EPTisnt it -4 < -3?
regardless, dreamhacks tourny, rules, money, decision, its not like it was made up on the fly, and some anger is understandable due to the miscommunication, but please stop now...
[DreamHack] Summer Day 2 2013 - Page 72
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Naphal
Germany2099 Posts
isnt it -4 < -3? regardless, dreamhacks tourny, rules, money, decision, its not like it was made up on the fly, and some anger is understandable due to the miscommunication, but please stop now... | ||
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_SpiRaL_
Afghanistan1636 Posts
On June 17 2013 01:03 Kyaaaaa wrote: Lame. In the world cup, it's goal differential and then goals scored. Someone should fix these idiotic rules. It is not analagous to goals scored/conceded in football. At all. This stuff comes up all the time in these threads and people do not understand. Number of maps won does not matter whatsoever. 5/4 is clearly worse than 4/3. This is not really arguable. | ||
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Wintex
Norway16838 Posts
On June 17 2013 01:04 Bagi wrote: Since when do we only consider maps won and not maps lost? They both end up with +1 map wins, but please do explain why maps won is the only reasonable metric. I'd love to hear it. Because you handled the other players in the group better. A 2-0 can be close, but most of the time, it is more onesided than even. I guess. | ||
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MooMu
Canada615 Posts
The first decision was a mistake. | ||
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SoulHarvester
Canada151 Posts
On June 17 2013 01:03 KingAlphard wrote: In my opinion, it's your system that is retarded. Why someone with, let's say, 4 wins and 0 losses should be behind someone with 5 wins and 4 losses? In soccer it's normally goal difference and when that's the same it's the amount of goals scored that counts. Just seems natural. But recently in soccer tourneys they started to also let the H2H count over the amount of goals scored... | ||
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Zerg.Zilla
Hungary5029 Posts
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greenelve
Germany1392 Posts
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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Sated
England4983 Posts
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Wintex
Norway16838 Posts
On June 17 2013 01:04 mango_destroyer wrote: How about we all agree we have our own interpretations of what is fair, and that DH rules aren`t that clearly stated. They have made their decision however. Exactly, the problem lies in the rules and we bitch every time but it aint resolved. | ||
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RPR_Tempest
Australia7798 Posts
On June 17 2013 01:05 _SpiRaL_ wrote: It is not analagous to goals scored/conceded in football. At all. This stuff comes up all the time in these threads and people do not understand. Number of maps won does not matter whatsoever. 5/4 is clearly worse than 4/3. This is not really arguable. It's not worse, it's equal. Lucky had one more win but ThorZaIN had one less loss. Even. Hence why they moved onto the next tiebreaker method, head to head. | ||
stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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WigglingSquid
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SebaZ
Italy223 Posts
On June 17 2013 00:59 sc2superfan101 wrote: In my book: more wins should equal advancement regardless of losses. I think the one that won the head to head should win regardless of map scores. So glad that thorzain was able to pull it off  | ||
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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
On June 17 2013 01:05 Wintex wrote: Because you handled the other players in the group better. A 2-0 can be close, but most of the time, it is more onesided than even. I guess. Oh fuck, I bet you would be arguing this if a foreigner dropped out? Seriously the only reason for this argument is because of KR fanboys who can't accept that their guy lost fair and square. | ||
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_SpiRaL_
Afghanistan1636 Posts
On June 17 2013 01:06 RPR_Tempest wrote: It's not worse, it's equal. Lucky had one more win but ThorZaIN had one less loss. Even. Hence why they moved onto the next tiebreaker method, head to head. I understand they used H2H. But even if they didn't: 5/4 is worse than 4/3 as it is a worse % win ratio. It is equal in map score, +1, but not equal in % win ratio. This is a legitimate differential in this scenario. Number of maps won is not. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On June 17 2013 01:06 Sated wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=417317 Just use this. R1CH is a wizard. Yep that's just sick, he is a wizard indeed, but if you want to plan ahead the google doc is your friend. | ||
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ghosthunter
United States414 Posts
Why someone with, let's say, 4 wins and 0 losses should be behind someone with 5 wins and 4 losses? This is probably the best example that makes it apparent why raw game wins shouldn't be used instead of differential. It creates perverse incentives. | ||
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_SpiRaL_
Afghanistan1636 Posts
On June 17 2013 01:08 ghosthunter wrote: This is probably the best example that makes it apparent why raw game wins shouldn't be used instead of differential. It creates perverse incentives. Exactly. What is a better score 2/1 or 101/100. It's obvious right? | ||
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MooMu
Canada615 Posts
On June 17 2013 01:06 RPR_Tempest wrote: It's not worse, it's equal. Lucky had one more win but ThorZaIN had one less loss. Even. Hence why they moved onto the next tiebreaker method, head to head. Absolutely right. It's not just arguable but wrong. | ||
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