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felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
October 11 2013 21:39 GMT
#2121
On October 12 2013 06:34 unigolyn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 06:32 felisconcolori wrote:
On October 12 2013 06:26 unigolyn wrote:
On October 12 2013 06:23 felisconcolori wrote:
On October 12 2013 06:20 FFW_Rude wrote:
On October 12 2013 06:17 felisconcolori wrote:
On October 12 2013 06:07 unigolyn wrote:
On October 12 2013 06:05 felisconcolori wrote:
On October 12 2013 06:03 tshi wrote:
It's either Time Warner being terrible, or it's someone ddos'ing?


Alternately, it's the New York Comic Con. Besides IEM, every other booth probably requires bandwidth. Then there's the NYCC Live stream. Then, every person attending probably has at least one device that can connect to wi-fi. And then, it's in New York City, so there's a metric fuckton of other people around, also using the internet.

The pipes might be getting a little clogged. Or maybe someone is doing a massive Keynote livestream. Who knows.


It's almost as if IEM could have foreseen the amount of traffic and provided redundant connections for the players and used a satellite link to send the video somewhere less congested.


Sure. Satellite link - via a cable running out of the venue, down a street, and to wherever they paid 25k to park the satellite uplink truck in a glass and steel canyon that it can't transmit out of.

Certainly, solving these problems in NYC must be simple, cheap, and easily done to make our viewing experience seamless and free.


Can you stop that ? It's annoying.


Stop what? Trying to bring a little reality into the conversation regarding people attempting to ding IEM for problems they know nothing about and lack even the most basic of technical knowledge about?


Oh please. You have no technical knowledge of anything.

Go ahead, regale us with tales of how tall buildings to the left and right of you interfere with satellite communications, which travel horizontally.


Okay.

When setting up a satellite network link, you must first find the beacon signal for the satellite. This allows you to accurately point the dish to send and receive the radio signal. Now, the vast majority of places you are, this will require you to aim the dish at the satellite. This will depend on your location and geography - as an example, when pointing a Hughesnet dish towards one of their satellite constellation, I'm required to aim the dish (from one location) at approximately 121 degrees with a 59 degree azimuth. Then I have to spend about 15 minutes refining this pointing of the dish to get the strongest signal possible. Now, when there are obstructions (for example, aluminum jet wash baffles), this means that I may need to move the location of the dish for a less obstructed line of site, or relocate the dish upwards to avoid obstructions.

Now, I can point the dish over an obstruction, but only if I can still lock the beacon signal from that position.

+ Show Spoiler +
Sorry, but I am involved in both HF and satellite based emergency communications as a collateral to my main job.


TL;dr - Yes, line of sight matters, and very large buildings can block you from it. They can be next to you, down the street, or six blocks away, depending on their height. There's a reason why most rooftops in NYC have giant antenna farms.


"this will require you to aim the dish at the satellite."

That's exactly what I said?

"There's a reason why most rooftops in NYC have giant antenna farms."

Yes, so USE them.


No, you said satellites are vertical transmissions. This is not true - unless you are standing in exactly the right spot, most dishes are going to be somewhere between 30-70 degrees, not remotely close to vertically up out of a canyon.

And those antenna farms are already in use. Running a line out may not be feasible due to cost and time.
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TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
October 11 2013 21:39 GMT
#2122
+ Show Spoiler +


You guys can watch this DRG interview in english to pass the time if it doesnt come back soon/drops again
#TheOneTrueDong
Loxley
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Netherlands2480 Posts
October 11 2013 21:40 GMT
#2123
[image loading]

Better start it up guys.
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unigolyn
Profile Joined August 2013
Estonia1272 Posts
October 11 2013 21:40 GMT
#2124
I've listened to this for five minutes and I still don't understand what he's selling. Some sort of API for tablets?
Show me what passes for fury amongst your misbegotten kind.
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
October 11 2013 21:40 GMT
#2125
DRG vs State resuming now
LiquipediaWe will have only each other at the last
InspiredFrog
Profile Joined February 2009
Finland522 Posts
October 11 2013 21:41 GMT
#2126
On October 12 2013 06:40 unigolyn wrote:
I've listened to this for five minutes and I still don't understand what he's selling. Some sort of API for tablets?

http://ideum.com/products/multitouch/
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ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
October 11 2013 21:41 GMT
#2127
Oh god, admin fail.
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-11 21:42:49
October 11 2013 21:41 GMT
#2128
On October 12 2013 06:23 TheDwf wrote:
I don't know what to add, really. Killing 3-4 mutas in such a scenario wouldn't have mattered when something actually much worse (for Zerg) happened after a massive oversight from Curious. Mutas can also suddenly change their direction and you have to keep up with 2, possibly 3 different groups while exposing your Mines or Medivacs to snipes, etc., or they can simply fly along the limits of the map while ignoring Marines, not losing much in the process. There isn't even much risk involved in such a harass because Zerg gets ~900 gas per minut and doesn't need to morph Banelings when Marines/Mines are busy chasing mutas for several minuts.


I'm not saying it's easy. But it's doable by splitting and covering edges, which someone like Flash is definitely capable of doing. You might miss them, but you might also very well get lucky.

And if you happen to lose the mutas too early in that situation, you're in a very bad spot because you suddenly have 0 leverage and are forced to defend with your 3 infestors while terrans is moving his main CCs to new expos.
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Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
October 11 2013 21:41 GMT
#2129
On October 12 2013 06:40 Yhamm wrote:
DRG vs State resuming now

or not? wtf just happened? seems they fucked up the resume
LiquipediaWe will have only each other at the last
Latto
Profile Joined April 2011
235 Posts
October 11 2013 21:41 GMT
#2130
On October 12 2013 06:38 DinoToss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 06:37 Latto wrote:
I wonder how people/players would respond to reducing the size of unit control groups so you can't just bunch an entire army or muta pack on one control group..
Make muta balls much high skill to use.
reduce death ball usage I would think.

I think it would be nothing but pro's compared to the cons of just not being able to have every unit selected at once...
Maybe not BW groups of 12 but maybe 15 or 20 max?

Just put 300 or 400 food so that people don't have to stop after 8-10minute of hardcore macro.

I wonder, is there a specific reason for keeping food supply at 200? Only thing I can think of is that it makes for more possible players to play the game because lack luster computers that wouldn't be able to handle 300 or 400 supply...
if they did this I would also advocate for keeping 200 supply for team games and increasing supply only for 1v1 games..

but still even with increase supply I think there should be a cap on amount of units per control group... it's just too easy right now..
Prog455
Profile Joined April 2012
Denmark970 Posts
October 11 2013 21:42 GMT
#2131
On October 12 2013 06:40 unigolyn wrote:
I've listened to this for five minutes and I still don't understand what he's selling. Some sort of API for tablets?


Some kind of amazing technology that will finaly allow us to play with our friends.
unigolyn
Profile Joined August 2013
Estonia1272 Posts
October 11 2013 21:42 GMT
#2132
On October 12 2013 06:39 felisconcolori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 06:34 unigolyn wrote:
On October 12 2013 06:32 felisconcolori wrote:
On October 12 2013 06:26 unigolyn wrote:
On October 12 2013 06:23 felisconcolori wrote:
On October 12 2013 06:20 FFW_Rude wrote:
On October 12 2013 06:17 felisconcolori wrote:
On October 12 2013 06:07 unigolyn wrote:
On October 12 2013 06:05 felisconcolori wrote:
On October 12 2013 06:03 tshi wrote:
It's either Time Warner being terrible, or it's someone ddos'ing?


Alternately, it's the New York Comic Con. Besides IEM, every other booth probably requires bandwidth. Then there's the NYCC Live stream. Then, every person attending probably has at least one device that can connect to wi-fi. And then, it's in New York City, so there's a metric fuckton of other people around, also using the internet.

The pipes might be getting a little clogged. Or maybe someone is doing a massive Keynote livestream. Who knows.


It's almost as if IEM could have foreseen the amount of traffic and provided redundant connections for the players and used a satellite link to send the video somewhere less congested.


Sure. Satellite link - via a cable running out of the venue, down a street, and to wherever they paid 25k to park the satellite uplink truck in a glass and steel canyon that it can't transmit out of.

Certainly, solving these problems in NYC must be simple, cheap, and easily done to make our viewing experience seamless and free.


Can you stop that ? It's annoying.


Stop what? Trying to bring a little reality into the conversation regarding people attempting to ding IEM for problems they know nothing about and lack even the most basic of technical knowledge about?


Oh please. You have no technical knowledge of anything.

Go ahead, regale us with tales of how tall buildings to the left and right of you interfere with satellite communications, which travel horizontally.


Okay.

When setting up a satellite network link, you must first find the beacon signal for the satellite. This allows you to accurately point the dish to send and receive the radio signal. Now, the vast majority of places you are, this will require you to aim the dish at the satellite. This will depend on your location and geography - as an example, when pointing a Hughesnet dish towards one of their satellite constellation, I'm required to aim the dish (from one location) at approximately 121 degrees with a 59 degree azimuth. Then I have to spend about 15 minutes refining this pointing of the dish to get the strongest signal possible. Now, when there are obstructions (for example, aluminum jet wash baffles), this means that I may need to move the location of the dish for a less obstructed line of site, or relocate the dish upwards to avoid obstructions.

Now, I can point the dish over an obstruction, but only if I can still lock the beacon signal from that position.

+ Show Spoiler +
Sorry, but I am involved in both HF and satellite based emergency communications as a collateral to my main job.


TL;dr - Yes, line of sight matters, and very large buildings can block you from it. They can be next to you, down the street, or six blocks away, depending on their height. There's a reason why most rooftops in NYC have giant antenna farms.


"this will require you to aim the dish at the satellite."

That's exactly what I said?

"There's a reason why most rooftops in NYC have giant antenna farms."

Yes, so USE them.


No, you said satellites are vertical transmissions. This is not true - unless you are standing in exactly the right spot, most dishes are going to be somewhere between 30-70 degrees, not remotely close to vertically up out of a canyon.

And those antenna farms are already in use. Running a line out may not be feasible due to cost and time.


What I said was you need line of sight to a satellite. Which is a binary condition. I'm not talking about calling in a satellite truck on the same day, I'm saying they could have and should have planned this weeks or months ahead.

My main point was that if you're broadcasting a live event, you shouldn't do it on a connection shared with a gigantic convention. Because eagles.
Show me what passes for fury amongst your misbegotten kind.
unigolyn
Profile Joined August 2013
Estonia1272 Posts
October 11 2013 21:43 GMT
#2133
On October 12 2013 06:42 Prog455 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 06:40 unigolyn wrote:
I've listened to this for five minutes and I still don't understand what he's selling. Some sort of API for tablets?


Some kind of amazing technology that will finaly allow us to play with our friends.


Will it synergize with social media?
Show me what passes for fury amongst your misbegotten kind.
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
October 11 2013 21:43 GMT
#2134
On October 12 2013 06:43 unigolyn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 06:42 Prog455 wrote:
On October 12 2013 06:40 unigolyn wrote:
I've listened to this for five minutes and I still don't understand what he's selling. Some sort of API for tablets?


Some kind of amazing technology that will finaly allow us to play with our friends.


Will it synergize with social media?

The question is if it will synergize with Steambox.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Loxley
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Netherlands2480 Posts
October 11 2013 21:43 GMT
#2135
On October 12 2013 06:42 unigolyn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 06:39 felisconcolori wrote:
On October 12 2013 06:34 unigolyn wrote:
On October 12 2013 06:32 felisconcolori wrote:
On October 12 2013 06:26 unigolyn wrote:
On October 12 2013 06:23 felisconcolori wrote:
On October 12 2013 06:20 FFW_Rude wrote:
On October 12 2013 06:17 felisconcolori wrote:
On October 12 2013 06:07 unigolyn wrote:
On October 12 2013 06:05 felisconcolori wrote:
[quote]

Alternately, it's the New York Comic Con. Besides IEM, every other booth probably requires bandwidth. Then there's the NYCC Live stream. Then, every person attending probably has at least one device that can connect to wi-fi. And then, it's in New York City, so there's a metric fuckton of other people around, also using the internet.

The pipes might be getting a little clogged. Or maybe someone is doing a massive Keynote livestream. Who knows.


It's almost as if IEM could have foreseen the amount of traffic and provided redundant connections for the players and used a satellite link to send the video somewhere less congested.


Sure. Satellite link - via a cable running out of the venue, down a street, and to wherever they paid 25k to park the satellite uplink truck in a glass and steel canyon that it can't transmit out of.

Certainly, solving these problems in NYC must be simple, cheap, and easily done to make our viewing experience seamless and free.


Can you stop that ? It's annoying.


Stop what? Trying to bring a little reality into the conversation regarding people attempting to ding IEM for problems they know nothing about and lack even the most basic of technical knowledge about?


Oh please. You have no technical knowledge of anything.

Go ahead, regale us with tales of how tall buildings to the left and right of you interfere with satellite communications, which travel horizontally.


Okay.

When setting up a satellite network link, you must first find the beacon signal for the satellite. This allows you to accurately point the dish to send and receive the radio signal. Now, the vast majority of places you are, this will require you to aim the dish at the satellite. This will depend on your location and geography - as an example, when pointing a Hughesnet dish towards one of their satellite constellation, I'm required to aim the dish (from one location) at approximately 121 degrees with a 59 degree azimuth. Then I have to spend about 15 minutes refining this pointing of the dish to get the strongest signal possible. Now, when there are obstructions (for example, aluminum jet wash baffles), this means that I may need to move the location of the dish for a less obstructed line of site, or relocate the dish upwards to avoid obstructions.

Now, I can point the dish over an obstruction, but only if I can still lock the beacon signal from that position.

+ Show Spoiler +
Sorry, but I am involved in both HF and satellite based emergency communications as a collateral to my main job.


TL;dr - Yes, line of sight matters, and very large buildings can block you from it. They can be next to you, down the street, or six blocks away, depending on their height. There's a reason why most rooftops in NYC have giant antenna farms.


"this will require you to aim the dish at the satellite."

That's exactly what I said?

"There's a reason why most rooftops in NYC have giant antenna farms."

Yes, so USE them.


No, you said satellites are vertical transmissions. This is not true - unless you are standing in exactly the right spot, most dishes are going to be somewhere between 30-70 degrees, not remotely close to vertically up out of a canyon.

And those antenna farms are already in use. Running a line out may not be feasible due to cost and time.


What I said was you need line of sight to a satellite. Which is a binary condition. I'm not talking about calling in a satellite truck on the same day, I'm saying they could have and should have planned this weeks or months ahead.

My main point was that if you're broadcasting a live event, you shouldn't do it on a connection shared with a gigantic convention. Because eagles.


Because eagles. Discussion over now it seems. ./pray
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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 11 2013 21:44 GMT
#2136
Poll: Will DongRaeGu repeat his championship?

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0%

4 total votes

Your vote: Will DongRaeGu repeat his championship?

(Vote): Yes
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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
October 11 2013 21:44 GMT
#2137
If after this Flash loses to a baneling bust or something... -_-;
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Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
October 11 2013 21:45 GMT
#2138
On October 12 2013 06:43 unigolyn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 06:42 Prog455 wrote:
On October 12 2013 06:40 unigolyn wrote:
I've listened to this for five minutes and I still don't understand what he's selling. Some sort of API for tablets?


Some kind of amazing technology that will finaly allow us to play with our friends.


Will it synergize with social media?


Your progress will be automatically tweeted
Prog455
Profile Joined April 2012
Denmark970 Posts
October 11 2013 21:45 GMT
#2139
On October 12 2013 06:43 unigolyn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 06:42 Prog455 wrote:
On October 12 2013 06:40 unigolyn wrote:
I've listened to this for five minutes and I still don't understand what he's selling. Some sort of API for tablets?


Some kind of amazing technology that will finaly allow us to play with our friends.


Will it synergize with social media?


I don't think the technology is quite there yet.
InspiredFrog
Profile Joined February 2009
Finland522 Posts
October 11 2013 21:45 GMT
#2140
On October 12 2013 06:44 GolemMadness wrote:
If after this Flash loses to a baneling bust or something... -_-;

Then they'll do a resume from replay where Flash plays with the amazing multi touch table and wrecks face.
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