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Taipoka
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1224 Posts
October 11 2013 21:46 GMT
#2141
On October 12 2013 06:45 Qwerty85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 06:43 unigolyn wrote:
On October 12 2013 06:42 Prog455 wrote:
On October 12 2013 06:40 unigolyn wrote:
I've listened to this for five minutes and I still don't understand what he's selling. Some sort of API for tablets?


Some kind of amazing technology that will finaly allow us to play with our friends.


Will it synergize with social media?


Your progress will be automatically tweeted

You can post on facebook throught game chat, plus screenshots.
And in the 7th day, Flash stopped macroing the universe.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24584 Posts
October 11 2013 21:46 GMT
#2142
I don't understand why we should buy something if we can't enjoy the feeling of shooting
unigolyn
Profile Joined August 2013
Estonia1272 Posts
October 11 2013 21:46 GMT
#2143
Organizer with a quick apology for technical issues, instead of pretending nothing happened. This is a novel approach for Starcraft 2 events.
Show me what passes for fury amongst your misbegotten kind.
Niko_Thien
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany2671 Posts
October 11 2013 21:46 GMT
#2144
On October 12 2013 06:46 Heartland wrote:
I don't understand why we should buy something if we can't enjoy the feeling of shooting

There is nothing more to add here.
@Niko_Thien on twitter!
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
October 11 2013 21:46 GMT
#2145
On October 12 2013 06:32 felisconcolori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 06:26 unigolyn wrote:
On October 12 2013 06:23 felisconcolori wrote:
On October 12 2013 06:20 FFW_Rude wrote:
On October 12 2013 06:17 felisconcolori wrote:
On October 12 2013 06:07 unigolyn wrote:
On October 12 2013 06:05 felisconcolori wrote:
On October 12 2013 06:03 tshi wrote:
It's either Time Warner being terrible, or it's someone ddos'ing?


Alternately, it's the New York Comic Con. Besides IEM, every other booth probably requires bandwidth. Then there's the NYCC Live stream. Then, every person attending probably has at least one device that can connect to wi-fi. And then, it's in New York City, so there's a metric fuckton of other people around, also using the internet.

The pipes might be getting a little clogged. Or maybe someone is doing a massive Keynote livestream. Who knows.


It's almost as if IEM could have foreseen the amount of traffic and provided redundant connections for the players and used a satellite link to send the video somewhere less congested.


Sure. Satellite link - via a cable running out of the venue, down a street, and to wherever they paid 25k to park the satellite uplink truck in a glass and steel canyon that it can't transmit out of.

Certainly, solving these problems in NYC must be simple, cheap, and easily done to make our viewing experience seamless and free.


Can you stop that ? It's annoying.


Stop what? Trying to bring a little reality into the conversation regarding people attempting to ding IEM for problems they know nothing about and lack even the most basic of technical knowledge about?


Oh please. You have no technical knowledge of anything.

Go ahead, regale us with tales of how tall buildings to the left and right of you interfere with satellite communications, which travel horizontally.


Okay.

When setting up a satellite network link, you must first find the beacon signal for the satellite. This allows you to accurately point the dish to send and receive the radio signal. Now, the vast majority of places you are, this will require you to aim the dish at the satellite. This will depend on your location and geography - as an example, when pointing a Hughesnet dish towards one of their satellite constellation, I'm required to aim the dish (from one location) at approximately 121 degrees with a 59 degree azimuth. (Edit - This is not vertical. This is not close to vertical. This is aiming above the horizon, because rarely is a satellite directly overhead.) Then I have to spend about 15 minutes refining this pointing of the dish to get the strongest signal possible. Now, when there are obstructions (for example, aluminum jet wash baffles), this means that I may need to move the location of the dish for a less obstructed line of site, or relocate the dish upwards to avoid obstructions.

Now, I can point the dish over an obstruction, but only if I can still lock the beacon signal from that position.

+ Show Spoiler +
Sorry, but I am involved in both HF and satellite based emergency communications as a collateral to my main job.


TL;dr - Yes, line of sight matters, and very large buildings can block you from it. They can be next to you, down the street, or six blocks away, depending on their height. There's a reason why most rooftops in NYC have giant antenna farms.


You see ? that's how you do it. And people don't get angry That's a good explanation.
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ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
October 11 2013 21:47 GMT
#2146
DRG vs State is up in the meantime guys.
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
October 11 2013 21:47 GMT
#2147
Holy shit, this stream has Starcraft too!?
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
October 11 2013 21:47 GMT
#2148
On October 12 2013 06:42 unigolyn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 06:39 felisconcolori wrote:
On October 12 2013 06:34 unigolyn wrote:
On October 12 2013 06:32 felisconcolori wrote:
On October 12 2013 06:26 unigolyn wrote:
On October 12 2013 06:23 felisconcolori wrote:
On October 12 2013 06:20 FFW_Rude wrote:
On October 12 2013 06:17 felisconcolori wrote:
On October 12 2013 06:07 unigolyn wrote:
On October 12 2013 06:05 felisconcolori wrote:
[quote]

Alternately, it's the New York Comic Con. Besides IEM, every other booth probably requires bandwidth. Then there's the NYCC Live stream. Then, every person attending probably has at least one device that can connect to wi-fi. And then, it's in New York City, so there's a metric fuckton of other people around, also using the internet.

The pipes might be getting a little clogged. Or maybe someone is doing a massive Keynote livestream. Who knows.


It's almost as if IEM could have foreseen the amount of traffic and provided redundant connections for the players and used a satellite link to send the video somewhere less congested.


Sure. Satellite link - via a cable running out of the venue, down a street, and to wherever they paid 25k to park the satellite uplink truck in a glass and steel canyon that it can't transmit out of.

Certainly, solving these problems in NYC must be simple, cheap, and easily done to make our viewing experience seamless and free.


Can you stop that ? It's annoying.


Stop what? Trying to bring a little reality into the conversation regarding people attempting to ding IEM for problems they know nothing about and lack even the most basic of technical knowledge about?


Oh please. You have no technical knowledge of anything.

Go ahead, regale us with tales of how tall buildings to the left and right of you interfere with satellite communications, which travel horizontally.


Okay.

When setting up a satellite network link, you must first find the beacon signal for the satellite. This allows you to accurately point the dish to send and receive the radio signal. Now, the vast majority of places you are, this will require you to aim the dish at the satellite. This will depend on your location and geography - as an example, when pointing a Hughesnet dish towards one of their satellite constellation, I'm required to aim the dish (from one location) at approximately 121 degrees with a 59 degree azimuth. Then I have to spend about 15 minutes refining this pointing of the dish to get the strongest signal possible. Now, when there are obstructions (for example, aluminum jet wash baffles), this means that I may need to move the location of the dish for a less obstructed line of site, or relocate the dish upwards to avoid obstructions.

Now, I can point the dish over an obstruction, but only if I can still lock the beacon signal from that position.

+ Show Spoiler +
Sorry, but I am involved in both HF and satellite based emergency communications as a collateral to my main job.


TL;dr - Yes, line of sight matters, and very large buildings can block you from it. They can be next to you, down the street, or six blocks away, depending on their height. There's a reason why most rooftops in NYC have giant antenna farms.


"this will require you to aim the dish at the satellite."

That's exactly what I said?

"There's a reason why most rooftops in NYC have giant antenna farms."

Yes, so USE them.


No, you said satellites are vertical transmissions. This is not true - unless you are standing in exactly the right spot, most dishes are going to be somewhere between 30-70 degrees, not remotely close to vertically up out of a canyon.

And those antenna farms are already in use. Running a line out may not be feasible due to cost and time.


What I said was you need line of sight to a satellite. Which is a binary condition. I'm not talking about calling in a satellite truck on the same day, I'm saying they could have and should have planned this weeks or months ahead.

My main point was that if you're broadcasting a live event, you shouldn't do it on a connection shared with a gigantic convention. Because eagles.


This may or may not be possible because of permitting, regulatory, or local conditions, or convention rules, etc. They may also be relying on what I assume is a decent convention organizer stating they will have adequate connection, an ISP claiming they will be able to support it, etc. The costs involve may prevent that kind of contingency planning for a free stream.

But now, we will have some kind of explanation maybe. Or not.

And I told you, the eagles have moved on. We need a new stream.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8588 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-11 21:47:45
October 11 2013 21:47 GMT
#2149
well now that is fancy, Curious with a hatchery at Flash's natural!
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
October 11 2013 21:47 GMT
#2150
On October 12 2013 06:45 InspiredFrog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 06:44 GolemMadness wrote:
If after this Flash loses to a baneling bust or something... -_-;

Then they'll do a resume from replay where Flash plays with the amazing multi touch table and wrecks face.


I want to see Flash vs Curious playing across from each other on one of those tables.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
October 11 2013 21:47 GMT
#2151
On October 12 2013 06:47 Doublemint wrote:
well now that is fancy, Curious with a hatchery at Flash's natural!

ROOT.Curious
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 11 2013 21:48 GMT
#2152
Curious ballsy motherfucker!
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 11 2013 21:48 GMT
#2153
On October 12 2013 06:46 Heartland wrote:
I don't understand why we should buy something if we can't enjoy the feeling of shooting


I can tell you are already interested in our game.
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 11 2013 21:48 GMT
#2154
On October 12 2013 06:47 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 06:47 Doublemint wrote:
well now that is fancy, Curious with a hatchery at Flash's natural!

ROOT.Curious


The Rootkeeper.
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DusTerr
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
2520 Posts
October 11 2013 21:49 GMT
#2155
oh curious
alypse
Profile Joined May 2010
2771 Posts
October 11 2013 21:49 GMT
#2156
The Hug of Death, yeah.
KT Violet 1988 - 2012
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8588 Posts
October 11 2013 21:49 GMT
#2157
And... how exactly did Curious think this would turn out?
DinoToss
Profile Joined August 2013
Poland507 Posts
October 11 2013 21:49 GMT
#2158
wtf is this game, why he didnt cancel the queen ? ;f
My wrist really started to flare up. My colossi number started to pile up and with the last of my concentration I prepared for a win.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
October 11 2013 21:49 GMT
#2159
On October 12 2013 06:48 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 06:47 Daralii wrote:
On October 12 2013 06:47 Doublemint wrote:
well now that is fancy, Curious with a hatchery at Flash's natural!

ROOT.Curious


The Rootkeeper.

The Keeper of ROOT
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 11 2013 21:49 GMT
#2160
For those wondering, he was using the proxy hatch all in that Hyun used against Polt at MLG.
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