October 12 2013 06:45 Qwerty85 wrote:

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You can post on facebook throught game chat, plus screenshots.

Heartland

Sweden24603 Posts

October 11 2013 21:46 GMT

#2142

I don't understand why we should buy something if we can't enjoy the feeling of shooting

unigolyn

Estonia1272 Posts

October 11 2013 21:46 GMT

#2143

Organizer with a quick apology for technical issues, instead of pretending nothing happened. This is a novel approach for Starcraft 2 events.

Niko_Thien

Germany2671 Posts

October 11 2013 21:46 GMT

#2144

On October 12 2013 06:46 Heartland wrote:
I don't understand why we should buy something if we can't enjoy the feeling of shooting

There is nothing more to add here.

FFW_Rude

France10201 Posts

October 11 2013 21:46 GMT

#2145

On October 12 2013 06:32 felisconcolori wrote:

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Okay.

When setting up a satellite network link, you must first find the beacon signal for the satellite. This allows you to accurately point the dish to send and receive the radio signal. Now, the vast majority of places you are, this will require you to aim the dish at the satellite. This will depend on your location and geography - as an example, when pointing a Hughesnet dish towards one of their satellite constellation, I'm required to aim the dish (from one location) at approximately 121 degrees with a 59 degree azimuth. (Edit - This is not vertical. This is not close to vertical. This is aiming above the horizon, because rarely is a satellite directly overhead.) Then I have to spend about 15 minutes refining this pointing of the dish to get the strongest signal possible. Now, when there are obstructions (for example, aluminum jet wash baffles), this means that I may need to move the location of the dish for a less obstructed line of site, or relocate the dish upwards to avoid obstructions.

Now, I can point the dish over an obstruction, but only if I can still lock the beacon signal from that position.

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Sorry, but I am involved in both HF and satellite based emergency communications as a collateral to my main job.

TL;dr - Yes, line of sight matters, and very large buildings can block you from it. They can be next to you, down the street, or six blocks away, depending on their height. There's a reason why most rooftops in NYC have giant antenna farms.

You see ? that's how you do it. And people don't get angry

That's a good explanation.

ssxsilver

United States4409 Posts

October 11 2013 21:47 GMT

#2146

DRG vs State is up in the meantime guys.

Daralii

United States16991 Posts

October 11 2013 21:47 GMT

#2147

Holy shit, this stream has Starcraft too!?

felisconcolori

United States6168 Posts

October 11 2013 21:47 GMT

#2148

On October 12 2013 06:42 unigolyn wrote:

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On October 12 2013 06:39 felisconcolori wrote:

On October 12 2013 06:34 unigolyn wrote:

On October 12 2013 06:32 felisconcolori wrote:

On October 12 2013 06:26 unigolyn wrote:

On October 12 2013 06:23 felisconcolori wrote:

On October 12 2013 06:20 FFW_Rude wrote:

On October 12 2013 06:17 felisconcolori wrote:

On October 12 2013 06:07 unigolyn wrote:

On October 12 2013 06:05 felisconcolori wrote:
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Alternately, it's the New York Comic Con. Besides IEM, every other booth probably requires bandwidth. Then there's the NYCC Live stream. Then, every person attending probably has at least one device that can connect to wi-fi. And then, it's in New York City, so there's a metric fuckton of other people around, also using the internet.

The pipes might be getting a little clogged. Or maybe someone is doing a massive Keynote livestream. Who knows.

It's almost as if IEM could have foreseen the amount of traffic and provided redundant connections for the players and used a satellite link to send the video somewhere less congested.

Sure. Satellite link - via a cable running out of the venue, down a street, and to wherever they paid 25k to park the satellite uplink truck in a glass and steel canyon that it can't transmit out of.

Certainly, solving these problems in NYC must be simple, cheap, and easily done to make our viewing experience seamless and free.

Can you stop that ? It's annoying.

Stop what? Trying to bring a little reality into the conversation regarding people attempting to ding IEM for problems they know nothing about and lack even the most basic of technical knowledge about?

Oh please. You have no technical knowledge of anything.

Go ahead, regale us with tales of how tall buildings to the left and right of you interfere with satellite communications, which travel horizontally.

Okay.

When setting up a satellite network link, you must first find the beacon signal for the satellite. This allows you to accurately point the dish to send and receive the radio signal. Now, the vast majority of places you are, this will require you to aim the dish at the satellite. This will depend on your location and geography - as an example, when pointing a Hughesnet dish towards one of their satellite constellation, I'm required to aim the dish (from one location) at approximately 121 degrees with a 59 degree azimuth. Then I have to spend about 15 minutes refining this pointing of the dish to get the strongest signal possible. Now, when there are obstructions (for example, aluminum jet wash baffles), this means that I may need to move the location of the dish for a less obstructed line of site, or relocate the dish upwards to avoid obstructions.

Now, I can point the dish over an obstruction, but only if I can still lock the beacon signal from that position.

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Sorry, but I am involved in both HF and satellite based emergency communications as a collateral to my main job.

"this will require you to aim the dish at the satellite."

That's exactly what I said?

"There's a reason why most rooftops in NYC have giant antenna farms."

Yes, so USE them.

No, you said satellites are vertical transmissions. This is not true - unless you are standing in exactly the right spot, most dishes are going to be somewhere between 30-70 degrees, not remotely close to vertically up out of a canyon.

And those antenna farms are already in use. Running a line out may not be feasible due to cost and time.

What I said was you need line of sight to a satellite. Which is a binary condition. I'm not talking about calling in a satellite truck on the same day, I'm saying they could have and should have planned this weeks or months ahead.

My main point was that if you're broadcasting a live event, you shouldn't do it on a connection shared with a gigantic convention. Because eagles.

This may or may not be possible because of permitting, regulatory, or local conditions, or convention rules, etc. They may also be relying on what I assume is a decent convention organizer stating they will have adequate connection, an ISP claiming they will be able to support it, etc. The costs involve may prevent that kind of contingency planning for a free stream.

But now, we will have some kind of explanation maybe. Or not.

And I told you, the eagles have moved on. We need a new stream.